Is there actually anything special about G900 wireless?

[ThoughtArtist]

I tried a Logitech wireless mouse and it juddered from time to time. If I ever, even once, have a wireless signal issue with a main peripheral, then I will always go back to a 100% reliable wired connection.

Is the G900 just more of the same? Mostly good, but every now-and-then glitchy?

[tp4tissue]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=80758.0

[Bucake]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=80758.0

why did you put it in off topic and not just in input devices? :E

[Elrick]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=80758.0

why did you put it in off topic and not just in input devices? :E

Because he can comment about anything not related to the upcoming G900 mouse.  Very smart operator our TP4 member  .

[ThoughtArtist]

I think the switchable buttons is the coolest part. I still don't care about wireless that much as I don't use it from across the room. My mouse cable is fine if I set it up properly. I have two G303's and a G402 for less than a G900 as well

[munch]

it seems to be the first wireless mouse with performance as good as wired mice - and in this case, since it's logitech's new team... it's better than most other mice in performance.

I am impressed by what's been shown so far, but I don't think the shape is for me.

[Leslieann]

it seems to be the first wireless mouse with performance as good as wired mice

You never looked at the G700 I guess.

High end wireless has been right up there for a while.

[munch]

it seems to be the first wireless mouse with performance as good as wired mice

You never looked at the G700 I guess.

High end wireless has been right up there for a while.

I have, and it's not there :-) really nowhere near as good.

you should read up some on the sensors and what performance is being measured etc.
G700 is rather crap, actually. but it depends on what level you play at, and how picky you are, of course. it's not "high end" by any measure, though.

[Jokrik]

I'm more concern with the weight
for me G602 with two batteries is perfect, and now I'm using MX master since I don't play games as much anymore
but G900 seems too light

[ThoughtArtist]

it seems to be the first wireless mouse with performance as good as wired mice - and in this case, since it's logitech's new team... it's better than most other mice in performance.

I am impressed by what's been shown so far, but I don't think the shape is for me.

Shape is something I would have to use first. I thought I would dislike the g303, but now I find it very comfortable. I love that you can switch sides with the buttons unlike g303 which is otherwise symmetrical. Wireless would be cool since I wouldn't have to reroute my cable when putting on the left of the keyboard. It's nice to use it left handed from time to time to ease strain on my shoulder. I tried FPS gaming with the left hand on the mouse and I really had no trouble with that, it was my right hand that had trouble adjusting to using the keyboard. Instead of strafing, I kept wanting to turn, even though I was using mouse aim just fine left handed.

[ThoughtArtist]

I'm more concern with the weight
for me G602 with two batteries is perfect, and now I'm using MX master since I don't play games as much anymore
but G900 seems too light

It helps in games for sure to have a bit lighter. So many complaints about G502 being too heavy, even without the added weights. I just got the g402 instead

[iLLucionist]

Why is it so ridiculously expensive? Here in the Netherlands I'd have to pay 180 euro's! My Avior 7000 was "only" 80.

[munch]

Why is it so ridiculously expensive? Here in the Netherlands I'd have to pay 180 euro's! My Avior 7000 was "only" 80.

it's wireless with the performance of the highest end mice on the market right now, but such a steep price increase might not be the most justifiable

[Leslieann]

it seems to be the first wireless mouse with performance as good as wired mice

You never looked at the G700 I guess.

High end wireless has been right up there for a while.

I have, and it's not there :-) really nowhere near as good.

you should read up some on the sensors and what performance is being measured etc.
G700 is rather crap, actually. but it depends on what level you play at, and how picky you are, of course. it's not "high end" by any measure, though.

Oh, I'm picky, but at some point, all those stats are just for ego stroking and not actually doing anything for you.
I played FPS for years and did quite well using wireless.

[appleonama]

wireless = trash especially for mice

[munch]

it seems to be the first wireless mouse with performance as good as wired mice

You never looked at the G700 I guess.

High end wireless has been right up there for a while.

I have, and it's not there :-) really nowhere near as good.

you should read up some on the sensors and what performance is being measured etc.
G700 is rather crap, actually. but it depends on what level you play at, and how picky you are, of course. it's not "high end" by any measure, though.

