[GB] "Hack'd by Geeks" Keyset - Full Contour SA (Shipping Corrections)

[unipsykal]

we are just waiting for the last couple sets to show up, then ill do a form for missing keys in sets

that way i can order them all from sp at the same time

Great!  Shouldn't be many more, I was an international PM order shipped in the last batch

Still waiting...

[rowdy]

we are just waiting for the last couple sets to show up, then ill do a form for missing keys in sets

that way i can order them all from sp at the same time

Great!  Shouldn't be many more, I was an international PM order shipped in the last batch

Still waiting...

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Patience - it will arrive!

One benefit of being lower on the list is that many problems discovered by the early recipients are resolved before yours ships :)

[brimborion]

ok guys, could anyone missing the scoops and with the crooked right shift

please fill out this form

http://goo.gl/forms/xdBFkVjaOT

also, if you fill out the form, could you please quote this post and say you have done it, not for my benefit, but to maximise the chances of people seeing the form

I have done it.

[bluesoul]

ok guys, could anyone missing the scoops and with the crooked right shift

please fill out this form

http://goo.gl/forms/xdBFkVjaOT

also, if you fill out the form, could you please quote this post and say you have done it, not for my benefit, but to maximise the chances of people seeing the form

I have done it

[Elrick]

we are just waiting for the last couple sets to show up, then ill do a form for missing keys in sets

that way i can order them all from sp at the same time

Great!  Shouldn't be many more, I was an international PM order shipped in the last batch

Still waiting...

Show Image

Patience - it will arrive!

One benefit of being lower on the list is that many problems discovered by the early recipients are resolved before yours ships :)

My white box came in - the Mrs said so, when I get back in town shall be eagerly attacking the packaging for these babies.   Now dreaming about which keyboard to impregnate with this key-set.

[BunnyLake]

we are just waiting for the last couple sets to show up, then ill do a form for missing keys in sets

that way i can order them all from sp at the same time

Great!  Shouldn't be many more, I was an international PM order shipped in the last batch

Still waiting...

Show Image

Patience - it will arrive!

One benefit of being lower on the list is that many problems discovered by the early recipients are resolved before yours ships :)

My white box came in - the Mrs said so, when I get back in town shall be eagerly attacking the packaging for these babies.   Now dreaming about which keyboard to impregnate with this key-set.

cant wait to hear your thoughts on them sir

[janvkn]

I received my set two days ago, I'm currently using them on my Filco TKL with mx blacks. Obligatory picture:



My first impressions so far:

* They look great and I love the smooth textured feeling
* The typing feel is excellent too: very heavy and very "thocky". I think that they complement a heavier switch type like mx black very well.
* I'm not 100% convinced about the sculpting, or at least with some particular row choices made on this set. I like that the alphanumeric section is (mostly) curved, but I'm less a fan of the function keys in Row 3 profile. It feels like they are hiding behind the numrow and I would definitely have preferred them in Row 1 as well. I also feel like the bottom row in Row 3 profile clashes with the zxcv row in Row 4 profile, the smooth curve from the 1-q-a-z rows suddenly stops and drops off, like you're coming at the end of a ski ramp.

At the risk of going off on a tangent here, I think my ideal row distribution for an SA set would be as follows:

Function row: R1
Numrow: R1
qwerty row: R2
asdf row: R3
zxcv row: R3
bottom row: R4 (*)

This way you have a completely smooth transition between every row, and as an added bonus, there's no weirdness with the shift keys being the wrong profile.

(*) I'm not sure if an R4 space bar is possible.

