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So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« on: Fri, 07 September 2012, 19:27:55 »
UPDATE:

So a Das Keyboard representative stepped up and clarify that it's NOT iOne.  We still don't know which the new OEM is.

But based on member reviews, it appears that the quality has indeed went DOWN compare to their Costar counterpart.


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So I've heard rumour flying around that Das switched manufacture, so I e-mailed Das and got this reply:
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Thanks for your interest in Das Keyboard. I can't disclose the names of our vendors, but I can say that the new media keyboards are made in China. The Ultimate and Professional for Mac keyboards are made in Taiwan.

If you have any other questions please let me know.

Kind regards,

Das Keyboard Support


Made in China eh, I wonder if they joined iOne :confused:

Oh I heard another rumour that Das Keyboard Professional S and Professional S Silent is discontinued.  So there will only be Media Edition from here on.  I guess the Mac Edition is still ok, otherwise this sounds like the end of Das Keyboard.  At least for the high end users like us anyway...  Sighhhhh I was hoping they'd jump on the backlit Costar bandwagon, I guess I'll to wait for Filco

P.S:  Good thing I have the original Costar made one ;D
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 07 September 2012, 19:52:04 »
No body believed me
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 07 September 2012, 20:07:31 »
LOL I saw your post on overclock.net that's why I e-mailed them to confirm.  I believed you but I just like to see hard evidence lolllllll :P

Sorry this is off topic but it's hard to catch you so I figure I'll ask you here.  Is there a release date and pricing on CM Storm Recon yet?  I made a post on the mice forum but it seems like you don't hang in the mice forum much :(
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 07 September 2012, 20:15:40 »
it will launch this month: price point: $39.99
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 07 September 2012, 20:30:37 »
I'm guessing it's probably because mainland prices are significantly lower than even taiwan prices.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 00:08:30 »
Yeah I think it all comes down to production cost.  Because the general public won't know the difference between a Razer Blackwidow and a Filco.  But I think it will lose out big on sales for the high end users.

It's sad because back then I'd recommend Das right away because it's similar to Filco quality yet a lot cheaper (with student discount) also look very stylish.  But now I'd not recommend because it could have potential quality control issue.  That and the media edition has 4 keys on bottom left corner and a shorter space bar, in general I don't like unconventional layout.  I guess only time will tell.

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it will launch this month: price point: $39.99


omg I'm so buying one thanks Carter ! :eek:
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 05:34:22 »
Most Apple products are made in mainland China, aren't they? I don't think I've heard of too many quality control problems...
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 08:36:51 »
Quote from: elef on Sat, 08 September 2012, 05:34:22
Most Apple products are made in mainland China, aren't they? I don't think I've heard of too many quality control problems...

Foxconn vs most mainland china factories is a whole different ball game. Attention to detail only comes from Taiwan. But you in turn pay for it in pure cost.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 09:03:16 »
Hi guys,

Candid question - Does changing vendor must mean changing product? Or can it be the same product/specs but just built elsewhere?

I'm looking forward to have one of our GH experts to inspect and compare a new Made in China DAS with the previous version.

I too was recommending DAS... I'll wait to see couples of credible reviews before doing so again.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 10:20:13 »
Quote from: BucklingSpring on Sat, 08 September 2012, 09:03:16
Hi guys,

Candid question - Does changing vendor must mean changing product? Or can it be the same product/specs but just built elsewhere?

I'm looking forward to have one of our GH experts to inspect and compare a new Made in China DAS with the previous version.

I too was recommending DAS... I'll wait to see couples of credible reviews before doing so again.

No, changing oem doesn-t mean changing product

HOWEVER, if the OEM has a bad reputation for sub-par quality and assembly, well then it doesn-t matter what you-re having them make.


IF it turns out that DAS is going with iONE, basically NONE of us here at geekhack will ever buy another one of their keyboards.

