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Offline lanyusea

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #750 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 21:28:37 »
Just a heads up, if you see a white sticker with an arrow on your PCB it probably means you need to solder the part itís pointing at. One of my resistors was only soldered on one half and so the switch wasnít working. I soldered the other half and all is well again! Donít know if this just wasnít caught or if I was expected to fix it myself.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #751 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:44:03 »
I bought a leaf on MM and I have two problems:


1: I was trying to flash my PCB and accidentally erased it...

is this what needs to be jumped to reset it?

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2: Is anyone else's Poly warped/bent? My PCB and Poly plate build (I put it together) and the top case are slightly warped.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #752 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:48:12 »
I bought a leaf on MM and I have two problems:


1: I was trying to flash my PCB and accidentally erased it...

is this what needs to be jumped to reset it?

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2: Is anyone else's Poly warped/bent? My PCB and Poly plate build (I put it together) and the top case are slightly warped.

poly warping is a longstanding issue, over half of poly 910 were rejected because of it
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #753 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:49:59 »
I bought a leaf on MM and I have two problems:


1: I was trying to flash my PCB and accidentally erased it...

is this what needs to be jumped to reset it?

(Attachment Link)

2: Is anyone else's Poly warped/bent? My PCB and Poly plate build (I put it together) and the top case are slightly warped.

poly warping is a longstanding issue, over half of poly 910 were rejected because of it

Ok, thanks for the info. It is not horrible, but it is there. Primarily the PCB/Plate

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #754 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 00:24:15 »
Is there a way to build the firmware through the QMK online configurator so I don't have to set up a build environment on my PC?
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[GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #755 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 00:40:16 »
Is there a way to build the firmware through the QMK online configurator so I don't have to set up a build environment on my PC?
No... itís not merged into QMK yet iirc. Tho Merlin did mention that it might be soon.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #756 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 00:45:45 »
I got mine today.  It is a hot-swappable pcb with a HHKB plate.
I was trying to quickly test the pcb on a Mac but the following two keys weren't giving me anything:

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I'm guessing these are function keys, but can someone confirm?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #757 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 01:13:31 »
I got mine today.  It is a hot-swappable pcb with a HHKB plate.
I was trying to quickly test the pcb on a Mac but the following two keys weren't giving me anything:

(Attachment Link)

I'm guessing these are function keys, but can someone confirm?
Same for me
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #758 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 01:15:51 »
I got mine today.  It is a hot-swappable pcb with a HHKB plate.
I was trying to quickly test the pcb on a Mac but the following two keys weren't giving me anything:

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I'm guessing these are function keys, but can someone confirm?
Same for me
You'll need to program the PCB using QMK to give it any sort of functionality

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #759 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 02:49:28 »
I got mine today.  It is a hot-swappable pcb with a HHKB plate.
I was trying to quickly test the pcb on a Mac but the following two keys weren't giving me anything:

(Attachment Link)

I'm guessing these are function keys, but can someone confirm?

Yup, mine was like this as well. The "sys" key is your Fn and the blank one hasn't been programmed in by default i think. Once I had it programmed in it worked fine. Gave me one heck of a scare though.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #760 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 11:41:50 »
There is a PC plate and weight on mech market right now 👍🏻

Iím still looking for an alu or brass hhkb plate and possibly a second PCB

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #761 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 12:05:35 »
There is a PC plate and weight on mech market right now 👍🏻

Iím still looking for an alu or brass hhkb plate and possibly a second PCB

What plate do you have?
Can get my alu for a pc.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #762 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 12:38:21 »
There is a PC plate and weight on mech market right now 👍🏻

Iím still looking for an alu or brass hhkb plate and possibly a second PCB

What plate do you have?
Can get my alu for a pc.

