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Offline sdiearly

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KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« on: Tue, 22 April 2014, 04:16:52 »
I think I should post this in "review", but this product isn't published now.
This is more like brief introduction.

The new brand:

http://www.kbp.com.tw/

From this address, it shows it comes from Taiwan.
I am glad to have a chance to get one sample at this moment.

About mini V60:
This keyboard is ANSI-60% layout, like poker/poker2 with 61 keys.
I copy feature list from their manual:
 
1.  USB Interface
2.  HID Device
3.  Plug & Play
4.  Firmware upgradable over USB
5.  QWERTY Layout
6.  About 60% as wide as of the standard 104-Key keyboard
7.  Uses Cherry MX-Series switches
8.  N-key rollover
9.  6 Port dip switch for customer define
10. Multi-Lingual Layout
11. Laser-engraved Keycaps
12. Dual Led backlit function

Then I have some pictures to show details.

The boxing:
Top

bottom:

The Chinese words tell us it made in Taiwan.

The contents

1.  Keyboard
     *.  Dimension(W*L*H):100 mm*291 mm*42.5 mm   
     *.  Weight:510 g
2.  Replacement keycap
3.  Cable
     *. 1.5 meters
4.  Keycap puller

The special feature:
Duel back-light LED
User can change the color via pressing "fn" + "enter"
My gift is two colors in RED/BLUE




Strong and good look case
Those corner design improve the structure and poise of keyboard




Actually, KBP V60 is assembled by Costar,
To be the 1st and the only one 60% keyboard product from Costar OEM.
I think the quality can be the same as CODE/Filco/IDF/Feenix, those famous products
« Last Edit: Tue, 22 April 2014, 04:19:55 by sdiearly »
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 22 April 2014, 04:18:24 »
is there anything that sets this apart from other 60%?
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Offline sdiearly

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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 22 April 2014, 04:35:22 »
is there anything that sets this apart from other 60%?

I do not know if this is their finalized design in FN layout.
beside keyboard using, I think this case can make me type comfortably.
« Last Edit: Tue, 22 April 2014, 04:37:30 by sdiearly »
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 22 April 2014, 07:24:48 »
any chance to get white LED color among others colors or is it only blue/red as main LED color?

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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 22 April 2014, 07:47:00 »
The default Fn layer is not very good, particularly the placement of Home and End.

They mention the firmware is upgradable, but is the layout programmable? What do the various DIP switches do?

I agree, white LEDs would be nice.

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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 22 April 2014, 08:11:50 »
What controller is on it?

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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:36:09 »
Yes, I've complain the layout to them.
And this is sample production, probably not the final layout.

LED spec show on their website only two choices, blue/red and blue/green.
white light could not to have duel color since it's two pins controlled.

dip switches are used to do do key replacement.

MCU seems to be arm series.


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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:38:18 »
Looks nice in red!

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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 11:35:22 »
You said the keyboard is made by Costar, but a few months back, the developer said it uses Cherry stabilizers. Does it use Cherry stabilizers, or Costar style stabs?
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 11:38:17 »
And because it has different mounting holes than a Poker-style 60%, they just eliminated many buyers who would replace the stock case with an existing alu case.

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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 11:55:55 »
Is it PCB or plate mount?

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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 16:49:48 »
Is it PCB or plate mount?
I second this. Could you post some pics of the naked keyboard without keycaps?

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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 18:06:46 »
Does it use Cherry stabilizers, or Costar style stabs?

^I would like to know this also^
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 18:15:59 »
It uses Cherry stabs
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 18:18:01 »
It uses Cherry stabs

That's what I figured, but when I heard "made by Costar" it made me wonder.
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 18:40:27 »
It uses Cherry stabs

That's what I figured, but when I heard "made by Costar" it made me wonder.

Yea, its a bit strange
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:06:28 »
Oh, sweet! I've been waiting for a 60% with greens or whites!
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:11:44 »
I can't wait for the V60 MTS to come out.  That one I for sure plan on getting.
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 21:17:07 »
You said its firmware is upgradable, I'd like to know if we can flash custom firmware to it or not, and if that is the case, what controller is on it?