We, will also cultivate an unwarrented hatred of all things DAS, and yearn for the good ol- days when things were right with all out Costar

And some of us, not me, but some of us will spread rumors like how Das sacrifice cute baby animals to make their keyboards and the like...
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 11:12:05 »
They should have went back with Cherry. Das II was nicer looking. Oh well you can still get it from Cherry as G80-3000LPCXY-2. So I guess that is 4 oem for them now, Keytronic, Cherry, Costar, ?.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 11:20:36 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 08 September 2012, 10:20:13
IF it turns out that DAS is going with iONE, basically NONE of us here at geekhack will ever buy another one of their keyboards.

We, will also cultivate an unwarrented hatred of all things DAS, and yearn for the good ol- days when things were right with all out Costar

I do consider myself as "one of us".

The secret of iOne low cost is food deprivation of their under age laborers
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 13:00:45 »
Quote from: BucklingSpring on Sat, 08 September 2012, 11:20:36
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 08 September 2012, 10:20:13
IF it turns out that DAS is going with iONE, basically NONE of us here at geekhack will ever buy another one of their keyboards.

We, will also cultivate an unwarrented hatred of all things DAS, and yearn for the good ol- days when things were right with all out Costar

I do consider myself as "one of us".

The secret of iOne low cost is food deprivation of their under age laborers

Goodness, Gracious, Gasp... :o ... My God!
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 13:37:15 »
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IF it turns out that DAS is going with iONE, basically NONE of us here at geekhack will ever buy another one of their keyboards.

lol omg what have I done, haha not trying to start a Das bashing thread or something because personally I do own a Das Keyboard (Costar One), was just hoping to educate the masses on their next keyboard purchase.  However I do agree with this statement, if it turns out to be iOne I think no one on this forum would recommend Das anymore (Including Me) :(

This reminds me anyone know what happens when manufacture switches OEM?  Do they just ship over the mold / cast / equipment ... etc to the new factory?  Or do they just use the equipments at the new factory?  Switching OEM sounds like a really costy operation.

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I'm looking forward to have one of our GH experts to inspect and compare a new Made in China DAS with the previous version.

I too was recommending DAS... I'll wait to see couples of credible reviews before doing so again.

I'm curious about this also hopefully someone will do it soon :)
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 15:35:03 »
Quote from: Hyde on Sat, 08 September 2012, 13:37:15
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IF it turns out that DAS is going with iONE, basically NONE of us here at geekhack will ever buy another one of their keyboards.

lol omg what have I done, haha not trying to start a Das bashing thread or something because personally I do own a Das Keyboard (Costar One), was just hoping to educate the masses on their next keyboard purchase.  However I do agree with this statement, if it turns out to be iOne I think no one on this forum would recommend Das anymore (Including Me) :(

This reminds me anyone know what happens when manufacture switches OEM?  Do they just ship over the mold / cast / equipment ... etc to the new factory?  Or do they just use the equipments at the new factory?  Switching OEM sounds like a really costy operation.

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I'm looking forward to have one of our GH experts to inspect and compare a new Made in China DAS with the previous version.

I too was recommending DAS... I'll wait to see couples of credible reviews before doing so again.

I'm curious about this also hopefully someone will do it soon :)

They will probably use whatever iOne has in house, with minor variation to visual styling.

Notice how every one of iOne keyboard has those 2 1x keys on the bottom row.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 15:58:42 »
Quote from: lysol on Sat, 08 September 2012, 11:12:05
They should have went back with Cherry. Das II was nicer looking. Oh well you can still get it from Cherry as G80-3000LPCXY-2.

I always considered the Cherry G80-3000 range to be ungainly. That's the main reason I went with FILCO, although I then discovered that I had no choice as Cherry won't put browns into a keyboard anyway.

The Das looks lovely, but anyhing shiny surely just smears – like that glossy HP laptop I saw that was completely covered all over in grease and fingerprints. Really disgusting.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 17:28:13 »
Quote from: Daniel Beardsmore on Sat, 08 September 2012, 15:58:42
Quote from: lysol on Sat, 08 September 2012, 11:12:05
They should have went back with Cherry. Das II was nicer looking. Oh well you can still get it from Cherry as G80-3000LPCXY-2.

