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[Findecanor]

OMFG. The stupendous ignorance of that idiot is without bounds.

Expect massive criticism from world leaders the following week.
Expect massive protests outside US embassies today, and the following week.
Expect unrest, and danger for US citizens (and to some extent every white person) in the Middle East when we have seen steps towards this action happening.

If the US goes through with this, this could escalate to real danger.

[tp4tissue]

OMFG. The stupendous ignorance of that idiot is without bounds.

Expect massive criticism from world leaders the following week.
Expect massive protests outside US embassies today, and the following week.
Expect unrest, and danger for US citizens (and to some extent every white person) in the Middle East when we have seen steps towards this action happening.

If the US goes through with this, this could escalate to real danger.

- World leaders are exactly like Trump, they say things, and then sign whatever the corporations tell them to sign.

- There will always be someone protesting something

- Yup, Tp4 fully braced for more 9/11s, Moved out of the city.


- The only thing any singular human truly needs to understand is that Animal agriculture is the root cause to 95% of the world's problems.
- Eating 100% Veggie will fix nearly all of it.

[fohat.digs]

in the Middle East when we have seen steps towards this

My perspective is that the greatest divide is economic rather than racial (aka "religious" .... ).

I suspect that rich Muslims and rich Jews (and rich white people) have absolutely no problem co-existing, and that the oil-wealthy kings of the region would love to have only enough poor people in their countries to do the manual labor required to maintain their lifestyles.

TP4 will say that this is true globally, and he may be right. But with the population explosion of recent decades (world population has more than tripled in my lifetime) has created an imbalance that is not tenable.

[tp4tissue]

Going deeper, the core limitation is that consciousness happens on-top of real-hardware.

Consciousness is a model, like our economy. Its evolved task is to seek favorable conditions for the survival / replication of the "Bacterial Colony" which constitutes each human being.

Micro-organisms make up 3% of our mass, but in cell count, they outnumber human cells 10 to 1, these microorganisms are also the MAJORITY in diversity of DNA, of which are NONE-Human.

EVEN within our bodies, we are not wholly ourselves. You can argue each person is mostly NON-human.


Consciousness takes shortcuts. That's the only way it works within the hardware limits. So, we BELIEVE in lots of shortcuts about Who and What we are.


Hardware limits are pervasive at the human consciousness level, AS THEY ARE at the human-governmental-societal level.


The trouble of Modernity is that we devote consciousness to the Maintenance of EXTRAVAGANT EXCESS. Wars are not fought over NEEDS, they're fought over excess in all its forms, wealth(stuff), money(fiat), fame/esteem, power.


Human societies as most people understand them are an extremely shallow concept of reality. 

A ruler does not rule, he's merely REACTING to the momentums around him so as to not be KILLED by it.  Chinese idiom, The palace is its own ruler, The king merely plays his part.



At this point in our ecological juncture.  We've maxed out on the externalized costs of our wants/needs.  If we don't stop immediately, Nature will reboot.


Tp4 does not believe humans will make it. Short of alien involvement.  Aliens who figured it out, before their cataclysm. 



Locusts are not born to stop eating, maybe the few Crazy Defective locusts like Tp4, be like, Hai guys, I think we've eaten enough today, maybe we should let this here grass grow back a little, and then eat it in a couple days.

Then LocustP4 dies, because the other locusts ate everything that he was saving for tomorrow. Finally ALL locusts die as they exhaust the food supply.


As will all mankind perish as we exhaust the Ecology of Earth.   


How remarkably stupid of humans, Our Epitaph, Cause of extinction, --Herbivores who refused to eat vegetables..

We're fast becoming the biggest damn joke in the Galaxy.

You' hear that one about the humans? What about the humans ?  They went extinct because they wouldn't eat vegetables. What? Aren't they Herbivores?,  YEA they were !!!  HAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

There were these-guyzus called Trumps, and they just ate these things called hamburders until it got everyone killed...

