^ Second. There is just no comparison when it comes to the quality of the parts on a Topre board. People can argue all they want, but the quality is just there. Anyone who says the quality isn't there is flat-out lying, or feigning ignorance, for whatever reason (probably so they have a reason to bash Topre in order to feel better about themselves).
I mean, there's a straight-up comparison in this youtube video:
Where a Topre is compared to a Majestouch. If you can't see the difference in the build quality, you're kidding yourselves. And someone said earler, the Topre wasn't that much better than a Ducky, in terms of build quality? You've gotta be kidding.
Again, I don't know how many times I've said this, over, and over, here in the thread. I DO NOT CARE IF PEOPLE PREFER CHERRY BOARDS OVER TOPRE. THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE. IF PEOPLE TRY BOTH, AND LIKE CHERRY BOARDS, I DO NOT GIVE A ****. THE ISSUE IS MISINFORMATION. SAYING TOPRES ARE NOT BETTER BUILT THAN CHERRY BOARDS IS FALSE. SAYING TOPRES ARE MERELY RUBBER DOMES IS FALSE.
And let's get another thing clear. THIS IS A THREAD ON TOPRE BOARDS. YET, IT WAS PEOPLE WHO PREFER CHERRY BOARDS WHO INSISTED ON CHIMING IN WITH OFF-TOPIC, -FALSE- CRITICISMS OF TOPRE BOARDS. THIS IS AN INDICATION THE ISSUE IS WITH THE FEW NUMBSKULL CHERRY FANS. I'M NOT SAYING ALL CHERRY FANS ARE NUMBSKULLS. I AM SAYING CHERRY FANS WHO BARGE INTO TOPRE TOPICS IN ORDER TO BASH TOPRE BOARDS FOR NO REASON AT ALL ARE NUMBSKULLS.
Finally,
What do you think those plungers do? They push down and collapse rubber domes. There are plenty of separate plunger based membrane boards. It is not why Topre feel the way they do. They use a poppy rubber domes on a PCB (please ignore the 5g force spring). It is fine you like it and all, but you're making it sound like something it is not. Spade is a spade, no matter how well or how it is made. Remind me of an argument I had with a girl about whether flavored water is water.
=) You make all these car analogies, and then you go on to say, you can't differentiate products based on build quality? Now... that's just silly. A car is a car, yet... there is a big difference, as you say, between a Rolls-Royce, and a Camry. A keyboard is a keyboard, but... a Topre isn't quite the same as a typical rubber dome.
I like how you suggest the spring underneath Topre boards should be ignored... because they shouldn't, because they actually, you know, make a difference in feel? Do you not notice the spring back action on Topre keys when you press on them? Yea... that's the springs working. I'm really starting to question if you really do own a Topre.
... Yea... The dude made a switch tester with a Topre switch with a spring, and a Topre switch without a spring, for a reason: so you can tell the difference.
There is also actual travel in Topre switches, as in, you can gradually press down on switches. Rubber domes do not have this aspect; they are all-or-nothing. This is an indication, again, that the way the rubber is implemented is different. With typical rubber domes, you are literally collapsing
onto the rubber. With Topres, there is an elasticity to the rubber, that makes a HUGE difference in feel.
As far as plungers go... none of the rubber domes I've ever used had plungers. And that's what I was basing the comparisons on. =D
A spade is a spade, sure. But to me, what you're doing is saying, "A Rolls-Royce has four wheels, and an engine, and since a Camry has four wheels, and an engine, a Rolls-Royce and Camry MUST be the same!" You are purposefully ignoring differences. You are being disingenuous.
And you making insinuations on my intelligence? Yea. That tells me you don't have much of an argument to stand on.