I always considered the Cherry G80-3000 range to be ungainly. That's the main reason I went with FILCO, although I then discovered that I had no choice as Cherry won't put browns into a keyboard anyway.

The Das looks lovely, but anyhing shiny surely just smears – like that glossy HP laptop I saw that was completely covered all over in grease and fingerprints. Really disgusting.

Depends on your keyboard habit.

My keyboard is stationary, and I never touch the bezel, I don't avoid it, I just don't do it.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 08 September 2012, 19:06:59 »
On my work (but not home) FILCOs, I find that the case has worn shiny around the up arrow key. I have no idea what I'm doing to cause that. The level of dust on my home keyboard suggests that I don't touch anything but the keys ;-)

(Both keys have coating wear on just the 'S' key – never figured that out either.)
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 09 September 2012, 03:02:27 »
Quote from: Daniel Beardsmore on Sat, 08 September 2012, 19:06:59
On my work (but not home) FILCOs, I find that the case has worn shiny around the up arrow key. I have no idea what I'm doing to cause that. The level of dust on my home keyboard suggests that I don't touch anything but the keys ;-)

(Both keys have coating wear on just the 'S' key – never figured that out either.)

I've seem some people rest their fingers there. Some people also have a form of impulse control disorder, similar to trichotillomania, but instead of hair pulling they rub things back and forth with their fingers.

Head up your local college and pretend to be a student and get a free diagnosis.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 09 September 2012, 06:42:48 »
Diagnosis? If anyone tried diagnosing me their head would asplode.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 09 September 2012, 11:54:21 »
So from this does that mean their build quality is no longer as good? Because I just noticed my F1 key switch on my Das is becoming sticky for some reason.. I would hate to get a replacement that was a p.o.s.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 09 September 2012, 17:13:36 »
Yeah well it's not confirmed that the new vendor is iOne yet, but if it is.  It will means Das will become more hit or miss.  Like it either works or break down in 2 weeks.  So if you're F1 is having issue I'd go get it exchanged for a non-media edition.  Because only the media edition is made by a different company.  Anything that says Model S Professional is made by Costar.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 09 September 2012, 17:15:06 »
Quote from: Daniel Beardsmore on Sun, 09 September 2012, 06:42:48
Diagnosis? If anyone tried diagnosing me their head would asplode.
i bet you're not as 'special' as you think ;)
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 10 September 2012, 22:53:25 »
http://youtu.be/GGKwgEcLXc4

If you look at the window and function keys, they're 1x1 size.  That screams iOne for me >______>
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 10 September 2012, 23:42:58 »
alleged $40 price point is interesting though.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 19 September 2012, 11:23:05 »
Just noticed that the Das Professional Standard and Professional are sold out on newegg. On the Das website, they only have the new ones listed on their main page. Looks like they are phasing it out. Judging by the layout, I think it must be an Ione board as well.
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 19 September 2012, 12:54:47 »
Yeah the non-media edition models start to go on sale now.  At least at Canada Computers it's -$20 and NCIX has -$15.

If you want to get any quality Das Keyboard now is the last chance lol.  After the Costar ones sold out then Das is no more :P
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 19 September 2012, 14:44:19 »
I was thinking about returning my Das as I'm within the 30 day window and just paying the extra to get another Filco but I might keep it now. I actually kind of like the glossy finish. :)
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Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 19 September 2012, 19:14:26 »
Quote from: m00nshake on Wed, 19 September 2012, 14:44:19
I was thinking about returning my Das as I'm within the 30 day window and just paying the extra to get another Filco but I might keep it now. I actually kind of like the glossy finish. :)

;D that's what they all say until it scratches....
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Re: Re: So the rumour with Das Keyboard is true
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 19 September 2012, 19:18:45 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 19 September 2012, 19:14:26
Quote from: m00nshake on Wed, 19 September 2012, 14:44:19
I was thinking about returning my Das as I'm within the 30 day window and just paying the extra to get another Filco but I might keep it now. I actually kind of like the glossy finish. :)

;D that's what they all say until it scratches....

Grrr... I just noticed a scratch on mine.
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