[fohat.digs]

The stupendous ignorance of that idiot is without bounds.

These guys must also be proud of their leadership vision.

https://www.muslimnetwork.tv/muslim-leaders-call-for-boycott-of-harris-over-supporting-israel/

[Findecanor]

Of course, Trumps words about Gaza has got massive criticism from around the world.
Right now, Trump's press secretary is in mitigation mode, trying to downplay and change the meaning of what Trump had said. It's laughable.

[tp4tissue]

The United states was going to support israel no matter what.

WHAT IS Israel.  Land of the Jews, No it's not,  it's a vassal state taken by foreign invasion/genocide that strictly genuflects to American Capitalist Rule.

The Jewish people are assuming their historically consistent position, as captains / subjugators, hand of the King, middle-east edition.

This might be a nice, enviable position when we the America King's doing well, and is powerful, but it's a stupidly DANGEROUS position when the King is SICK and no longer rules the world. Our America today can barely take care of the people at home. Homelessness, school shootings, tickytock, media poison, run-away pollution, unhinged capitalism, climate catastrophe.

If you take a look at the statistics/maps, for a large swath of Europe + middle east region, Islam is the 2nd most populous religion behind Christianity.

So, unless the Zionists believe they can kill them all by themselves, it only takes a tiny over-reach and they will get wiped.


The US will show up in the Newcycle in Support of Israel, but push comes to shove WE NO LONGER HAVE THE ABSOLUTE POWER we did post WW2 when we were the only technologically advanced nation with Super Weapons, AND, Effective DELIVERY of Super weapons (Bombers/logistics).

LOOK AT UKRAINE,  We installed, supported Zelenskyy's whole regime,  how's it going for them. Where are the American troops. Why couldn't we defeat the INFERIOR Russian Military.


Push comes to shove, Israel is very small, it is VERY easy to build Dirty-type WMDs to destroy such a place and make it virtually unlivable. Any one committed enough can build them. And they can do so at very low cost.  It would not take very much to cripple a small country such as Israel.


If we wanted this to work, we should abolish all religion. That is the only way to maintain absolute American hierarchy.

Look at what China's been able to do. No religious bull****. Efficiency is through the roof.

[fohat.digs]

Re-watched this for the first time in some years. All the details are different, as are the players and the issues, but the underlying movement is horrifyingly similar to our situation today.

PS - Look for the cameos of Drumpf's mentor, Roy Cohn.

[noisyturtle]

People who protest need to realize how ineffectual and pointless it is. When you protest outside of whatever government or business building it does nothing but provide entertainment for those inside, you are a joke to them. You taking days off work to stand in the cold holding a sign in the dead of Winter makes your point of view lose credence and you look like a wacko. What valuable member of society has the time and patience to abuse themselves for a handful of reporters who will get a small blurb on page 12 that no one will read?
Enact change, don't waste time begging in the street expecting that to work. Stop talking and standing around. Do something.

[fohat.digs]

"In fact, since his second term began, Trump has only uttered ​​the word “food” six times when speaking at a political rally or to reporters.
He hasn't said the word “eggs” since he was sworn in."

- Morgan Stephens 2025-02-10
 

[chyros]

This guy is gonna kill everyone on the planet with his insane climate policies. Other world leaders are losing enthusiasm for climate policies as well now.

[tp4tissue]

This guy is gonna kill everyone on the planet with his insane climate policies. Other world leaders are losing enthusiasm for climate policies as well now.

The only climate policy that makes any difference is one's own policy to eat meat.

Nothing short of ending animal agriculture is enough.

[fohat.digs]

Other world leaders are losing enthusiasm for climate policies as well now.

I hope that people around the world understand that most of the 49% of American voters who put these monsters in control of our country are simply stupid and gullible, and that they fell for the greatest swindle in history.

[TomahawkLabs]

Other world leaders are losing enthusiasm for climate policies as well now.

