Trump Flu

[tp4tissue]

So..  w/ the $millions in food testing, covid testing,  secrat servicio,  best of everything.. We couldn't keep 1x dude from getting covid.

He sent kiz back 2 skool.  Everyone back 2 wurk..

/Next lvl Genius

[suicidal_orange]

Heard this on the news, isn't he properly old and not particularly fit?  Maybe something good will come out of covid after all...

[Dongulator]

we'll see how things turn out in 14days... It could get interesting, is Pence better or worse?

[tp4tissue]

Heard this on the news, isn't he properly old and not particularly fit?  Maybe something good will come out of covid after all...

Well, he's the president, it's almost impossible he'll die from this since they would have access to all the experimental meds and unlimited immune plasma.

[Darthbaggins]

we'll see how things turn out in 14days... It could get interesting, is Pence better or worse?

Last I checked, Pence is worse - just quieter about things

[noisyturtle]

Even now this is a boy who cried wolf situation to me. Part of me thinks Trump made this entire thing up to distract for him ****ting the bed during that debate and garner sympathy votes, but he'd never do that right?

[tp4tissue]

Even now this is a boy who cried wolf situation to me. Part of me thinks Trump made this entire thing up to distract for him ****ting the bed during that debate and garner sympathy votes, but he'd never do that right?

Sympathy ? IDK bout that... Comments over the web say they wouldn't feel sorry for him even if one or all of his kids died... Even the little one.

The polarization is his own doing though, Trump along with the republican party are accomplice to the death of 200,000 Americans, and likely near 500,000 by the end of it.

[noisyturtle]

Even now this is a boy who cried wolf situation to me. Part of me thinks Trump made this entire thing up to distract for him ****ting the bed during that debate and garner sympathy votes, but he'd never do that right?

Sympathy ? IDK bout that... Comments over the web say they wouldn't feel sorry for him even if one or all of his kids died... Even the little one.

The polarization is his own doing though, Trump along with the republican party are accomplice to the death of 200,000 Americans, and likely near 500,000 by the end of it.

Remember when 3000 deaths was enough to unite a nation?

[Leslieann]

Heard this on the news, isn't he properly old and not particularly fit?  Maybe something good will come out of covid after all...

Well, he's the president, it's almost impossible he'll die from this since they would have access to all the experimental meds and unlimited immune plasma.

That's not how medicine works, he could very much die.
We have no cure, only ways to minimize the symptoms, which means the human body still does most of the work. He's still human and not a young healthy one at that. As for experimental, it's usually only done as a last resort, would you want to be the doc administering an experimental drug on the president?

It won't be surprising to me if we have a new president by end of next week, possibly even by tomorrow. Even if he pulls through with his health it could be a long time, if ever, that he fully recovers if this goes bad, which it's already bad enough he went to the hospital.

[Findecanor]

Part of me thinks Trump made this entire thing up to distract for him ****ting the bed during that debate and garner sympathy votes, but he'd never do that right?

I wouldn't put it past him himself to have faked it, or even for someone in his administration to have infected him on purpose. Trump has had some people with a weird view of reality working directly for him, and this is a party that does gerrymandering and tries to sabotage postal votes, among other things, remember!
They could have looked at Boris Johnson and Jair Bolsonaro who had only gained popularity after they had been sick with the virus, despite having the highest death tolls in UK and South America respectively.

The important thing for his faction within the party is not Trump himself but to get their faction elected.
Not only are they after the sympathy-votes. They are also after the swing-votes in the political middle: voters who are not really enthused by Biden but have been more appalled by Trump so far. By keeping Trump away from saying stupid things, and hinting at the chance that he might have to step down, that could turn some voters in Pence's and the administration's favour.

While my first reaction was to point and laugh, I am more worried now that catching the virus would be in Trump's favour.

[Drakenocas]

Even now this is a boy who cried wolf situation to me. Part of me thinks Trump made this entire thing up to distract for him ****ting the bed during that debate and garner sympathy votes, but he'd never do that right?