[jdcarpe]

I received my set two days ago, I'm currently using them on my Filco TKL with mx blacks. Obligatory picture:

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My first impressions so far:

* They look great and I love the smooth textured feeling
* The typing feel is excellent too: very heavy and very "thocky". I think that they complement a heavier switch type like mx black very well.
* I'm not 100% convinced about the sculpting, or at least with some particular row choices made on this set. I like that the alphanumeric section is (mostly) curved, but I'm less a fan of the function keys in Row 3 profile. It feels like they are hiding behind the numrow and I would definitely have preferred them in Row 1 as well. I also feel like the bottom row in Row 3 profile clashes with the zxcv row in Row 4 profile, the smooth curve from the 1-q-a-z rows suddenly stops and drops off, like you're coming at the end of a ski ramp.

At the risk of going off on a tangent here, I think my ideal row distribution for an SA set would be as follows:

Function row: R1
Numrow: R1
qwerty row: R2
asdf row: R3
zxcv row: R3
bottom row: R4 (*)

This way you have a completely smooth transition between every row, and as an added bonus, there's no weirdness with the shift keys being the wrong profile.

(*) I'm not sure if an R4 space bar is possible.

The reasons I chose those profiles are these:

1. Many people like to use artisan caps on the F-row, which look better with Row 3 profile than Row 1 profile. However, if I had it to do over again, I would probably make this Row 1.
2. The bottom row 1.25-unit mods were supposedly not available in Row 4 profile with semi matte finish. That's why they had to be made in Row 3 profile, so the other bottom row keys were done in Row 3 profile to match. However, that was bad information given from SP. They actually do have the molds for Row 4 semi matte 1.25u keys.

So, had I known this at the time, the profile would have been 1-1-2-3-4-4. Just like SA Retro is going to be.

* Spacebar is always Row 3-ish profile, and 2.25u and 2.75u shifts only exist in Row 3 profile, not Row 4.

[janvkn]

The reasons I chose those profiles are these:

1. Many people like to use artisan caps on the F-row, which look better with Row 3 profile than Row 1 profile. However, if I had it to do over again, I would probably make this Row 1.

Fair enough

2. The bottom row 1.25-unit mods were supposedly not available in Row 4 profile with semi matte finish. That's why they had to be made in Row 3 profile, so the other bottom row keys were done in Row 3 profile to match. However, that was bad information given from SP. They actually do have the molds for Row 4 semi matte 1.25u keys.

So, had I known this at the time, the profile would have been 1-1-2-3-4-4. Just like SA Retro is going to be.

* Spacebar is always Row 3-ish profile, and 2.25u and 2.75u shifts only exist in Row 3 profile, not Row 4.

But why make the zxcv row in R4 profile, when:
1) it clashes with the shifts that are only available in R3 profile
2) it makes a non-smooth transition with a bottom row that's also in R4 profile.

Wouldn't 1-1-2-3-3-4 be better?

[jdcarpe]

The reasons I chose those profiles are these:

1. Many people like to use artisan caps on the F-row, which look better with Row 3 profile than Row 1 profile. However, if I had it to do over again, I would probably make this Row 1.

Fair enough

2. The bottom row 1.25-unit mods were supposedly not available in Row 4 profile with semi matte finish. That's why they had to be made in Row 3 profile, so the other bottom row keys were done in Row 3 profile to match. However, that was bad information given from SP. They actually do have the molds for Row 4 semi matte 1.25u keys.

So, had I known this at the time, the profile would have been 1-1-2-3-4-4. Just like SA Retro is going to be.

* Spacebar is always Row 3-ish profile, and 2.25u and 2.75u shifts only exist in Row 3 profile, not Row 4.

But why make the zxcv row in R4 profile, when:
1) it clashes with the shifts that are only available in R3 profile
2) it makes a non-smooth transition with a bottom row that's also in R4 profile.

Wouldn't 1-1-2-3-3-4 be better?

Because you don't type on the bottom row very often, and it's more important to have the sculpted area be the alphas section. That's why you see X-1-2-3-4-X.


And unfortunately, there isn't much we can do about the shifts, unless we can come up with $8000+ to pay for new molds.