Oh, I'm picky, but at some point, all those stats are just for ego stroking and not actually doing anything for you.
I played FPS for years and did quite well using wireless.

then not picky enough I'd say, the click latency and even just overall latency was far too high, and the sensor of the G700S has some inherent issues (I think it's the Avago 9800? or 9500. both have the same issue) with tracking.

wireless = trash especially for mice

Not this G900S, apparently

[tp4tissue]

I'm now more excited for a G503..  or idk, call it mx600 instead..


Just take the newest sensor, put it into an mx5** case..  reduce the weight to 60g..

[munch]

I'm now more excited for a G503..  or idk, call it mx600 instead..


Just take the newest sensor, put it into an mx5** case..  reduce the weight to 60g..

I wish would be happy even with ~100g though.
and maybe change back the feet to some more regularly shaped ones... because the G502 ones are pretty stupid

[Bucake]

the new G900 has feet like it. it kind of looks like logitech is now stuck using weird shapes like that on all of their mice :-/
edit: well, maybe slightly less weird. but still weird!



fyi, picture taken from this review: http://www.overclock.net/t/1595865/review-of-logitech-g900-chaos-spectrum-wireless-gaming-mouse-by-ino

[Leslieann]

it seems to be the first wireless mouse with performance as good as wired mice

You never looked at the G700 I guess.

High end wireless has been right up there for a while.

I have, and it's not there :-) really nowhere near as good.

you should read up some on the sensors and what performance is being measured etc.
G700 is rather crap, actually. but it depends on what level you play at, and how picky you are, of course. it's not "high end" by any measure, though.

Oh, I'm picky, but at some point, all those stats are just for ego stroking and not actually doing anything for you.
I played FPS for years and did quite well using wireless.

then not picky enough I'd say, the click latency and even just overall latency was far too high, and the sensor of the G700S has some inherent issues (I think it's the Avago 9800? or 9500. both have the same issue) with tracking.

Latency on newer high end mice can almost always be attributed to one of few things.
A hub, interference, or placing the receiver too far away.  It doesn't go down on your (metal) tower, or up next to your monitor (more metal), which seems to be where everyone puts them. The plate in your keyboard can also be an issue or even a drink in the way.

Surface also has an impact as the mouse tries to figure out what's going on, the G700 and G700 doesn't like glass it works, but it's laggy and inconsistent, the MX Performance has no issues with glass, however on certain fabrics, it's worse than the G700S on glass. This can effect wired mice as well, but seems to effect wireless more, probably due to them using lower power processors. I've never seen a mouse (wired or not) that I couldn't induce tracking issues with, even if you ignore glass.

the new G900 has feet like it. it kind of looks like logitech is now stuck using weird shapes like that on all of their mice :-/
edit: well, maybe slightly less weird. but still weird!

Grrr, all those sharp points are just snags waiting to happen, especially if you have to pull them off to open it.

Show Image

fyi, picture taken from this review: http://www.overclock.net/t/1595865/review-of-logitech-g900-chaos-spectrum-wireless-gaming-mouse-by-ino

[iLLucionist]

the new G900 has feet like it. it kind of looks like logitech is now stuck using weird shapes like that on all of their mice :-/
edit: well, maybe slightly less weird. but still weird!

I find the new Logitech mice hideously disgusting. I get that they want to differentiate and distance themselves from other vendors, but I do not want to hold a spaceship sorry.

[munch]

Latency on newer high end mice can almost always be attributed to one of few things.
A hub, interference, or placing the receiver too far away.  It doesn't go down on your (metal) tower, or up next to your monitor (more metal), which seems to be where everyone puts them. The plate in your keyboard can also be an issue or even a drink in the way.

Surface also has an impact as the mouse tries to figure out what's going on, the G700 and G700 doesn't like glass it works, but it's laggy and inconsistent, the MX Performance has no issues with glass, however on certain fabrics, it's worse than the G700S on glass. This can effect wired mice as well, but seems to effect wireless more, probably due to them using lower power processors. I've never seen a mouse (wired or not) that I couldn't induce tracking issues with, even if you ignore glass.

surely, and I've tried G700S as well as G602 (which BTW is a lot better than G700S) - they're alright in lag but didn't measure up with wired. the G900s seems to be many many times faster in the avg user's setups.

the sensor itself is the culprit here, just google Avago 9500 / 9800 problems and you'll find all you need. better on hard surfaces but still not good enough.
it's not consistent in its tracking at different speeds, is the summary of it. it's not considered high end by any means, sorry.