I hope that people around the world understand that most of the 49% of American voters who put these monsters in control of our country are simply stupid and gullible, and that they fell for the greatest swindle in history.

Its a lot like if the EU voted on an EU representative and despite the UK, and 80% of other countries voting one way decade after decade, it boils down to Greece, Poland, and Italy flipping between Liberal and conservative parties every other cycle. The same states that voted for Biden, flipped their votes to Trump. Our federal govt is 100% picked by Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Those 3 states (generally) hold the power to elect our President.

[tp4tissue]

Our federal govt is 100% picked by Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Those 3 states (generally) hold the power to elect our President.

IDK if it's that simple, but that's Drug Addicts, morons, morons, in that order, so it can't be good.

[TomahawkLabs]

Our federal govt is 100% picked by Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Those 3 states (generally) hold the power to elect our President.

IDK if it's that simple, but that's Drug Addicts, morons, morons, in that order, so it can't be good.

Until a new state flips one way or the other, OR we change how we do our electoral collage, those 3 plus a few others to less importance, are the only path to victory. A republican will likely win in California in the same way Texas will never elect a democrat president.

[fohat.digs]

we change how we do our electoral collage

Then there is this:  https://videopress.com/v/JgBYFHmS

[tp4tissue]

we change how we do our electoral collage

Then there is this:  https://videopress.com/v/JgBYFHmS

It's not just the government.

It's the entirety of human imperialist culture.

Our concept of LIFE as human beings is to Be-as-selfish-as-humanly-possible.

No change to the organizational structure of the government will alter the course of humanity.  The current CORE of mankind is rotten.  We are Amidst EXTINCTION.  The Anthropocene is happening as we speak.

The entirety of our economy is dedicated to Resource extraction, which is largely just Burning and Killing.

And we ONLY quantify that which we BURN and KILL.   All other things, living things, the clean air, the clean water are Externalities. So if we do not quantify those things, We can not save them.  This system we have can only produce a Singular-Outcome.





The core largely REWARDS selfish action. And those who get ahead in this system, further Alters the system to maintain that resource/power lead.

You can say, this process is a built in safety mechanism such that NO species can destroy the whole of the planet, the Diversity of genetics, trees, other animals, seeds, etc will remain to some degree, and HUMANITY was Always Destined to burn itself out.


Possibly.   But people must recognize that this is not a democrat vs republican issue, it's not a US vs Russia thing.  That is the only way Oligarchs see the world, MINE, and MINE, They are Sick, genetically speaking.


At our core, we are all Discendents of psychopathic Dictators.

Genghis, Alexander, these *******s were a cancerous anomaly.  Psychopaths are anomalies. The amount of rape and pillage they did, approximately up to 10% of world population are their descendants.

Most likely we all have some % of their genes.


The worst news is that it is unlikely we can rise above our genes. So, once cancer takes root, that's the end for that organism.


Take solace in that Nature will persist even if Man can not..



Not saying don't try, but it's almost certainly too late.

[tp4tissue]

Fohat.dig is extremely polluted by social media.  Social media which frames the world in good guys vs bad guys.

Relative to the ecosystem, and the 80 billion animals we slaughter each year, even though we are biologically Herbivores, There are only Bad guys.



If mankind can't be bothered to eat vegetables, this whole debate/life thing, just stop trying.  There is no wealth safe from ecocide, whatever store of value or continuance one perceives in children,  they're stranded assets.

[tp4tissue]

Humanity is largely like Hitler in the last days at the bunker, pushing around pieces on the board which no longer exist.




The only thing that can save mankind is to Eat 100% Veggies Immediately. It is in the interest of everyone and everything,  EVEN if you're a dictator, FINE, be a dictator, but be a dictator that eats 100% Veggies, or there will be no world to dictate to..

[noisyturtle]

Eat 100% Veggies

I'd rather eat the rich

[tp4tissue]

Eat 100% Veggies

I'd rather eat the rich

Wouldn't help, New Rich will replace them.