You can media trial it where he got it.  He hasn't had sympathy for five years, why start now.

[Leslieann]

5 years? He's never had any.
Go read up on him, well, anything not a fluff piece (he loved buying off the press), the man has always been this way.

While I wouldn't put it past him to fake it I think there's enough evidence to say he has it at this point. Of all times to get it, this would probably be the worst they could have picked. Besides this being a critical time for campaigning, which he needs to do, it's too late for a change of strategy on this and that doesn't even get into what happens if he dies or has to resign for health reasons.


Just wait, based on photos I saw of the events they were at (not to mention flying around in Air Force one together with no masks), I will be amazed if neither Bill Barr, Chris Christie or Mike Pence have it, Pence may already have it but they just haven't announced it for fear of how people will react (so say rumors). A bunch of the press caught it and White House staffers who initially made light of it are now in fear. There are signs it's actually worse than they're letting on, the White House med facility should be able to take care of it, they mostly lack a respirator, and the Pentagon is saying everything will be fine (why are they even involved?). Just the fact that he stayed overnight is a clue, the secret service doesn't like a Pres staying at a hospital, it's a health and a security risk, which is why White House is equipped like it is.

Also at meetings with those same people earlier in the week was an entire senate committee (who they now think may all now be infected), Lyndsey Graham and Mitch McConnell and frankly I'd keep an eye on Chris Wallace (the debate moderator) as well. Another event late this week had Trump schmoozing wealthy donors ($250k a person) and there was no safety protocols in place, this was mere hours before he tested positive. Oops. They waited 24 hours to notify these people, not that it matters, several of them said they refuse to self isolate regardless (thanks!).

Again, is it a surprise if they have it? They all acted like nothing was going on, shaking hands, hugging, sitting close...

Edit/update:
Trump says he plans to stay (and work) in the hospital for several days, this hasn't happened since Reagan was shot.

[fohat.digs]

this would probably be the worst they could have picked

Assuming that this was planned (which I doubt, even though it was pretty much inevitable after being around tens of thousands of people for months), Trump is a gambler who has had a long career riding an incredible streak of good luck.

If he dies, the Republican Party will die with him (and good riddance!), as they have chosen to live with him.

But if he survives, then he will have bragging rights to the moon and back claiming that he was right all along that it was never any big deal after all.

[tp4tissue]

::updat,  doctor slipped, said they knew for 72 hours,  whereby the press release was only 36hr

The reason is, within that time Trump attended a fundraiser,  so if they knew for 72 hours, it means he attended it DESPITE KNOWING he had confirmed Covid. 

[absyrd]

::updat,  doctor slipped, said they knew for 72 hours,  whereby the press release was only 36hr

The reason is, within that time Trump attended a fundraiser,  so if they knew for 72 hours, it means he attended it DESPITE KNOWING he had confirmed Covid. 

Yeah. These ****s need to get their timelines straight.

[Dongulator]

::updat,  doctor slipped, said they knew for 72 hours,  whereby the press release was only 36hr

The reason is, within that time Trump attended a fundraiser,  so if they knew for 72 hours, it means he attended it DESPITE KNOWING he had confirmed Covid. 

Yeah. These ****s need to get their timelines straight.

This type of **** has been happening since the pandemic was first a concern. The whole, don't wear masks/wear masks thing. The discrepancy on where it started, who's effected most, etc.. It just goes to show that humanity is imperfect and people need to either prepare better, or roll with the punches... Especially with the great leadership we have.

[Leslieann]

Trump is a gambler who has had a long career riding an incredible streak of good luck.

If he dies, the Republican Party will die with him (and good riddance!), as they have chosen to live with him.

Regarding the party, I think without him the party will return somewhat to normal. You still have social media to deal with but at least you no longer have him throwing gas on the fire.


