RAM Recomendations

[baldgye]

Alright so my RAM is ****ed and I'm looking to replace it, but I've not really been keeping up with spec's and alike for a while now and a quick glance at overclockers and it seems RAM is insanely expensive compared to how I remember it some 5years or so ago when you could buy all the RAM you needed for ~£40ish... now it seems to be like £60 for the most basic level amount.

So here is what I'm after 8GB of RAM to replace my (seemingly) broken stuff, here is what CPU-Z tells me about my mobo and my ram atm;

[tp4tissue]

If you can justify the need for it.. get 2x8gb of 2400mhz [expensive]

if you can't justify the need for it,  get 2x4gb of 2400mhz [~$100 on sale]




the key takeaway here is GET 2400mhz.. or at least 2133 [~$80 on sale]

It makes a huge difference in snappiness, when you got lots of apps loaded.

[kmiller8]

get anything low profile, the 20nm ram modules are much more robust than traditional 32nm

[baldgye]

get anything low profile, the 20nm ram modules are much more robust than traditional 32nm

by low profile what do you mean? laptop ram?

[Zeal]

Since it's an x58 board, did you used to run it in tri-channel or dual channel? If tri-channel, those aren't manufactured anymore, and you can either fill up all 6 slots, or just run 2.

[kmiller8]

by low profile what do you mean? laptop ram?

adjective: low-profile
2.
(of an object) lower or slimmer than is usual for objects of its type.

[baldgye]

by low profile what do you mean? laptop ram?

adjective: low-profile

wow such manner
very nice
much welcome

[baldgye]

Since it's an x58 board, did you used to run it in tri-channel or dual channel? If tri-channel, those aren't manufactured anymore, and you can either fill up all 6 slots, or just run 2.

I'm running duals atm but everything seems alot more than it was before.. idk maybe its just me?

[tbc]

*sigh* tissue paper

this is nehalem architecture.  they solved the memory speed handicap.  which means that it doesn't need fast memory like the core 2 duo era did.

buy 1866 mhz cl9 in the capacity that you need.  DO NOT buy DDR4.  only DDR3.  honestly, even 1333 works.


basically, each memory tier is more expensive nowadays, but ANY grade of memory works the same.  so generally speaking, memory prices haven't risen.

[heedpantsnow]

Also no need to buy low voltage; x58 memory controller runs at 1.65V if I remember correctly.

[baldgye]

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-033-TG&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517

this is what I'm looking at replacing what I have with... its the cheapest I could find...

[JDorfler]

Are you looking for a brand name or are you just looking for specs?

[tp4tissue]

*sigh* tissue paper

this is nehalem architecture.  they solved the memory speed handicap.  which means that it doesn't need fast memory like the core 2 duo era did.

buy 1866 mhz cl9 in the capacity that you need.  DO NOT buy DDR4.  only DDR3.  honestly, even 1333 works.


basically, each memory tier is more expensive nowadays, but ANY grade of memory works the same.  so generally speaking, memory prices haven't risen.

That is NOT TRUE..

when the cpu has more memory bandwidth..  EVERYTHING will on average run faster..


The little bits of time savings here/there will add up because, the computer is something we're chained to..


2400mhz provides 25-35% more bandwidth depending on how well you've tweaked it.

[IvanIvanovich]

For a little bit more you could get a 12GB triple channel mushkin stealth kit sent over to you from the US. I'm running a similar dual channel mushkin set on mine which I've had pushed to 7-7-7-20 1T for some years and it's been good. I've also had mushkin on my last 4 or 5 systems and never had any issues with their memory.

[baldgye]

For a little bit more you could get a 12GB triple channel mushkin stealth kit sent over to you from the US. I'm running a similar dual channel mushkin set on mine which I've had pushed to 7-7-7-20 1T for some years and it's been good. I've also had mushkin on my last 4 or 5 systems and never had any issues with their memory.

ahh thats a good idea, i never thought about getting some from the US!

[heedpantsnow]

I'd be happy to help you out if you need a proxy.

[baldgye]

I'd be happy to help you out if you need a proxy.

Cheers! I guess I'd better get looking ha!

[tbc]

*sigh* tissue paper

this is nehalem architecture.  they solved the memory speed handicap.  which means that it doesn't need fast memory like the core 2 duo era did.

buy 1866 mhz cl9 in the capacity that you need.  DO NOT buy DDR4.  only DDR3.  honestly, even 1333 works.


basically, each memory tier is more expensive nowadays, but ANY grade of memory works the same.  so generally speaking, memory prices haven't risen.

That is NOT TRUE..

when the cpu has more memory bandwidth..  EVERYTHING will on average run faster..


The little bits of time savings here/there will add up because, the computer is something we're chained to..