I currently have a PC. I am thinking about picking up that PC to trade for an alu

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #763 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 13:19:18 »
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #764 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 15:55:51 »
My PCB seems to be a bit warped as well, has been giving me minor issues with the space bar stabilizer.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #765 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 16:00:03 »
My PCB seems to be a bit warped as well, has been giving me minor issues with the space bar stabilizer.

I got mine a bit straighter by tightening the middle screws first. I have not gotten to type on it much but my SB seemed to be ok.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #766 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 18:17:06 »
My PCB seems to be a bit warped as well, has been giving me minor issues with the space bar stabilizer.

I got mine a bit straighter by tightening the middle screws first. I have not gotten to type on it much but my SB seemed to be ok.

Okay, thanks for the idea!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #767 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 18:47:21 »
Built my polycarbonate leaf 60 today with lubed and stickered linjars, brass plate, and GMK 9009.

Overall it's a really nice board and I'm satisfied with all the components.
This is my first linear build I'm not sure if I can really notice any distinction major distinction from the gasket mount.
The brass plate sounds very nice I'll upload a typing test at some point.

The bottom of the board does have some machine or scratching marks. I don't really mind that much.




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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #768 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 18:57:43 »
Built my polycarbonate leaf 60 today with lubed and stickered linjars, brass plate, and GMK 9009.

Overall it's a really nice board and I'm satisfied with all the components.
This is my first linear build I'm not sure if I can really notice any distinction major distinction from the gasket mount.
The brass plate sounds very nice I'll upload a typing test at some point.

The bottom of the board does have some machine or scratching marks. I don't really mind that much.

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Where's your cable from? Whole build looking awesome  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #769 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 19:06:49 »
Built my polycarbonate leaf 60 today with lubed and stickered linjars, brass plate, and GMK 9009.

Overall it's a really nice board and I'm satisfied with all the components.
This is my first linear build I'm not sure if I can really notice any distinction major distinction from the gasket mount.
The brass plate sounds very nice I'll upload a typing test at some point.

The bottom of the board does have some machine or scratching marks. I don't really mind that much.

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Where's your cable from? Whole build looking awesome  :thumb:
Thanks! Cable I had someone make for me. Here's a guide:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8v52j4/guide_how_to_make_custom_cables_with_fancy/
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #770 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 19:08:42 »
I am getting a Leaf60 with the WKL hot swap PCB but was interested in a full layout. I also have the PVD Brass and PC plate for that layout that I would like to trade as well. Would anyone be down for a straight trade? Thanks!
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #771 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 19:44:02 »
Built my polycarbonate leaf 60 today with lubed and stickered linjars, brass plate, and GMK 9009.

Overall it's a really nice board and I'm satisfied with all the components.
This is my first linear build I'm not sure if I can really notice any distinction major distinction from the gasket mount.
The brass plate sounds very nice I'll upload a typing test at some point.

The bottom of the board does have some machine or scratching marks. I don't really mind that much.

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I was just talking to someone about that. It is my first gasket mount and I can not really tell a difference. I have the PC plate and there is little to no flex.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #772 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 21:45:07 »
Lots of folks talk about gasket mounting normally helping with sound, more than anything, with harder gasket material. Two things I can say 1)sound is very nice (in a different way than Iím used to for brass) 2) for being sandwich mount, it doesnít feel ďlifelessĒ (like sandwich normally feels like) to me.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #773 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 22:07:05 »
Just finished building mine! Here is my Leaf 60 in E-Black with a black PC plate. Switches are Gateron Linjars, lubed with Tribosys 3204, and stabs are Zeal's (also lubed). Will probably take better pics at some point, but it was an interesting process (finally learned QMK and made the layout to be like an actual HHKB's).

Some quick snaps below (sry4dust and poor lighting):






Some of my experiences:
  • Had to cut the strip where the usb inserts as other users have mentioned
  • Found it easier to push the screws through the holes before putting the top cover on, made it easier to screw them on
  • Seems like the board catches a lot of fingerprints unfortunately, probably my least favorite part about it

Offline etong415

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #774 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 22:08:29 »
Just finished building mine! Here is my Leaf 60 in E-Black with a black PC plate. Switches are Gateron Linjars, lubed with Tribosys 3204, and stabs are Zeal's (also lubed). Will probably take better pics at some point, but it was an interesting process (finally learned QMK and made the layout to be like an actual HHKB's).