People only understand eat the rich largely as, if I eat them, I will myself become rich, THIS IS TRUE, but then you will destroy the world all the same. At best, you can be temporary king of the Burning House everyone's in. Ashes all the same.

Eat veggies.

[chyros]

Other world leaders are losing enthusiasm for climate policies as well now.

I hope that people around the world understand that most of the 49% of American voters who put these monsters in control of our country are simply stupid and gullible, and that they fell for the greatest swindle in history.

I think so, or at least I do. But that doesn't really matter I'm afraid, in a first-past-the-post system . The result is the same as if everybody voted for him.

[tp4tissue]

I think so, or at least I do. But that doesn't really matter I'm afraid, in a first-past-the-post system . The result is the same as if everybody voted for him.

Democracy is mathematically impossible. Everyone has seen the video, well, edumacated people at least. 

Governance isn't the problem.  It's Culture.  Look at our media, our games, books, movies, music.

Sex, Killing, Gluttony. Our entire way of life is just variations on those 3 themes.  Humanity is doomed because our culture is cancerous.

[noisyturtle]

Eat 100% Veggies

I'd rather eat the rich

Wouldn't help, New Rich will replace them.

People only understand eat the rich largely as, if I eat them, I will myself become rich, THIS IS TRUE, but then you will destroy the world all the same. At best, you can be temporary king of the Burning House everyone's in. Ashes all the same.

Eat veggies.

You do not understand the concept here. Fear of losing everything is the only language they understand, because the only thing they care about is their personal wealth and amassing more. You really think if 2 people walk into a room and their heads roll out, the next person in line is going into that room? **** no.
Being ultra wealthy and selfish should be a risk to your personal health, and it is our duty to put that fear into their hearts for the sake of humanities future.

[fohat.digs]

The result is the same as if everybody voted for him.

This is the horrifying tragedy of it all.

Our system of government has all these little sub-system "winner takes all" gotchas that can accumulate into a result that is not at all what the majority of the population wants and needs.

[tp4tissue]

You do not understand the concept here. Fear of losing everything is the only language they understand, because the only thing they care about is their personal wealth and amassing more. You really think if 2 people walk into a room and their heads roll out, the next person in line is going into that room? **** no.
Being ultra wealthy and selfish should be a risk to your personal health, and it is our duty to put that fear into their hearts for the sake of humanities future.

Fear of losing everything is the only language YOU-understand too.

If you eat the rich. You will replace them, and do the exact bad things they did. You have not addressed the CORE problem which is Eating Veggies.


Eating veggies, no one needs to BE RICH, ever again.

[TomahawkLabs]

I think "rich" isn't even the issue. It's when the rich use their rich to twist reality and bend laws to suit them, while taking more than can be justified while telling the poor they are the problem. I have never had an issue with a person who works at the company they started/are at who puts in an honest day and reaps rewards. What I take issue with is the rich who change local/state/federal law to allow them to exploit average people for financial gain/political power. I also take issue with the rich who decide because they "own" something, they should receive all proceed, despite putting in no work/labor themselves. If you are a professional vacationer who complains about lack of profit/cost of labor, but don't actually work a full week at the company, your complaints will fall on deaf ears.

Elon is the perfect example. He somehow has time to run a govt agency, also lead a space transport company, and an EV company that also does battery and solar solutions, also a company that makes dumb products for tech bros, and at the same time be rank 1 in the US for a video game. But gets pissy when a judge doesn't think he deserves a payout of an additional $56 billion, with a b dollars for his "work" at Tesla.

[noisyturtle]

Goes without saying, being rich does not make you inherently evil. It's not a blanket statement, I am expecting you all to use your brains and logic to understand what specific rich people and behaviors I am talking about. You just can't expect people to use their brains anymore, everyone takes everything at face value with zero self-reflection or research. Which is exactly what the WRONG types of rich people are betting on by controlling the news and information.