2400mhz provides 25-35% more bandwidth depending on how well you've tweaked it.

you're trying to tell me that the CPU runs 10GB/s of data?  AKA, it transcodes HD lord of the rings EVERY SINGLE SECOND?

sorry you're not an engineer

here's a tissue for your issue?

EDIT:

TP REQUIRES MOAR TISSUES

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2792/9

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Intel-Core-i7-Nehalem,2057-13.html

[baldgye]

*sigh* tissue paper

this is nehalem architecture.  they solved the memory speed handicap.  which means that it doesn't need fast memory like the core 2 duo era did.

buy 1866 mhz cl9 in the capacity that you need.  DO NOT buy DDR4.  only DDR3.  honestly, even 1333 works.


basically, each memory tier is more expensive nowadays, but ANY grade of memory works the same.  so generally speaking, memory prices haven't risen.

That is NOT TRUE..

when the cpu has more memory bandwidth..  EVERYTHING will on average run faster..


The little bits of time savings here/there will add up because, the computer is something we're chained to..


2400mhz provides 25-35% more bandwidth depending on how well you've tweaked it.

you're trying to tell me that the CPU runs 10GB/s of data?  AKA, it transcodes HD lord of the rings EVERY SINGLE SECOND?

sorry you're not an engineer

here's a tissue for your issue?

EDIT:

TP REQUIRES MOAR TISSUES

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2792/9

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Intel-Core-i7-Nehalem,2057-13.html

So given that your an expert, care to recommend any sticks of ram that are cheap?

[The Mad Professor]

8GB (2x4GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00A14ZT6U

That should do it for you, baldgye

[heedpantsnow]

This is only a dual channel kit; x58 can (and should) use tri channel.

[The Mad Professor]

So get another 4GB stick and call it a day.

[baldgye]

8GB (2x4GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00A14ZT6U

That should do it for you, baldgye

Thanks! (is low profile really much better?) That's only a tiny bit more than the ones I was looking at, and is a brand I've heard of!

[The Mad Professor]

Crucial is a good solid brand. As far as low profile is concerned, the real benefit comes into play if you decide to install an aftermarket CPU cooler, as they can be quite large and can extend over the top of the RAM slots. There's no drawback to having low profile RAM.

[baldgye]

Crucial is a good solid brand. As far as low profile is concerned, the real benefit comes into play if you decide to install an aftermarket CPU cooler, as they can be quite large and can extend over the top of the RAM slots. There's no drawback to having low profile RAM.

ahh ok fair enough then!

[dorkvader]

8GB (2x4GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00A14ZT6U

That should do it for you, baldgye

Thanks! (is low profile really much better?) That's only a tiny bit more than the ones I was looking at, and is a brand I've heard of!

I dont think you'll notice any performance difference between LP or normal RAM.

Crucial (micron's brand) has been good in my experience. We'd ordered at least 100 kits from them with no issues thus far.

[tp4tissue]

*sigh* tissue paper

this is nehalem architecture.  they solved the memory speed handicap.  which means that it doesn't need fast memory like the core 2 duo era did.

buy 1866 mhz cl9 in the capacity that you need.  DO NOT buy DDR4.  only DDR3.  honestly, even 1333 works.


basically, each memory tier is more expensive nowadays, but ANY grade of memory works the same.  so generally speaking, memory prices haven't risen.

That is NOT TRUE..

when the cpu has more memory bandwidth..  EVERYTHING will on average run faster..


The little bits of time savings here/there will add up because, the computer is something we're chained to..


2400mhz provides 25-35% more bandwidth depending on how well you've tweaked it.

you're trying to tell me that the CPU runs 10GB/s of data?  AKA, it transcodes HD lord of the rings EVERY SINGLE SECOND?

sorry you're not an engineer

here's a tissue for your issue?

EDIT:

TP REQUIRES MOAR TISSUES

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2792/9

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Intel-Core-i7-Nehalem,2057-13.html

It doesn't need to run 10GB of data..


WHile it is true, that whatever time the machine may save by running with faster ram is easily used up when you waste your time watching a tv show.

That does not alter the FACT.... that EVERYTHING the computer is doing is done faster..


When you benchmark something,  it is done given an arbitrary start and stop period..

That is NOT how real life works.. Real life has no such periods..  and the Speed bonus is ON GOING..



Look at it this way..  You get +2% research bonus in Civ,  that's ONGOING forever, that 2% will count..

Benchmarking a certain task for an hour, and saying that only put out 1 frame more per second.. is NOT the realism we deal with..


You fundamentally misunderstand Passive-attributes..




if you look at the benchmark.. lets just say it saves you 2 second from modifying a jpeg..


what happens when you do 100s of jpegs

lets say it saves you 10 minutes on a video encode..

what happens when you do 100s of video encodes..



now, WHAT is real-life computer use... it's 8 hours a day..  add up all the time savings.. then keep multiplying because  no body stops to breath these days..

It's computer 24/7,  time savings..