Author Topic: LASTLY, A MECH KEYBOARD WITH THE PERFECT LAYOUT + FOOTPRINT IS BORNED!!!! (Read 37065 times)

Human · « **on:** Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:02:11 »

http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-47762-1-1.html

How many of you here being waiting for such a layout?!!?!?!?
Tenkeyless without compromising on productivity.

The sad part is that it uses a strange layout at numpad when numlock off...

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SIDE NOTE(another keyboard):
1st tenkeyless backlit keyboard borned.
Fixed the strange spacebar standard(now KBC compatible) and uneven spacing. Also now using Cherry Style stabiliser instead wire(Costar) style.
http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-47760-1-1.html

phormality · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:06:26 »

I like it. I'd like a Mac version of it as well.

Tarkoon · « **Reply #2 on:** Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:06:26 »

Is it rubberdome, Cherry, Topre, ALPS?
But the layout is indeed very nice!

tp4tissue · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:09:07 »

Quote from: Human;566709

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http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-47762-1-1.html

How many of you here being waiting for such a layout?!!?!?!?
Tenkeyless without compromising on productivity.

The sad part is that it uses a strange layout at numpad when numlock off...

Hmmmm........ yea it's pretty sweet.. I would hold off until late into the product cycle,, being multilayered and all, I envision problems // screwups

Is it firmware updatable??

Also, copy of the dolce???

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Human · « **Reply #4 on:** Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:23:34 »

Quote from: Tarkoon;566715

Is it rubberdome, Cherry, Topre, ALPS?
But the layout is indeed very nice!

Both KBs above are Cherry switches(cause it is the only switch that had market in China).

Quote from: tp4tissue;566718

Hmmmm........ yea it's pretty sweet.. I would hold off until late into the product cycle,, being multilayered and all, I envision problems // screwups

Is it firmware updatable??

Also, copy of the dolce???

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Details unsure.

The keyboard is being designed from scratch(but the idea isn't anything new). Such layout is to fit those people who like to have keyboard with the footprint of TKL but still need numpad. Such layout are normal on 15"+ laptops.

Infact by combining the main clusters with numpad, you won't even need to use the dedicated arrow keys, del , home and so on. You can just numlock on and off to change between numpad and arrow keys as you like.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #5 on:** Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:24:55 »

Quote from: Human;566743

Both KBs above are Cherry switches(cause it is the only switch that had market in China).

there's also alotta anti-japanese products psychology in China, so that may explain why topre isn't as popular,,, ALTHOUGH japanese pr0n is somehow excluded from the racism.

Human · « **Reply #6 on:** Wed, 04 April 2012, 13:44:43 »

Quote from: tp4tissue;566745

there's also alotta anti-japanese products psychology in China, so that may explain why topre isn't as popular,,, ALTHOUGH japanese pr0n is somehow excluded from the racism.

True, but not 100%. Japanese products are still deemed as high qualities. FILCO is still worshiped as top tier keyboard over other competitor.
I believe topre's price is the main reason that it isn't popular.

For the pr0n part, can't deny it. I came from a multiracial country(which also being ruled by Japan b4) and I had seen that those foreign Japan stuffs(JAV, JManga, JAnime and so on) are actually promoting racial integration effectively than any other mean.

mkeeley · « **Reply #7 on:** Wed, 04 April 2012, 17:26:51 »

Not for me, if I had to choose I'd prefer cursor keys over a num pad

laffindude · « **Reply #8 on:** Wed, 04 April 2012, 17:27:43 »

^^You're Taiwanese?

Soarer · « **Reply #9 on:** Wed, 04 April 2012, 18:05:59 »

Quote from: Human;566709

How many of you here being waiting for such a layout?!!?!?!?

Well, me, for one!

The key layout is perfect. Even if they don't get the controller / layers exactly right, it's so much easier to swap in a different controller than start from scratch.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #10 on:** Wed, 04 April 2012, 20:03:09 »

Quote from: laffindude;566970

^^You're Taiwanese?

My taiwanese nationalism sense is tingling. Since he was describing Taiwan as a "country"..... I'm not gonna say it's not,,, but lets just say if it were,, then it might as well be little Fuzhou, because i have 29 cousins living there from the branch of my family that fled the cultural revolution.

Human · « **Reply #11 on:** Thu, 05 April 2012, 01:19:46 »

Quote from: mkeeley;566969

Not for me, if I had to choose I'd prefer cursor keys over a num pad

Once you get used to the arrow keys on numpad when num-lock off, trust me you won't want to go back to the cramped up arrow keys at bottom rows....
The one on numpad isn't as cramped up and also it is having same rows as to the famous WASD.

In this case, they make it that the arrow keys been placed as if real arrow keys, which is what may suit your taste(but not mine...).

herseil · « **Reply #12 on:** Thu, 05 April 2012, 04:14:55 »

Whoa, that's the kind of layout I've been wishing for all these time :becky:

Will keep eye on it one for sure

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #13 on:** Thu, 05 April 2012, 09:52:42 »

Great, now when and where can I buy it? Google translate makes no sense of the forum linked... who is it being made by? Looks like Noppoo.