[fohat.digs]

I am reading Isaacson's book about him (Musk) now, about halfway through.

He really is all those things, and more. He is utterly without empathy or sympathy, truly more animal than human. All the harm he does is merely collateral damage in his quest for control of the future.

[fohat.digs]

Yeah, Baby, Yeah!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-napoleon-quote-rod-steiger-b2699314.html

Sweet!

https://tenney.house.gov/media/press-releases/congresswoman-tenney-moves-make-president-trumps-birthday-federal-holiday

[chyros]

I mean who builds a World Trade Centre in the path of hijacked planes anyway? I could've settled this with no loss of buildings at all!

[fohat.digs]

I could've settled this with no loss

It must be even harder for non-Americans to understand than it is for us, but there are literally millions of people here who truly and profoundly believe that whatever comes out of his mouth is the unvarnished truth.

And believe the corollary - that anyone who says otherwise is "just plain wrong" ....

[chyros]

I could've settled this with no loss

It must be even harder for non-Americans to understand than it is for us, but there are literally millions of people here who truly and profoundly believe that whatever comes out of his mouth is the unvarnished truth.

And believe the corollary - that anyone who says otherwise is "just plain wrong" ....

Not gonna lie, it is a somewhat surreal experience, yes.

[noisyturtle]

This is the 3rd story in as many days I have read about an arrest made for someone expressing a negative opinion about the Trump administration.
This is a very dangerous trend people need to be paying attention to. Free speech and expression is exactly that, not living in fear of retaliation by expressing your views.
Some sick **** going on.

[noisyturtle]

I could've settled this with no loss

It must be even harder for non-Americans to understand than it is for us, but there are literally millions of people here who truly and profoundly believe that whatever comes out of his mouth is the unvarnished truth.

And believe the corollary - that anyone who says otherwise is "just plain wrong" ....

I'm American and I don't even believe that.

[tp4tissue]

You're talking about the species that CRUCIFIED Jesus Christ, for being vegan.  Then continued to pervert Christianity to sell blessings on sacrificial animals FOR PROFIT.

Why is anyone surprised.

[chyros]

wat

[fohat.digs]

Republicans try to mix religion and politics. Like oil and water but without any emulsifiers available.

TP4 is pointing out that Jesus would be appalled to see what contemporary American "Christians" are doing in his name.

[tp4tissue]

Republicans try to mix religion and politics. Like oil and water but without any emulsifiers available.

TP4 is pointing out that Jesus would be appalled to see what contemporary American "Christians" are doing in his name.

Jesus was an actual Vegan, and that's why he died.

Religion already had within its grasp, 100% Veggie, which would rectify nearly everything wrong with mankind.

But of course, we all know the story, The meat-eaters won, Paul specifically, and they hung Jesus Vegan Christ on the Crucifix. After which, they proceeded to cook the books, and went with the narrative,  MANKIND is the center of God's Universe,  All the animals are here for you to enslave and butcher and eat.

The Holy Temple's main Revenue at around this time period was the Selling/Trading/ Butchering of Sacrificial animals. Priests were up to their knees in a River of blood.  Well documented. It was a non stop kill fest all day long on temple grounds.


Jesus Died for our Sins,  That Sin was Animal Agriculture, Greed and Slaughter.

[fohat.digs]

“Exclusive: US could cut Ukraine's access to Starlink internet services over minerals, say sources.
U.S. negotiators pressing Kyiv for access to Ukraine's critical minerals have raised the possibility of cutting the country's access to Elon Musk's vital Starlink satellite internet system, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.
Ukraine's continued access to SpaceX-owned Starlink was brought up in discussions between U.S. and Ukrainian officials after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy turned down an initial proposal from U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, the sources said.”