[Kelvin]

...
However, if I had it to do over again, I would probably make this Row 1.
...
They actually do have the molds for Row 4 semi matte 1.25u keys.
...
So, had I known this at the time, the profile would have been 1-1-2-3-4-4. Just like SA Retro is going to be.

So, um, Hack'd by Geeks R2 in 2016?

[jdcarpe]

...
However, if I had it to do over again, I would probably make this Row 1.
...
They actually do have the molds for Row 4 semi matte 1.25u keys.
...
So, had I known this at the time, the profile would have been 1-1-2-3-4-4. Just like SA Retro is going to be.

So, um, Hack'd by Geeks R2 in 2016?

If SP will come up with R4 shift molds, sure.

[janvkn]

By the way, just for the record, I know that I'm nitpicking with the row stuff I'm really over the moon with this set, and I'm really enjoying typing on it

[roostrc0gburn]

yeah, those are horrible issues with the keys.. you should probably just sell me your set 

[suicidal_orange]

And unfortunately, there isn't much we can do about the shifts, unless we can come up with $8000+ to pay for new molds.

How many sets have been made with these "wrong" shifts so far?  Even if just 5 with 100 of each sold it's only $16 for the mold, plus maybe $4 for the actual caps - $20 doesn't much in this hobby, I know I'd pay it.  But then I don't have all 5 sets...

[BunnyLake]

And unfortunately, there isn't much we can do about the shifts, unless we can come up with $8000+ to pay for new molds.

How many sets have been made with these "wrong" shifts so far?  Even if just 5 with 100 of each sold it's only $16 for the mold, plus maybe $4 for the actual caps - $20 doesn't much in this hobby, I know I'd pay it.  But then I don't have all 5 sets...

really its not something we should be paying for

its been something both long requested for and promised by sp, and its a  piece of tooling as a business they will make money from

when privately funding tooling with sp, the people buying it (us) would have 2 options, firstly, you can make it private, so only the person paying for it can use it, unless they grant permission to someone else to use it, or you can make it public

both options suck

nobody wants to hold this as there own, it should be available to everyone, but with it being available to everyone, we shouldnt have to pay for it

[hashbaz]

really its not something we should be paying for

its been something both long requested for and promised by sp, and its a  piece of tooling as a business they will make money from

when privately funding tooling with sp, the people buying it (us) would have 2 options, firstly, you can make it private, so only the person paying for it can use it, unless they grant permission to someone else to use it, or you can make it public

both options suck

nobody wants to hold this as there own, it should be available to everyone, but with it being available to everyone, we shouldnt have to pay for it

Yup. Problem is we keep living with it so SP has no motivation to replace the mold.

[BunnyLake]

really its not something we should be paying for

its been something both long requested for and promised by sp, and its a  piece of tooling as a business they will make money from

when privately funding tooling with sp, the people buying it (us) would have 2 options, firstly, you can make it private, so only the person paying for it can use it, unless they grant permission to someone else to use it, or you can make it public

both options suck

nobody wants to hold this as there own, it should be available to everyone, but with it being available to everyone, we shouldnt have to pay for it

Yup. Problem is we keep living with it so SP has no motivation to replace the mold.

hunger strike

[hashbaz]

really its not something we should be paying for

its been something both long requested for and promised by sp, and its a  piece of tooling as a business they will make money from

when privately funding tooling with sp, the people buying it (us) would have 2 options, firstly, you can make it private, so only the person paying for it can use it, unless they grant permission to someone else to use it, or you can make it public

both options suck

nobody wants to hold this as there own, it should be available to everyone, but with it being available to everyone, we shouldnt have to pay for it

Yup. Problem is we keep living with it so SP has no motivation to replace the mold.

hunger strike

#alignmentmatters

Come on guys, let's get it trending

[BunnyLake]

really its not something we should be paying for

its been something both long requested for and promised by sp, and its a  piece of tooling as a business they will make money from

when privately funding tooling with sp, the people buying it (us) would have 2 options, firstly, you can make it private, so only the person paying for it can use it, unless they grant permission to someone else to use it, or you can make it public

both options suck

nobody wants to hold this as there own, it should be available to everyone, but with it being available to everyone, we shouldnt have to pay for it