Human · « **Reply #14 on:** Thu, 05 April 2012, 10:16:23 »

Quote from: lysol;567619

Great, now when and where can I buy it? Google translate makes no sense of the forum linked... who is it being made by? Looks like Noppoo.

That board is designed and probably going to be made by PLUM(which also made Noppoo and Neo Zelia87 IIRC).
Probably need another few months till it being launced in taobao.

Typhaeon · « **Reply #15 on:** Thu, 05 April 2012, 10:52:43 »

PCB or plate-mounted?

Human · « **Reply #16 on:** Thu, 05 April 2012, 10:59:50 »

Quote from: Typhaeon;567707

PCB or plate-mounted?

Not sure, not much information for the time being. But it will be having predrilled holes and circuit for LED mounting like Neo Zelia did, so the chances for PCB mounted is probably higher...

tp4tissue · « **Reply #17 on:** Thu, 05 April 2012, 12:44:11 »

Quote from: Typhaeon;567707

PCB or plate-mounted?

How is the switch attached to the plate if it's plate mounted,, is it a clip>>

ahjota · « **Reply #18 on:** Thu, 05 April 2012, 14:02:11 »

Looks awesome. I think it's a great idea.

Of course, now I want a left-handed version of this...

1391401 · « **Reply #19 on:** Thu, 05 April 2012, 22:19:55 »

Quote from: mkeeley;566969

Not for me, if I had to choose I'd prefer cursor keys over a num pad

I might be wrong but if I am interpreting the image below correctly you can probably toggle the number pad on/off and when the number pad is "off" the four keys with the arrows act as cursor keys

http://i.imgur.com/HfDSG.jpg

Human · « **Reply #20 on:** Fri, 06 April 2012, 00:01:24 »

Quote from: 1391401;568418

I might be wrong but if I am interpreting the image below correctly you can probably toggle the number pad on/off and when the number pad is "off" the four keys with the arrows act as cursor keys

http://i.imgur.com/HfDSG.jpg

Of course it is, but my whine is that why don't they follow the default layout on numpad(2468 for cursors and 7193 for home, end, pgup and pgdn). It will work much better than the pseudo cursor keys simulation(the extra keys around will be a hinder to use the cursor keys in normal way)...

demik · « **Reply #21 on:** Fri, 06 April 2012, 00:42:28 »

looks like reaper's HHMX

reaper · « **Reply #22 on:** Fri, 06 April 2012, 00:45:42 »

^ Or 7bit layout. =P

rknize · « **Reply #23 on:** Fri, 06 April 2012, 17:30:59 »

Isn't this that layout that WASD was suggesting?

Findecanor · « **Reply #24 on:** Fri, 06 April 2012, 18:28:42 »

Layout suggested to WASD Keyboards, I think it was. It is already on the Roccat Arvo, which is not a mechanical keyboard. The layout has been discussed every now and then since I registered here.

Nadger · « **Reply #25 on:** Fri, 06 April 2012, 19:58:11 »

looks awesome, that keyboard would get me to loosen my death grip on my wallet for a 2nd mechanical.

very similar to the ideal layout i posted months ago

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nar · « **Reply #26 on:** Sat, 07 April 2012, 00:17:18 »

Oh, the arrow keys on the numpad are laid out in the Reversed T shape? I always thought they were the standard layout on numpads...
This layout just instantly went from unusable for me to must buy.

Human · « **Reply #27 on:** Sat, 07 April 2012, 11:25:12 »

Quote from: nar;569575

Oh, the arrow keys on the numpad are laid out in the Reversed T shape? I always thought they were the standard layout on numpads...
This layout just instantly went from unusable for me to must buy.

I still prefer the default "+" shaped cursor keys. The reversed T mapped on "0", "00", "." and "2" may not be a good choice as your finger tend to touch "1" and "3" when you use it...

reaper · « **Reply #28 on:** Sat, 07 April 2012, 18:24:33 »

Quote from: nar;569575

Oh, the arrow keys on the numpad are laid out in the Reversed T shape? I always thought they were the standard layout on numpads...
This layout just instantly went from unusable for me to must buy.

Mine doesn't have reversed T arrows.

nar · « **Reply #29 on:** Sun, 08 April 2012, 01:31:26 »

I guess it's dependent on the specific keyboard whether or not the arrows are the standard shape or not.
Since I'm used to using the compact style keyboards where the arrow keys are surrounded by keys anyways, the 1 and 3 don't bother me.

Human · « **Reply #30 on:** Sun, 08 April 2012, 03:41:28 »

Quote from: nar;570405

I guess it's dependent on the specific keyboard whether or not the arrows are the standard shape or not.
Since I'm used to using the compact style keyboards where the arrow keys are surrounded by keys anyways, the 1 and 3 don't bother me.

Trust me, it would be very different between flat profile and DCS profile. On flat profile such as Scissor switch on my laptop, it is fine. But when you tried on the numpad(pressing 0,2 and del as if they are cursors) of a fullsize mechanical keyboard, you will feel the problem...