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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 00:51:55 »
You said the keyboard is made by Costar, but a few months back, the developer said it uses Cherry stabilizers. Does it use Cherry stabilizers, or Costar style stabs?

It is just likes ducky stabilizer(which is on my hand).
But I can't sure the final design will be filco style or ducky style.
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 00:58:04 »
It uses Cherry stabs

That's what I figured, but when I heard "made by Costar" it made me wonder.

Yea, its a bit strange

Stabs can't help you to determine this keyboard comes from which manufacture.
Using what part to assemble is decided by brand, not OEM.
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 01:05:24 »
You said its firmware is upgradable, I'd like to know if we can flash custom firmware to it or not, and if that is the case, what controller is on it?

I don't think FW customized tool can be released by this vendor, due to many warranty issues.
Maybe we can only get the .exe file to update firmware(still following their design).

Again, I'm trying to complain this layout in FN layer.
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 01:06:57 »
It uses Cherry stabs

That's what I figured, but when I heard "made by Costar" it made me wonder.

Yea, its a bit strange

Stabs can't help you to determine this keyboard comes from which manufacture.
Using what part to assemble is decided by brand, not OEM.

I'm aware of that.  I actually prefer Costar stabs, and was hoping they would be used since it was made by them  :)
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 06 June 2014, 11:26:32 »
For anyone interested in pre-ordering, Rabbit Web Factory seems to be taking order : http://rabbitwebfactory.com/pages/v60

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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 06 June 2014, 13:39:30 »
Does it use Cherry stabilizers, or Costar style stabs?

^I would like to know this also^

The reference here read plate-based.
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 06 June 2014, 13:44:34 »
I like the case, and the triple access to arrows, left, right, and ala Poker X. Now I should reconsider the decision I had almost took to get a new Poker II, because I do not like the lack of a switchable fixed cluster of arrows of the Poker II that this one has. I use that cluster a lot in my Poker X. However, I may miss the option to upgrade the case due to the different positions of the screws in this one.


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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 06 June 2014, 22:08:47 »
I like the case, and the triple access to arrows, left, right, and ala Poker X. Now I should reconsider the decision I had almost took to get a new Poker II, because I do not like the lack of a switchable fixed cluster of arrows of the Poker II that this one has. I use that cluster a lot in my Poker X. However, I may miss the option to upgrade the case due to the different positions of the screws in this one.

Yep, it seems that V60 is plate-based from the reference link.

For those who are looking at co-star stabilizer for V60, you would be disappointed.

I emailed Rabbit Web Factory and got to know that despite being manufactured by co-star, V60 is using cherry stabilizer instead of co-star stabilizer.

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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 06 June 2014, 23:01:07 »
I like the case, and the triple access to arrows, left, right, and ala Poker X. Now I should reconsider the decision I had almost took to get a new Poker II, because I do not like the lack of a switchable fixed cluster of arrows of the Poker II that this one has. I use that cluster a lot in my Poker X. However, I may miss the option to upgrade the case due to the different positions of the screws in this one.

Yep, it seems that V60 is plate-based from the reference link.

For those who are looking at co-star stabilizer for V60, you would be disappointed.

I emailed Rabbit Web Factory and got to know that despite being manufactured by co-star, V60 is using cherry stabilizer instead of co-star stabilizer.


Yeah I saw somewhere that it uses Cherry stabs.  I still wouldn't mind getting one though.

I like the case, and the triple access to arrows, left, right, and ala Poker X. Now I should reconsider the decision I had almost took to get a new Poker II, because I do not like the lack of a switchable fixed cluster of arrows of the Poker II that this one has. I use that cluster a lot in my Poker X. However, I may miss the option to upgrade the case due to the different positions of the screws in this one.




The the arrow layers is one of the main things I like about it.  Also I think Pexon mentioned that he might be able to get some aftermarket V60 cases made at some point.

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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 07 June 2014, 01:10:35 »
I am trying to make my mind about this or a Sprit kit. Any advice on it?
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Re: KBP mini V60, new brand from Taiwan
« Reply #29 on: Sat, 07 June 2014, 03:39:12 »
Too bad it doesn't compatible with poker case, otherwise I might give a try.

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