Yup. Problem is we keep living with it so SP has no motivation to replace the mold.

hunger strike

#alignmentmatters

Come on guys, let's get it trending

#godhatesmismatchingprofilesandthatpushingdaisieswascancelledtooearly

[strict]

#godhatesmismatchingprofilesandthatpushingdaisieswascancelledtooearly

pushing daises was an awesome show   

[njbair]

really its not something we should be paying for

its been something both long requested for and promised by sp, and its a  piece of tooling as a business they will make money from

when privately funding tooling with sp, the people buying it (us) would have 2 options, firstly, you can make it private, so only the person paying for it can use it, unless they grant permission to someone else to use it, or you can make it public

both options suck

nobody wants to hold this as there own, it should be available to everyone, but with it being available to everyone, we shouldnt have to pay for it

Yup. Problem is we keep living with it so SP has no motivation to replace the mold.

hunger strike

I don't mind stealin' bread...

[rowdy]

really its not something we should be paying for

its been something both long requested for and promised by sp, and its a  piece of tooling as a business they will make money from

when privately funding tooling with sp, the people buying it (us) would have 2 options, firstly, you can make it private, so only the person paying for it can use it, unless they grant permission to someone else to use it, or you can make it public

both options suck

nobody wants to hold this as there own, it should be available to everyone, but with it being available to everyone, we shouldnt have to pay for it

Yup. Problem is we keep living with it so SP has no motivation to replace the mold.

hunger strike

I don't mind stealin' bread...

Then you'll get your wrists slapped and get sent to penal colony in Australia, and have to wait an extra 3 weeks or so for your keycaps!

[Elrick]

really its not something we should be paying for

its been something both long requested for and promised by sp, and its a  piece of tooling as a business they will make money from

when privately funding tooling with sp, the people buying it (us) would have 2 options, firstly, you can make it private, so only the person paying for it can use it, unless they grant permission to someone else to use it, or you can make it public

both options suck

nobody wants to hold this as there own, it should be available to everyone, but with it being available to everyone, we shouldnt have to pay for it

Yup. Problem is we keep living with it so SP has no motivation to replace the mold.

hunger strike

I don't mind stealin' bread...

Then you'll get your wrists slapped and get sent to penal colony in Australia, and have to wait an extra 3 weeks or so for your keycaps!

Whilst you're waiting for your key-caps to arrive here, prepare to be repeatedly sodomized by your fellow inmates and guards.

Australia is the home of eternal butt-love, so be aware of that when you decide to commit crimes in other Western Countries  .

[suicidal_orange]

ok guys, could anyone missing the scoops and with the crooked right shift

please fill out this form

http://goo.gl/forms/xdBFkVjaOT

also, if you fill out the form, could you please quote this post and say you have done it, not for my benefit, but to maximise the chances of people seeing the form

'Cos it's not on this page yet

What about if SP knew there were sales to be had - have enough sets been done to do an IC for row 4 shifts in all previously run colourways and get a significant order?

[KHAANNN]

ok guys, could anyone missing the scoops and with the crooked right shift

please fill out this form

http://goo.gl/forms/xdBFkVjaOT

also, if you fill out the form, could you please quote this post and say you have done it, not for my benefit, but to maximise the chances of people seeing the form

I also filled the form

I'm going to combine a package to be exported soon, it would be great to receive the missing keys soon, so that they would be in this consolidated package

[SL89]

 

[BunnyLake]

hey sir if you are waiting for cody and a pm, he is working on something right now and will be making a post about it shortly

[SL89]

Thank you Bunny, I figured I'd hear this weekend. I was told I got a package and thought it was the caps, but it was a false alarm and ended up being a different package lol.