Human · « **Reply #31 on:** Mon, 09 April 2012, 09:26:28 »

Some Q&A of the keyboard answered(by the manufacturer of the board himself):
http://www.waishehome.cn/redirect.php?goto=findpost&ptid=47762&pid=812604&fromuid=73652
1. ETA is b4 Q3 of 2012(mean the most 2 more months)
2. It is PCB mounted(like Neo Zelia 87)
3. It is having predrilled holes and circuit for LED mounting(like Neo Zelia 87).

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #32 on:** Mon, 09 April 2012, 09:53:11 »

Good stuff, PCB mount FTW.

Typhaeon · « **Reply #33 on:** Mon, 09 April 2012, 10:34:16 »

Wow, this'll do nicely for my ergo clear mod if new Pokers aren't manufactured before then.

Daniel Beaver · « **Reply #34 on:** Mon, 09 April 2012, 10:57:58 »

I will buy this the moment it is available. The tenkeyonly layout is highly superior (one of the best features of the Model F AT, IMHO).

Soarer · « **Reply #35 on:** Mon, 09 April 2012, 14:00:19 »

Excellent - I like PCB mounted MX, and they're easy to mod to boot :-)

Now, how about ISO?

*ducks*

hemflit · « **Reply #36 on:** Tue, 10 April 2012, 16:10:31 »

Neat. Not for me, but very neat.

Nadger · « **Reply #37 on:** Sat, 16 June 2012, 22:53:55 »

Any update on this thing? When is it available?

mkawa · « **Reply #38 on:** Sat, 16 June 2012, 22:57:11 »

this is the aikb non-ergo board i believe. imsto sells the pcbs on his taobao store.

Loligagger · « **Reply #39 on:** Mon, 18 June 2012, 15:35:24 »

Any news on this board? When can I give them my money for a layout this good?

Daniel Beaver · « **Reply #40 on:** Mon, 18 June 2012, 15:43:54 »

My wallet is open wide, if only they would take it.

[video=youtube_share;8QfSzgV1q5g]http://youtu.be/8QfSzgV1q5g[/video]

Soarer · « **Reply #41 on:** Sun, 24 June 2012, 11:31:21 »

Quote from: mkawa;615227

this is the aikb non-ergo board i believe. imsto sells the pcbs on his taobao store.

That looks more like a TKL with a couple of extra switches :-/

Quote from: Human;571448

1. ETA is b4 Q3 of 2012(mean the most 2 more months)

To get it out before Q3 they will have to hurry!

ferociousfingerings · « **Reply #42 on:** Tue, 25 September 2012, 20:37:01 »

Anyone heard anything more about this board/layout/style/etc?

This thread looks like it started late, due to the fact that there's a much older thread showing a wireless version made by PLUM. (MX 96?)

Highly desirable layout, IMO. Hybrid "home/arrow/tenkey" cluster, without changing the layout of either.

The only reason i ever use the numpad is for more quickly/comfortably entering numbers, and for hitting the enter key with my right thumb. I never use the tenkey arrows for anything, nor do i ever use the "home" layer of the tenkey. I do, however, use the "home cluster" and "arrow keys" in combination with ctrl and shift.

Everything in the same place, but more space for mouse.

Awesome.

TheProfosist · « **Reply #43 on:** Tue, 25 September 2012, 23:28:28 »

I designed a layout very very simular to that first board a while back for wasd. Its interesting how they implemented it.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #44 on:** Tue, 25 September 2012, 23:41:05 »

It was released and is available to purchase from China for about $80. Which reminds me, I need to buy one of these now that the white pbt version is out.

TheProfosist · « **Reply #45 on:** Wed, 26 September 2012, 00:06:52 »

Quote from: lysol on Tue, 25 September 2012, 23:41:05

It was released and is available to purchase from China for about $80. Which reminds me, I need to buy one of these now that the white pbt version is out.

mind doing a good review when you get it? I always like to own keyboards that match layouts ive comeup with.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #46 on:** Wed, 26 September 2012, 00:12:43 »

Whenever I manage to get one... but I already nearly forgot it existed until this thread was bumped back up.

Binge · « **Reply #47 on:** Wed, 26 September 2012, 02:30:34 »

I love the layout but I seriously dislike MX blacks. What ever will I do?! Phantom maybe?

ferociousfingerings · « **Reply #48 on:** Wed, 26 September 2012, 02:41:56 »

Quote from: TheProfosist on Tue, 25 September 2012, 23:28:28

I designed a layout very very simular to that first board a while back for wasd. Its interesting how they implemented it.

Wait... what?

Got any links to where i can view or research this implementation?

Or is this a "yet to be released / as yet unreleased / might not be released" model?

G.C.W. · « **Reply #49 on:** Wed, 26 September 2012, 03:35:09 »

have Seen this layout long Time agor by Filco on taobao...

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Author Topic: LASTLY, A MECH KEYBOARD WITH THE PERFECT LAYOUT + FOOTPRINT IS BORNED!!!! (Read 37065 times)