Trump isn't so much a gambler so much as he is petulant, he'll do the opposite of what an expert tells him because he hates being told how to do things.
His business model is to start a business with other people's money then collect a paycheck (from their money) as CEO while it gets run into the ground leaving investors and banks holding the bag. If anyone complains he sues, then refuses to pay the lawyers, he has trouble finding big name lawyers for this reason.  When he said he loves bankruptcy he wasn't joking, it cuts his responsibility to the debt leaving him with his earnings. He did it to pretty much every major U.S. bank by the late 80's then he moved on to the E.U. banks. By 2000 he had burned most of them as well and he needed to go to former Soviet countries to get loans.

Most things with his name on them are simply licensing deals and he has no actual involvement, he invested a lot in making a name for himself which he leverages this way. He does make money on (some) property and TV but that's really about all, his golf courses are a pet project more than actual profit machine. He was always more playboy/wannabe mobster than a businessman.

[fohat.digs]

he needed to go to former Soviet countries to get loans.

What you said is quite true, but those loans are really secondary. For the past 20 years the money laundering has been his real focus and profit wellspring. These come in the form of gifts (aka grifts) wherein clean US properties are sold at wildly inflated prices for dirty Russian cash.

He is able to exploit two horrible loopholes in the system whereby real estate transactions escape almost all scrutiny for money laundering, and property values can be manipulated (sometimes by orders of magnitude) to escape colossal tax obligations.

Hotels, casinos, golf courses, etc, are perfect conduits for passing, blending, and diluting large quantities of cash.

[tp4tissue]

he needed to go to former Soviet countries to get loans.

What you said is quite true, but those loans are really secondary. For the past 20 years the money laundering has been his real focus and profit wellspring. These come in the form of gifts (aka grifts) wherein clean US properties are sold at wildly inflated prices for dirty Russian cash.

He is able to exploit two horrible loopholes in the system whereby real estate transactions escape almost all scrutiny for money laundering, and property values can be manipulated (sometimes by orders of magnitude) to escape colossal tax obligations.

Hotels, casinos, golf courses, etc, are perfect conduits for passing, blending, and diluting large quantities of cash.

DOn't forget he's high up in that underag pr0st17ut10n ring. ep5te1n/7rumf/ma)(w311   BFFs.

[noisyturtle]

Trump gets COVID

Leaves hospital while actively infected, removes mask on live tv and tells people to "Get out there"

Someone explain to me how this is not considered an act liable to cause further outbreak?

I can't even wrap my mind around how reckless and stupid this is.

[Leslieann]

He can't change direction right now, it would be admitting Biden was right, he was (very) wrong and his campaign is toast.

Maaaaaybe after the election but even then I doubt it, he would look like a fool and if there's one thing he hates more than anything it's looking like a fool, he would rather die. And he certainly has no qualms letting others die to avoid him looking the fool.

[tp4tissue]

He can't change direction right now, it would be admitting Biden was right, he was (very) wrong and his campaign is toast.

Maaaaaybe after the election but even then I doubt it, he would look like a fool and if there's one thing he hates more than anything it's looking like a fool, he would rather die. And he certainly has no qualms letting others die to avoid him looking the fool.

Nononoo,, he is a fool, he always looks like a fool,  but his mind is so broken that he can not discern what is and is not foolish, and so his idiocy continues.


The flip side is, he's intelligent, and there is some macro reason the government decided that 200- 500 thousand americans needed to die.    Maybe climate change ? Don't know..

[tp4tissue]

Hahahah.. his twitter is even m0ar cray cray than normal..


There is also some chatter (other sources) that Trump could win california, because the -elites- there are terrified of Biden's running mate.   Of course this is just a hedge, but apparently word on the street is , they (not calif, as in america) weren't ready for a woman president, they're also not ready for a woman vice president.

In Tp4's experience a <business female> pick less risky, shorter term bets.   They're no less ruthless.  They aren't as good at holding the line during attrition.    guess maybe that's where the sentiment comes from when  they exclude women participation in leadership in certain positions.