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-could-cut-ukraines-access-starlink-internet-services-over-minerals-say-2025-02-22/

[tp4tissue]

“Exclusive: US could cut Ukraine's access to Starlink internet services over minerals, say sources.
U.S. negotiators pressing Kyiv for access to Ukraine's critical minerals have raised the possibility of cutting the country's access to Elon Musk's vital Starlink satellite internet system, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.
Ukraine's continued access to SpaceX-owned Starlink was brought up in discussions between U.S. and Ukrainian officials after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy turned down an initial proposal from U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, the sources said.”

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-could-cut-ukraines-access-starlink-internet-services-over-minerals-say-2025-02-22/

Short term, This is the best thing for the Ukrainian people,  Rulers come and go,  farmers are still farmers,  but they're LIVING farmers, not Dead Farmers, who died for no reason, unless an arbitrary line that humans imagined on the ground is a good enough reason to die for,  Rulers think so,  farmers though? farmer's children?. 

The current Ukrainian oligarchs who will get the high rise window treatment, because that's how Pu7in is.

LONG TERM,  Eastern Europe is going into chaos. We are already seeing large discussions on them building up/buying Nuclear arsenal. WHICH IS STUPID as you can't use them against Russia. It would also do nothing to Deter Russian Invasion.

The problem with nuclear weapons is No One can reasonably use them, it's suicide.  So you either live under dictatorship, or you go out heroic, and suicide everyone in your country.

Look at it this way,  Does any president speak for the entire nation?  Would you rather our president suicide America, just to take out Russia?  Or vice versa, would the Russian people want Pu7in to suicide Russia just to take out America?

You see how Super Weapons don't actually do anything, other than increase pollution and our own existential risk when the inevitable Containment failure happens.

The closest USA ever came to using a nuclear missile, was Nuking itself when our own missile silo blew up, due to a fallen repair nut which punctured the oxygen tank of the missile.. Thankfully the warhead did not trigger. They found it in a ditch blown yards away. Bill Clinton's State at the time.   

[noisyturtle]

When Trump dies of a massive heart attack in office, it would make me sooooo happy if everyone in the country wore this jacket:

[fohat.digs]

I hear you, but "not caring" is far from the reality. EVERYBODY would  "care"  although probably in very different ways.

I used to think that Bowman (aka JDVance) would oust Drumpf quickly, but now I realize that the longer he is in, and the more damage he does quickly, the easier it will be for the successor to distance himself from the blame.

[fohat.digs]

[chyros]

Welp, I guess we can now add racketeering, extorion and war profiteering to the list (pretty sure breaking promises was already on it).

I can't even imagine what a US WW2 vet would be feeling right now, to go from a country that was unanimously considered the "good guy" to the direct opposite. Imagine Roosevelt, right in the middle of the war, doubling back on his word and openly joining Hitler, then extorting France and the UK.

[fohat.digs]

I can't even imagine what a US WW2 vet would be feeling right now

I hear you. Growing up in the 1950s, for most of the men in my life WW2 was the defining event of their lives. My father and uncle were in the Army Air Force, and although my father was never in much actual danger, my uncle was a true hero in some of the worst conflicts of the war, and won several medals for outstanding bravery in the Mediterranean theater. He came very close to losing his life many times.

Seeing January 6th rioters carrying swastika flags inside the US Capitol building would have been beyond traumatic for them.
 

[chyros]

Seeing January 6th rioters carrying swastika flags inside the US Capitol building would have been beyond traumatic for them.

Oh man, I didn't even think of that one. Yeah, I can't even imagine how that would hit.

[kurplop]

Seeing January 6th rioters carrying swastika flags inside the US Capitol building would have been beyond traumatic for them.

Oh man, I didn't even think of that one. Yeah, I can't even imagine how that would hit.

Some, either ignore or conveniently forgot the context of the preceding year. The riots, attacks, and destruction on both private and public property (including federal buildings, police stations, etc.) set the stage where almost no lawlessness from the left was prosecuted. While I absolutely condemn some of the illegal activity on Jan 6th, I believe the prior year’s assault on the law was a much greater attack on the country and its constitution.

[fohat.digs]

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