[Leslieann]

surely, and I've tried G700S as well as G602 (which BTW is a lot better than G700S) - they're alright in lag but didn't measure up with wired. the G900s seems to be many many times faster in the avg user's setups.

the sensor itself is the culprit here, just google Avago 9500 / 9800 problems and you'll find all you need. better on hard surfaces but still not good enough.
it's not consistent in its tracking at different speeds, is the summary of it. it's not considered high end by any means, sorry.

Waaaaah... It has acceleration... Cry me a river.

[woll3]

it seems to be the first wireless mouse with performance as good as wired mice

You never looked at the G700 I guess.

High end wireless has been right up there for a while.

I have, and it's not there :-) really nowhere near as good.

you should read up some on the sensors and what performance is being measured etc.
G700 is rather crap, actually. but it depends on what level you play at, and how picky you are, of course. it's not "high end" by any measure, though.

Oh, I'm picky, but at some point, all those stats are just for ego stroking and not actually doing anything for you.
I played FPS for years and did quite well using wireless.

then not picky enough I'd say, the click latency and even just overall latency was far too high, and the sensor of the G700S has some inherent issues (I think it's the Avago 9800? or 9500. both have the same issue) with tracking.

Latency on newer high end mice can almost always be attributed to one of few things.
A hub, interference, or placing the receiver too far away.  It doesn't go down on your (metal) tower, or up next to your monitor (more metal), which seems to be where everyone puts them. The plate in your keyboard can also be an issue or even a drink in the way.

Surface also has an impact as the mouse tries to figure out what's going on, the G700 and G700 doesn't like glass it works, but it's laggy and inconsistent, the MX Performance has no issues with glass, however on certain fabrics, it's worse than the G700S on glass. This can effect wired mice as well, but seems to effect wireless more, probably due to them using lower power processors. I've never seen a mouse (wired or not) that I couldn't induce tracking issues with, even if you ignore glass.

the new G900 has feet like it. it kind of looks like logitech is now stuck using weird shapes like that on all of their mice :-/
edit: well, maybe slightly less weird. but still weird!

Grrr, all those sharp points are just snags waiting to happen, especially if you have to pull them off to open it.

Show Image

fyi, picture taken from this review: http://www.overclock.net/t/1595865/review-of-logitech-g900-chaos-spectrum-wireless-gaming-mouse-by-ino

Or rather bad Firmware and/or Sensor Settings. :>

[munch]

surely, and I've tried G700S as well as G602 (which BTW is a lot better than G700S) - they're alright in lag but didn't measure up with wired. the G900s seems to be many many times faster in the avg user's setups.

the sensor itself is the culprit here, just google Avago 9500 / 9800 problems and you'll find all you need. better on hard surfaces but still not good enough.
it's not consistent in its tracking at different speeds, is the summary of it. it's not considered high end by any means, sorry.

Waaaaah... It has acceleration... Cry me a river.

no need to be rude. it is an issue preventing the sensor from being high end. it makes it rather low-tier instead.

edit: it's not acceleration either, due to its inconsistency. that would be simplifying it.

[Leslieann]

I'm not trying to be rude.
A few people might be able to detect it, but it sure seems a very small minority cry like whiney brats every time a new mouse comes out that has even the smallest bit of acceleration. Many of whom probably can't detect it if they tried.

It's B.S. to claim it's a "bad" sensor because you dislike it. I dislike Red and Black switches, I may as well game with rubber domes for all they do for me, that doesn't mean they are low end or will not offer any other advantages.

[munch]

I'm not trying to be rude.
A few people might be able to detect it, but it sure seems a very small minority cry like whiney brats every time a new mouse comes out that has even the smallest bit of acceleration. Many of whom probably can't detect it if they tried.

It's B.S. to claim it's a "bad" sensor because you dislike it. I dislike Red and Black switches, I may as well game with rubber domes for all they do for me, that doesn't mean they are low end or will not offer any other advantages.

that's just bad argumenting. it's not a minor amount for someone using a low sensitivity, you're most likely a more casual gamer than those who seek out the best. it's likely okay to use for a lot of people, but it still makes it an inferior product. there's entire threads on this here on Geekhack, so it's not like I'm the only one.

bad analogy. and you were rude, no need to excuse it.