[yui]

The flip side is, he's intelligent, and there is some macro reason the government decided that 200- 500 thousand americans needed to die.    Maybe climate change ? Don't know..

if i have to hazard a guess the real reason on why government rather let peoples die starts with "mon" and end in "ey"... they can not care about anything other than their own pockets. well like most peoples to be honest, if you gave the chance to the average nobody to get 10000$ but it cause the death of 100 peoples there would not be many peoples left at the end.

[tp4tissue]

The flip side is, he's intelligent, and there is some macro reason the government decided that 200- 500 thousand americans needed to die.    Maybe climate change ? Don't know..

if i have to hazard a guess the real reason on why government rather let peoples die starts with "mon" and end in "ey"... they can not care about anything other than their own pockets. well like most peoples to be honest, if you gave the chance to the average nobody to get 10000$ but it cause the death of 100 peoples there would not be many peoples left at the end.

Money is something most people recognize, but it doesn't seem to be about that (THIS TIME). The government is slow moving, and generally bad,  we all agree on that, but they're not stupid,   Any one person can be stupid,   but a large team of people can't mis-identify that the follow through as applied by the most recent chain of events result in LESS wealth and less control.

This only benefits OTHER nations vying for world supremacy,   Which is what lends weight to the outward manipulation conspiracy.

Now, the United States took this approach to capture japan in propping up the ww2 japanese war criminals to be puppets.


The Trend today is of course, well, are the other teams doing that in reverse.   

For example, the British and Americans really set China back with the Opium war.   NOW TODAY,  there is major influx of Chinese and Russian dollars towards Legalized Marijuana.   <what's the play here>   Cigarettes are good for no one,  and Marijuana is as if alcohol and cigarettes had a baby.   It' makes you addicted AND (generally) unproductive.

An unproductive base population weakens the nation as a whole as it allows for the wrong industries/ leaders to gain power.

There is also some rumors on dark web, that Russia + Mosad already controls American politics through Kompromat via the ep5te1n debacle..     The slight deviation to this rumor where they control ONLY the republicans is false,  We know for a fact that ep5ste1n had as many democrat patrons as republican.

[tp4tissue]

OHhhhh shieeee... it's getting heated , Get ready for Stimpak maybe   ..Drumph tweets $1200 ready to sign, standalone bill.

He's trying to buy votes now,  buhh Like NTurtle said,  take dat money,  Vote Biden anyway??

[fohat.digs]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-covid-dexamethasone-mental-health_n_5f7b22e6c5b64cf6a253baa3

[yui]

OHhhhh shieeee... it's getting heated , Get ready for Stimpak maybe   ..Drumph tweets $1200 ready to sign, standalone bill.

He's trying to buy votes now,  buhh Like NTurtle said,  take dat money,  Vote Biden anyway??

In that scenario i would not even take that money, let's not give him more ammo to say that the elections were rigged if he looses. and trump money is likely dirty money anyway...

[noisyturtle]

OHhhhh shieeee... it's getting heated , Get ready for Stimpak maybe   ..Drumph tweets $1200 ready to sign, standalone bill.

He's trying to buy votes now,  buhh Like NTurtle said,  take dat money,  Vote Biden anyway??

In that scenario i would not even take that money, let's not give him more ammo to say that the elections were rigged if he looses. and trump money is likely dirty money anyway...

Send me yours and I promise to buy something conservatives would hate.

[yui]

OHhhhh shieeee... it's getting heated , Get ready for Stimpak maybe   ..Drumph tweets $1200 ready to sign, standalone bill.

He's trying to buy votes now,  buhh Like NTurtle said,  take dat money,  Vote Biden anyway??

In that scenario i would not even take that money, let's not give him more ammo to say that the elections were rigged if he looses. and trump money is likely dirty money anyway...

Send me yours and I promise to buy something conservatives would hate.

I'd love to but i am not American, so i do not think i can...