[Ngt]

Thank you Bunny, I figured I'd hear this weekend. I was told I got a package and thought it was the caps, but it was a false alarm and ended up being a different package lol.

Ohh I know that as well. One of my flatmate rang on the intercom and talked as if he was the delivery guy. I thought it was my package until I saw him coming at the door. That bastard haha.

[SL89]

Ooh that's a good one.

On an unrelated note, is anyone else having issues with Tapatalk?

[Ngt]

Ooh that's a good one.

On an unrelated note, is anyone else having issues with Tapatalk?

on what matter?

[SL89]

General connectivity and input, it either doesn't take the input or dupes it.

[Ngt]

General connectivity and input, it either doesn't take the input or dupes it.

Nope sorry. If you want more people to answer your question, you should create a dedicated topic for it as I don't think this one is the most suited for it.

[SL89]

I agree, sorry for running off topic lol

[Ngt]

I agree, sorry for running off topic lol

No problem.

[shimmy1996]

ok guys, could anyone missing the scoops and with the crooked right shift

please fill out this form

http://goo.gl/forms/xdBFkVjaOT

also, if you fill out the form, could you please quote this post and say you have done it, not for my benefit, but to maximise the chances of people seeing the form

'Cos it's not on this page yet

What about if SP knew there were sales to be had - have enough sets been done to do an IC for row 4 shifts in all previously run colourways and get a significant order?

Filled out the form! OHHH ROW 4 SHIFT 

[awhitedev]

ok guys, could anyone missing the scoops and with the crooked right shift

please fill out this form

http://goo.gl/forms/xdBFkVjaOT

also, if you fill out the form, could you please quote this post and say you have done it, not for my benefit, but to maximise the chances of people seeing the form

'Cos it's not on this page yet

What about if SP knew there were sales to be had - have enough sets been done to do an IC for row 4 shifts in all previously run colourways and get a significant order?

Filled out the form! OHHH ROW 4 SHIFT 

Can there be a separate GB for Row 4 shifts? I think there'd be enough interest

[jdcarpe]

ok guys, could anyone missing the scoops and with the crooked right shift

please fill out this form

http://goo.gl/forms/xdBFkVjaOT

also, if you fill out the form, could you please quote this post and say you have done it, not for my benefit, but to maximise the chances of people seeing the form

'Cos it's not on this page yet

What about if SP knew there were sales to be had - have enough sets been done to do an IC for row 4 shifts in all previously run colourways and get a significant order?

Filled out the form! OHHH ROW 4 SHIFT 

Can there be a separate GB for Row 4 shifts? I think there'd be enough interest

Sure, we could do that. Two shifts at $4000 per mold is $8000. About 100 orders for a set of shifts, let's say $5 per pair.

Your total for an order of two shift keys is $85 plus shipping. Everyone good with that?

Sorry, awhitedev. I don't mean to be sarcastic toward you at all. It's simply a situation we can't really comprehend.

[Ngt]

ok guys, could anyone missing the scoops and with the crooked right shift

please fill out this form

http://goo.gl/forms/xdBFkVjaOT

also, if you fill out the form, could you please quote this post and say you have done it, not for my benefit, but to maximise the chances of people seeing the form

'Cos it's not on this page yet

What about if SP knew there were sales to be had - have enough sets been done to do an IC for row 4 shifts in all previously run colourways and get a significant order?

Filled out the form! OHHH ROW 4 SHIFT 

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Can there be a separate GB for Row 4 shifts? I think there'd be enough interest :)

Sure, we could do that. Two shifts at $4000 per mold is $8000. About 100 orders for a set of shifts, let's say $5 per pair.

Your total for an order of two shift keys is $85 plus shipping. Everyone good with that?

Sorry, awhitedev. I don't mean to be sarcastic toward you at all. It's simply a situation we can't really comprehend.