[tp4tissue]

I'm not trying to be rude.
A few people might be able to detect it, but it sure seems a very small minority cry like whiney brats every time a new mouse comes out that has even the smallest bit of acceleration. Many of whom probably can't detect it if they tried.

It's B.S. to claim it's a "bad" sensor because you dislike it. I dislike Red and Black switches, I may as well game with rubber domes for all they do for me, that doesn't mean they are low end or will not offer any other advantages.

that's just bad argumenting. it's not a minor amount for someone using a low sensitivity, you're most likely a more casual gamer than those who seek out the best. it's likely okay to use for a lot of people, but it still makes it an inferior product. there's entire threads on this here on Geekhack, so it's not like I'm the only one.

bad analogy. and you were rude, no need to excuse it.

calm down guyz..

Laser sensor has that +/- 5% tracking variation..  This we know.. 

But that's worst case.. it's reduced by making sure you got the proper surface for it.

[munch]

I'm not trying to be rude.
A few people might be able to detect it, but it sure seems a very small minority cry like whiney brats every time a new mouse comes out that has even the smallest bit of acceleration. Many of whom probably can't detect it if they tried.

It's B.S. to claim it's a "bad" sensor because you dislike it. I dislike Red and Black switches, I may as well game with rubber domes for all they do for me, that doesn't mean they are low end or will not offer any other advantages.

that's just bad argumenting. it's not a minor amount for someone using a low sensitivity, you're most likely a more casual gamer than those who seek out the best. it's likely okay to use for a lot of people, but it still makes it an inferior product. there's entire threads on this here on Geekhack, so it's not like I'm the only one.

bad analogy. and you were rude, no need to excuse it.

calm down guyz..

Laser sensor has that +/- 5% tracking variation..  This we know.. 

But that's worst case.. it's reduced by making sure you got the proper surface for it.

yes
if you do fast flicks with lower sensitivity, this will cause you to over and undershoot due to the inconsistency/variability a lot though. no bueno.
but I am sure you know this. even with the proper surface it might still be too much though.

[Bucake]

yes
if you do fast flicks with lower sensitivity, this will cause you to over and undershoot due to the inconsistency/variability a lot though. no bueno.
but I am sure you know this. even with the proper surface it might still be too much though.

i purchased a used G9x today, should arrive next week.
apparently one of the highest variances of all mice, should be fun comparing it to my "normal" mice.. :-)
unless the shape is close to perfect for me, i doubt i'll even actually use it. but when a mouse with "legendary status" comes along for cheap, i just can't help myself, i want to see what the fuss is about.

haven't touched a laser mouse in years though, i bet it'll feel filthy

[tp4tissue]

yes
if you do fast flicks with lower sensitivity, this will cause you to over and undershoot due to the inconsistency/variability a lot though. no bueno.
but I am sure you know this. even with the proper surface it might still be too much though.

i purchased a used G9x today, should arrive next week.
apparently one of the highest variances of all mice, should be fun comparing it to my "normal" mice.. :-)
unless the shape is close to perfect for me, i doubt i'll even actually use it. but when a mouse with "legendary status" comes along for cheap, i just can't help myself, i want to see what the fuss is about.

haven't touched a laser mouse in years though, i bet it'll feel filthy

honestly.. I don't think it's legendary status,

It was really only that "First luxury super mouse" WITH LASERS..

[Leslieann]

I'm not trying to be rude.
A few people might be able to detect it, but it sure seems a very small minority cry like whiney brats every time a new mouse comes out that has even the smallest bit of acceleration. Many of whom probably can't detect it if they tried.

It's B.S. to claim it's a "bad" sensor because you dislike it. I dislike Red and Black switches, I may as well game with rubber domes for all they do for me, that doesn't mean they are low end or will not offer any other advantages.

that's just bad argumenting. it's not a minor amount for someone using a low sensitivity, you're most likely a more casual gamer than those who seek out the best. it's likely okay to use for a lot of people, but it still makes it an inferior product. there's entire threads on this here on Geekhack, so it's not like I'm the only one.

bad analogy. and you were rude, no need to excuse it.