Some quick snaps below (sry4dust and poor lighting):

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Would love to hear some typing sounds of the Linjars, don't seem to see a lot of them around

Some of my experiences:
  • Had to cut the strip where the usb inserts as other users have mentioned
  • Found it easier to push the screws through the holes before putting the top cover on, made it easier to screw them on
  • Seems like the board catches a lot of fingerprints unfortunately, probably my least favorite part about it

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #775 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 22:13:27 »
I think your response was in the quotes, but so far my experience with these Linjars are decent. They do sound and feel nice! Not as smooth as Tealios V2, and maybe it's just the plate material, but I think I prefer the sound of Tealios. I guess I can swap some Tealios in and compare sometime. Honestly, I think I'd probably enjoy them better had I gotten a brass plate as that's my favorite plate material, and I really should've since I got a hotswap PCB.

Will there be any extra plates (brass, specifically) available in the future? I know there was a post about PCB on IC.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #776 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 22:14:24 »
Just finished building mine! Here is my Leaf 60 in E-Black with a black PC plate. Switches are Gateron Linjars, lubed with Tribosys 3204, and stabs are Zeal's (also lubed). Will probably take better pics at some point, but it was an interesting process (finally learned QMK and made the layout to be like an actual HHKB's).

Some quick snaps below (sry4dust and poor lighting):

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Some of my experiences:
  • Had to cut the strip where the usb inserts as other users have mentioned
  • Found it easier to push the screws through the holes before putting the top cover on, made it easier to screw them on
  • Seems like the board catches a lot of fingerprints unfortunately, probably my least favorite part about it

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #777 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 23:15:34 »
Built my polycarbonate leaf 60 today with lubed and stickered linjars, brass plate, and GMK 9009.

Overall it's a really nice board and I'm satisfied with all the components.
This is my first linear build I'm not sure if I can really notice any distinction major distinction from the gasket mount.
The brass plate sounds very nice I'll upload a typing test at some point.

The bottom of the board does have some machine or scratching marks. I don't really mind that much.

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I was just talking to someone about that. It is my first gasket mount and I can not really tell a difference. I have the PC plate and there is little to no flex.
Oh interesting. I was supposed to get an MX PC plate but I got an extra Alps PC plate instead. I was hoping to see the difference between PC and brass.

If you press down on the alpha keys with some pressure does the plate flex at all?
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #778 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 23:32:05 »
Built yesterday w tangies. Really enjoying it so far.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #779 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 23:32:36 »
Built yesterday w tangies. Really enjoying it so far.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #780 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 23:47:37 »
Built yesterday w tangies. Really enjoying it so far.
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that color is very nice
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #781 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 23:52:57 »
Murdered out


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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #782 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 23:56:49 »
Murdered out

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white legends :angry:

black blanks would have made it but it's still p sick regardless
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #783 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 07:35:43 »
Got mine today and built it up, really loving it!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #784 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 08:28:47 »
Murdered out

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Looking good. I was beginning to think I was the only person who ordered a non-blocker case.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #785 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 10:39:50 »
Murdered out

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Looking good. I was beginning to think I was the only person who ordered a non-blocker case.