Especially since I feel that the difference between the row keys and the shift is unnoticeable in terms of feel and in terms of aesthetic noticeable only if you at the keyboard profile and focus on that part. I don't think it is worth the investment IMHO.

[Hitcha]

ok guys, could anyone missing the scoops and with the crooked right shift

please fill out this form

http://goo.gl/forms/xdBFkVjaOT

also, if you fill out the form, could you please quote this post and say you have done it, not for my benefit, but to maximise the chances of people seeing the form

Form filled out, and ready to pay for shipping to get those Hack'd scoops.

[Ngt]

yeah I'm looking forward to them as well.

[codyeatworld]

I got the bubble mailers Saturday.

Scoops/Shift will be going out soon to everyone who filed out the google doc or used the new support form.

If you have any missing keys now is a great time to let us know too!

[rowdy]

I got the bubble mailers Saturday.

Scoops/Shift will be going out soon to everyone who filed out the google doc or used the new support form.

If you have any missing keys now is a great time to let us know too!

I have not received my set yet, and thus have no idea if anything is missing, or if I need scopps, replacement right shift or anything!

[SL89]

ok guys, could anyone missing the scoops and with the crooked right shift

please fill out this form

http://goo.gl/forms/xdBFkVjaOT

also, if you fill out the form, could you please quote this post and say you have done it, not for my benefit, but to maximise the chances of people seeing the form

'Cos it's not on this page yet

What about if SP knew there were sales to be had - have enough sets been done to do an IC for row 4 shifts in all previously run colourways and get a significant order?

Filled out the form! OHHH ROW 4 SHIFT 

Can there be a separate GB for Row 4 shifts? I think there'd be enough interest

Sure, we could do that. Two shifts at $4000 per mold is $8000. About 100 orders for a set of shifts, let's say $5 per pair.

Your total for an order of two shift keys is $85 plus shipping. Everyone good with that?

Sorry, awhitedev. I don't mean to be sarcastic toward you at all. It's simply a situation we can't really comprehend.

Surely they know the demand is there for them right? Maybe they will invest in the tooling themselves at some point. Though if they have not already then I guess that speaks volumes. This same issue comes up with every SA groupbuy it seems.

[blud]

Not sure if this is the proper place to ask this but I had ordered an OG  shotty cap along with the hackd buy and have received my keyset some time ago already, in the packaging was a note saying that not all items were shipped (assuming they meant the cap) and would be sent out when available but on the website it shows as both items shipped.
My question is will I be waiting much longer for the cap and am I going to be responsible for shipping costs again?

[BunnyLake]

Not sure if this is the proper place to ask this but I had ordered an OG  shotty cap along with the hackd buy and have received my keyset some time ago already, in the packaging was a note saying that not all items were shipped (assuming they meant the cap) and would be sent out when available but on the website it shows as both items shipped.
My question is will I be waiting much longer for the cap and am I going to be responsible for shipping costs again?

sorry about this, some of the store items were on hand with me instead of cody, rather than add waiting time to your order whilst i shipped stuff to cody, he sent orders along with that note, i had totally missed this one

if you pm me your order number ill get that shipped out to you at my own expense this week good sir

[deci]

ok guys, could anyone missing the scoops and with the crooked right shift

please fill out this form

http://goo.gl/forms/xdBFkVjaOT

also, if you fill out the form, could you please quote this post and say you have done it, not for my benefit, but to maximise the chances of people seeing the form

Ok filled out.
And yes, good idea having people quote this as that's how I saw it as well...

[swimmingbird]

Any idea on when the ctrlalt support tickets will be responded to? Been trying to track down my order for over 2 weeks now

[BunnyLake]

Any idea on when the ctrlalt support tickets will be responded to? Been trying to track down my order for over 2 weeks now

im sorry to hear that, i was totally unaware, im in bed now, but if you pm me your order details ill get that chased up in the morning, on the point of tickets, i know cody is at the office shipping and working through tickets now