Low res may be the issue, I use high sensitivity, often as high as I can get. And no, I was not a casual gamer (yes a girl who games!), I was playing COD, L4D2, the BF series and a few others pretty heavily and scoring near the top of the charts regularly (and accused of using aimbots quite a bit). I cannot stand low res.

You said it yourself it's low res users, the world has moved on. 
What will you do on a 4k monitor, use your whole desk to move across a quarter of your screen?  )

And some of you need to lighten up, you are taking this far too seriously.

[munch]

I'm not trying to be rude.
A few people might be able to detect it, but it sure seems a very small minority cry like whiney brats every time a new mouse comes out that has even the smallest bit of acceleration. Many of whom probably can't detect it if they tried.

It's B.S. to claim it's a "bad" sensor because you dislike it. I dislike Red and Black switches, I may as well game with rubber domes for all they do for me, that doesn't mean they are low end or will not offer any other advantages.

that's just bad argumenting. it's not a minor amount for someone using a low sensitivity, you're most likely a more casual gamer than those who seek out the best. it's likely okay to use for a lot of people, but it still makes it an inferior product. there's entire threads on this here on Geekhack, so it's not like I'm the only one.

bad analogy. and you were rude, no need to excuse it.

Low res may be the issue, I use high sensitivity, often as high as I can get. And no, I was not a casual gamer (yes a girl who games!), I was playing COD, L4D2, the BF series and a few others pretty heavily and scoring near the top of the charts regularly (and accused of using aimbots quite a bit). I cannot stand low res.

You said it yourself it's low res users, the world has moved on. 
What will you do on a 4k monitor, use your whole desk to move across a quarter of your screen?  )

And some of you need to lighten up, you are taking this far too seriously.

I didn't know you were a girl nor does it actually matter here (nor should anyone care. plenty of girls game). whether it worked or not for you is not the issue here, it is simply that it is an inferior product with issues. if high end is dictated by price and listed specs... well sure, but it's not better in real world use.
the resolution is not the issue, it's the fact that if you move your mouse fast, it will be variable results each time even if you move it the same amount. can't rely on muscle memory the same way.

I'm wondering who's taking it too seriously here... you seem very keen on defending your product. it's a discussion board, this is what you're supposed to do. if you don't want to, just stay out of it.

still bad analogy, and I did not mention resolution on screens? DPI was used just as a measure of sensitivity in this case, if you use high DPI your mouse will move further.

I have used plenty of 4K screens and I don't mind using DPI at 800-1600 or whatever, now you're just exaggerating and being a jerk for no reason. jitter is an issue with higher DPI but that's an entirely different topic.
enough trolling.

[clacktalk]

I'm not trying to be rude.
A few people might be able to detect it, but it sure seems a very small minority cry like whiney brats every time a new mouse comes out that has even the smallest bit of acceleration. Many of whom probably can't detect it if they tried.

It's B.S. to claim it's a "bad" sensor because you dislike it. I dislike Red and Black switches, I may as well game with rubber domes for all they do for me, that doesn't mean they are low end or will not offer any other advantages.

that's just bad argumenting. it's not a minor amount for someone using a low sensitivity, you're most likely a more casual gamer than those who seek out the best. it's likely okay to use for a lot of people, but it still makes it an inferior product. there's entire threads on this here on Geekhack, so it's not like I'm the only one.

bad analogy. and you were rude, no need to excuse it.

Low res may be the issue, I use high sensitivity, often as high as I can get. And no, I was not a casual gamer (yes a girl who games!), I was playing COD, L4D2, the BF series and a few others pretty heavily and scoring near the top of the charts regularly (and accused of using aimbots quite a bit). I cannot stand low res.

You said it yourself it's low res users, the world has moved on. 
What will you do on a 4k monitor, use your whole desk to move across a quarter of your screen?  )

And some of you need to lighten up, you are taking this far too seriously.

I didn't know you were a girl nor does it actually matter here (nor should anyone care. plenty of girls game). whether it worked or not for you is not the issue here, it is simply that it is an inferior product with issues. if high end is dictated by price and listed specs... well sure, but it's not better in real world use.
the resolution is not the issue, it's the fact that if you move your mouse fast, it will be variable results each time even if you move it the same amount. can't rely on muscle memory the same way.

I'm wondering who's taking it too seriously here... you seem very keen on defending your product.

still bad analogy, and I did not mention resolution on screens? DPI was used just as a measure of sensitivity in this case, if you use high DPI your mouse will move further.