I ordered one as well. but dropped my spot haha. Wanted wkl
              

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #786 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 11:19:23 »
Hey all, QMK Configurator now has the Leaf60 universal and hotswap pcbs!

https://config.qmk.fm/#/foxlab/leaf60/universal/LAYOUT_60_hhkb

I would appreciate very much if you guys tested the other layouts such as the 60_ansi and the 60_hhkb as I didn't have a PCB to test things out on! Thank you!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #787 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 11:20:22 »
Hey all, QMK Configurator now has the Leaf60 universal and hotswap pcbs!

https://config.qmk.fm/#/foxlab/leaf60/universal/LAYOUT_60_hhkb

I would appreciate very much if you guys tested the other layouts such as the 60_ansi and the 60_hhkb as I didn't have a PCB to test things out on! Thank you!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #788 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 11:22:36 »
Hey all, QMK Configurator now has the Leaf60 universal and hotswap pcbs!

https://config.qmk.fm/#/foxlab/leaf60/universal/LAYOUT_60_hhkb

I would appreciate very much if you guys tested the other layouts such as the 60_ansi and the 60_hhkb as I didn't have a PCB to test things out on! Thank you!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #789 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 11:23:19 »
Hey all, QMK Configurator now has the Leaf60 universal and hotswap pcbs!

https://config.qmk.fm/#/foxlab/leaf60/universal/LAYOUT_60_hhkb

I would appreciate very much if you guys tested the other layouts such as the 60_ansi and the 60_hhkb as I didn't have a PCB to test things out on! Thank you!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #791 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 18:37:23 »
Murdered out

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #792 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 19:09:00 »
Are the plate files going to be / have they been released on this?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #793 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 22:12:56 »
The QMK stuff is fixed now. I was able to edit and flash my leaf with the Configurator and Toolbox

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #794 on: Fri, 17 May 2019, 09:55:25 »
The QMK stuff is fixed now. I was able to edit and flash my leaf with the Configurator and Toolbox

Yep I posted just a few messages before yours.  :)

I didn't have a PCB to test with so I would appreciate if you or anyone else could test the hhkb layout in particular if you have that one.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #795 on: Fri, 17 May 2019, 10:07:44 »
The QMK stuff is fixed now. I was able to edit and flash my leaf with the Configurator and Toolbox

Yep I posted just a few messages before yours.  :)

I didn't have a PCB to test with so I would appreciate if you or anyone else could test the hhkb layout in particular if you have that one.

I have mine in hhkb with a few changes. Itís working great, thanks!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #796 on: Fri, 17 May 2019, 14:11:46 »
Finally got around to unboxing this thing. Mine came with a few blemishes I'll need to contact Senter about, but overall, it's a really nice board. The brass plate and weight really make this feel super solid.









Does anyone else have these weird circle marks on the leaf?


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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #797 on: Fri, 17 May 2019, 14:58:26 »
Kinda sad I didn't get in on this.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #798 on: Fri, 17 May 2019, 17:00:43 »
The QMK stuff is fixed now. I was able to edit and flash my leaf with the Configurator and Toolbox

Yep I posted just a few messages before yours.  :)

I didn't have a PCB to test with so I would appreciate if you or anyone else could test the hhkb layout in particular if you have that one.

I have mine in hhkb with a few changes. Itís working great, thanks!

I tried the HHKB layout and the 2 keys to the right of the spacebar are not doing what they are suppose to do, the one next to the space bar does what the second one is suppose to do and the furthest one does nothing. Is it just me? https://photos.app.goo.gl/t5Fz79W49gAamwAh7

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
« Reply #799 on: Fri, 17 May 2019, 17:12:44 »
The QMK stuff is fixed now. I was able to edit and flash my leaf with the Configurator and Toolbox

Yep I posted just a few messages before yours.  :)

I didn't have a PCB to test with so I would appreciate if you or anyone else could test the hhkb layout in particular if you have that one.

I have mine in hhkb with a few changes. Itís working great, thanks!

I tried the HHKB layout and the 2 keys to the right of the spacebar are not doing what they are suppose to do, the one next to the space bar does what the second one is suppose to do and the furthest one does nothing. Is it just me? https://photos.app.goo.gl/t5Fz79W49gAamwAh7

Yeah, jus tried in the Layout_ALL and the keys are one off on the bottom row on the right side. Merlin said he will be looking into it!