I have used plenty of 4K screens and I don't mind using DPI at 800-1600 or whatever, now you're just exaggerating and being a jerk for no reason. jitter is an issue with higher DPI but that's an entirely different topic.
enough trolling.

**** can u sign my mousepad or something

i think i'm fangirling hard rn

[tp4tissue]

I didn't know you were a girl nor does it actually matter here (nor should anyone care. plenty of girls game). whether it worked or not for you is not the issue here, it is simply that it is an inferior product with issues. if high end is dictated by price and listed specs... well sure, but it's not better in real world use.
the resolution is not the issue, it's the fact that if you move your mouse fast, it will be variable results each time even if you move it the same amount. can't rely on muscle memory the same way.

I'm wondering who's taking it too seriously here... you seem very keen on defending your product. it's a discussion board, this is what you're supposed to do. if you don't want to, just stay out of it.

still bad analogy, and I did not mention resolution on screens? DPI was used just as a measure of sensitivity in this case, if you use high DPI your mouse will move further.

I have used plenty of 4K screens and I don't mind using DPI at 800-1600 or whatever, now you're just exaggerating and being a jerk for no reason. jitter is an issue with higher DPI but that's an entirely different topic.
enough trolling.

Munch..

In my opinion... Given the dearth of females on the internet...  Feel free to just buckle and simply agree to whatever her demands  are..

That's the Internet way..

[iLLucionist]

Back to the G900... what IS special about this mouse besides the price point? I read in some reviews that battery life is good but not great either. What has this mouse coming for us? Anybody has it around here?

[xtrafrood]

Can't you turn off the acceleration in most modern mice? I guess people really like the sensor

http://www.overclock.net/t/1565518/pmw3366-why-do-you-exist

[iLLucionist]

Can't you turn off the acceleration is most modern mice? I guess people really like the sensor

http://www.overclock.net/t/1565518/pmw3366-why-do-you-exist

I'm only aware of disabling acceleration in the OS or perhaps on the firmware of a mouse. But I guess you cannot do much when it is inherent to the sensor used?

[tp4tissue]

Can't you turn off the acceleration is most modern mice? I guess people really like the sensor

http://www.overclock.net/t/1565518/pmw3366-why-do-you-exist

I'm only aware of disabling acceleration in the OS or perhaps on the firmware of a mouse. But I guess you cannot do much when it is inherent to the sensor used?

you can disable acceleration in the Newest mice..

but , are you talking about angle snapping, or acceleration..

[xtrafrood]

Can't you turn off the acceleration is most modern mice? I guess people really like the sensor

http://www.overclock.net/t/1565518/pmw3366-why-do-you-exist

I'm only aware of disabling acceleration in the OS or perhaps on the firmware of a mouse. But I guess you cannot do much when it is inherent to the sensor used?

you can disable acceleration in the Newest mice..

but , are you talking about angle snapping, or acceleration..

*taps microphone* um, I believe I am talking about acceleration? Teach me senpai

[iLLucionist]

Can't you turn off the acceleration is most modern mice? I guess people really like the sensor

http://www.overclock.net/t/1565518/pmw3366-why-do-you-exist

I'm only aware of disabling acceleration in the OS or perhaps on the firmware of a mouse. But I guess you cannot do much when it is inherent to the sensor used?

you can disable acceleration in the Newest mice..

but , are you talking about angle snapping, or acceleration..

*taps microphone* um, I believe I am talking about acceleration? Teach me senpai

I was referring to mouse acceleration. But if I look in my Mionix Avior 7000 control center I can also adjust angle snapping.

[tp4tissue]

Can't you turn off the acceleration is most modern mice? I guess people really like the sensor

http://www.overclock.net/t/1565518/pmw3366-why-do-you-exist

I'm only aware of disabling acceleration in the OS or perhaps on the firmware of a mouse. But I guess you cannot do much when it is inherent to the sensor used?

you can disable acceleration in the Newest mice..

but , are you talking about angle snapping, or acceleration..

*taps microphone* um, I believe I am talking about acceleration? Teach me senpai

angle snapping is when the mouse draws straight lines when it should be diagonal.

Acceleration is tracking error, when the mouse over or under shoots.

[tp4tissue]

I was referring to mouse acceleration. But if I look in my Mionix Avior 7000 control center I can also adjust angle snapping.

The angle snapping is not adjustable on every mouse depending on sensor,  but acceleration generally can be disabled on most mice.

[iLLucionist]

Now that I come to think of it, the G900S uses the same PWM3366 as is in the G502 right? Are there any other mice coming or available already with the PWM3336 sensor?

[xtrafrood]

Can't you turn off the acceleration is most modern mice? I guess people really like the sensor

http://www.overclock.net/t/1565518/pmw3366-why-do-you-exist

I'm only aware of disabling acceleration in the OS or perhaps on the firmware of a mouse. But I guess you cannot do much when it is inherent to the sensor used?

you can disable acceleration in the Newest mice..

but , are you talking about angle snapping, or acceleration..

*taps microphone* um, I believe I am talking about acceleration? Teach me senpai

angle snapping is when the mouse draws straight lines when it should be diagonal.

Acceleration is tracking error, when the mouse over or under shoots.

alright, thank you

[Leslieann]

I didn't know you were a girl

Yes, I hide it so well, what with the name and avatar.

I only mentioned it because you said the most common phrase women hear when they say they play games, that it's only "casual games". Sorry, we don't all play Candy Crush. It was not bragging or trolling, what you said came off as extremely sexist, intentional or not.

Sorry if I don't fit your idea of a gamer, some of us don't do things the normal way, but occasional we can still kick ass at it even if we break the rules.

[munch]

Can't you turn off the acceleration is most modern mice? I guess people really like the sensor

http://www.overclock.net/t/1565518/pmw3366-why-do-you-exist

I'm only aware of disabling acceleration in the OS or perhaps on the firmware of a mouse. But I guess you cannot do much when it is inherent to the sensor used?

you can disable acceleration in the Newest mice..

but , are you talking about angle snapping, or acceleration..

*taps microphone* um, I believe I am talking about acceleration? Teach me senpai

angle snapping is when the mouse draws straight lines when it should be diagonal.

Acceleration is tracking error, when the mouse over or under shoots.

alright, thank you

let me explain it to you here:
the "acceleration" that Leslieann was talking about is not actually acceleration, it's a sensor error that makes the movement different each time, even if you do identical movement on the pad, same place on the pad, same speed etc.
it's called speed-related accuracy variance (SRAV- term coined by Logitech's team I think but it makes more sense that way).
with normal acceleration, same speed and movement would get you to the same spot both times, because of a set acceleration curve.

hope that explains it better.

actual well-implemented acceleration is fine, many professional players use it and do really well. but when it's SRAV it's just no bueno.

[munch]

I didn't know you were a girl

Yes, I hide it so well, what with the name and avatar.

I only mentioned it because you said the most common phrase women hear when they say they play games, that it's only "casual games". Sorry, we don't all play Candy Crush. It was not bragging or trolling, what you said came off as extremely sexist, intentional or not.

Sorry if I don't fit your idea of a gamer, some of us don't do things the normal way, but occasional we can still kick ass at it even if we break the rules.

that's bull****. I said it because of the way you appear to play the games (or rather what mouse you use). actually I apologize for this one because some pros can do well with flawed mice as well. not G700/G700S though for latency reasons.
not because of your sex. you're the one who's sexist, against your own sex. wow. just don't.
just quit it, and discuss mice instead. thank you.

I don't care how good you are at games or not, the mouse is still flawed. some people do well with flawed mice, doesn't make it a good mouse. (in terms of sensor performance and latency, for G700/G700S at least)
get back on topic.

also let me clarify: casual vs competitive, not "hardcore". sorry if that caused any confusion, that's how I group the two. perhaps not correct though.

[tp4tissue]

Now that I come to think of it, the G900S uses the same PWM3366 as is in the G502 right? Are there any other mice coming or available already with the PWM3336 sensor?

Logitech Exclusive deal with pixart..

But I think that 1 year agreement expires soon.

[munch]

Now that I come to think of it, the G900S uses the same PWM3366 as is in the G502 right? Are there any other mice coming or available already with the PWM3336 sensor?

Logitech Exclusive deal with pixart..

But I think that 1 year agreement expires soon.

G502 has been out for more than a year no? soon 2 years?

the 3360 appears to be very similar, not sure if as-good though.