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Post Truth Society.
« on: Mon, 11 November 2024, 07:46:17 »
You can't trust anything anymore.

Can you tell whether these images are AI ?

Thoughts? Are we going back to in person relationships to verify what's real ?

Tp4 is a simulation. /NPCs have rights.

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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 11 November 2024, 08:37:21 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 11 November 2024, 07:46:17

You can't trust anything anymore.


There are things that you can trust. The scientific method is as valid as it ever was. Real interpersonal relationships are as real as they ever were.

Nature, that thing that surrounds you when you go outside, that is real.

What you scrape off the monitor in front of your face for most of your waking hours - not so much.
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"Politicians have been proving Carlin right for decades. The GOP and the second Trump Administration seem bent on doing what they’ve always done, sometimes even turning the American Dream into the American Nightmare. Taxes are a major contributor, especially the billions upon billions that the rich and corporations don’t pay. Trump and his fellow Republicans are committed to keeping it that way — and, if their slim Congressional majorities can stick together, to do even more for those who need it the least. As one small example, the overall corporate tax rate could drop to 20%; domestic manufacturers could do even better, ending up with an effective corporate rate of 15%. The federal tax code is famous (and infamous) for its huge handouts to those with the highest incomes, the most egregious being the cap on Social Security taxes."
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 11 November 2024, 08:50:53 »
PGP cryptography solves this. In a post-truth society, we must adopt "trustless" technology.
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 11 November 2024, 09:29:11 »
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 11 November 2024, 17:52:59 »
AI is not as smart as everyone thinks it is. It will never be able to be mistaken for human, at least not for decades.
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 11 November 2024, 18:16:01 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 11 November 2024, 17:52:59
AI is not as smart as everyone thinks it is. It will never be able to be mistaken for human, at least not for decades.

NT is obviously an AI.
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 11 November 2024, 19:10:10 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 11 November 2024, 17:52:59

mistaken for human, at least not for decades.


Depends on what human. It can easily replicate a stupid or insane human, a majority of the time.

But when it goes off topic, it is whacko.
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“The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it.” - George Carlin

"Politicians have been proving Carlin right for decades. The GOP and the second Trump Administration seem bent on doing what they’ve always done, sometimes even turning the American Dream into the American Nightmare. Taxes are a major contributor, especially the billions upon billions that the rich and corporations don’t pay. Trump and his fellow Republicans are committed to keeping it that way — and, if their slim Congressional majorities can stick together, to do even more for those who need it the least. As one small example, the overall corporate tax rate could drop to 20%; domestic manufacturers could do even better, ending up with an effective corporate rate of 15%. The federal tax code is famous (and infamous) for its huge handouts to those with the highest incomes, the most egregious being the cap on Social Security taxes."
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 11 November 2024, 19:55:35 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 11 November 2024, 17:52:59
AI is not as smart as everyone thinks it is. It will never be able to be mistaken for human, at least not for decades.

I think less than 1 decade.
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 11 November 2024, 21:02:22 »
3 years, 5 tops.
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 11 November 2024, 21:21:18 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 11 November 2024, 21:02:22
3 years, 5 tops.

Radical and paranoid overestimation
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 12 November 2024, 07:22:12 »
AI only works if you feed it worthwhile data. If the data being fed into the data model is wrong, that AI is worthless.
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 14 November 2024, 10:06:36 »
The Onion  Buys  InfoWars

What a world we live in.
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"Politicians have been proving Carlin right for decades. The GOP and the second Trump Administration seem bent on doing what they’ve always done, sometimes even turning the American Dream into the American Nightmare. Taxes are a major contributor, especially the billions upon billions that the rich and corporations don’t pay. Trump and his fellow Republicans are committed to keeping it that way — and, if their slim Congressional majorities can stick together, to do even more for those who need it the least. As one small example, the overall corporate tax rate could drop to 20%; domestic manufacturers could do even better, ending up with an effective corporate rate of 15%. The federal tax code is famous (and infamous) for its huge handouts to those with the highest incomes, the most egregious being the cap on Social Security taxes."
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 14 November 2024, 10:58:08 »
« Last Edit: Wed, 27 November 2024, 00:53:01 by Findecanor »
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 14 November 2024, 15:28:12 »
Are they saying Infowar will now be more truthful?
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 14 November 2024, 15:38:39 »
For, Example,  American cities today. Drugs and brothels around every other corner.

Go to 6th avenue, or anywhere around Upper west side, you probably couldn't afford to live here, yet, next to a big grocer, there's are convenience stores, the size of a closet, what do they sell? You got soda, chips, beef jerky, but oddly, also Hookas and Crackpipes.. ? That's actually one of their big sellers.

But we don't report this.
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 14 November 2024, 16:56:43 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 14 November 2024, 15:38:39
For, Example,  American cities today. Drugs and brothels around every other corner.

Go to 6th avenue, Upper west side, you probably couldn't afford to live here, yet, next to a big grocer, there's are convenience stores, the size of a closet, what do they sell? You got soda, chips, beef jerky, but oddly, also Hookas and Crackpipes.. ? That's actually one of their big sellers.
Well, what do you expect if you just leave people to rot in poverty. I'd look for a way out too.
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 14 November 2024, 17:20:59 »
Quote from: chyros on Thu, 14 November 2024, 16:56:43
Well, what do you expect if you just leave people to rot in poverty. I'd look for a way out too.

Extravagance necessarily creates poverty.

Instead of asking, what happens when you leave people to rot.

We could also ask, what happens, when wealth and power is unchecked.

What comes first, the unchecked greed, or the rotting.

The greed is first incidence, and it is its own way of rot.
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 21 November 2024, 19:11:58 »
Now that he can control the mint, why bother with this?

https://gettrumpguitars.com/
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"Politicians have been proving Carlin right for decades. The GOP and the second Trump Administration seem bent on doing what they’ve always done, sometimes even turning the American Dream into the American Nightmare. Taxes are a major contributor, especially the billions upon billions that the rich and corporations don’t pay. Trump and his fellow Republicans are committed to keeping it that way — and, if their slim Congressional majorities can stick together, to do even more for those who need it the least. As one small example, the overall corporate tax rate could drop to 20%; domestic manufacturers could do even better, ending up with an effective corporate rate of 15%. The federal tax code is famous (and infamous) for its huge handouts to those with the highest incomes, the most egregious being the cap on Social Security taxes."
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 25 November 2024, 17:24:51 »
AI only exists so that you can get rich off Nvidia stock.
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Re: Post Truth Society.
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 26 November 2024, 17:19:47 »
"Trump's election will be a step backward for civilization."

- Angela Merkel 2024-11-26
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“The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it.” - George Carlin

"Politicians have been proving Carlin right for decades. The GOP and the second Trump Administration seem bent on doing what they’ve always done, sometimes even turning the American Dream into the American Nightmare. Taxes are a major contributor, especially the billions upon billions that the rich and corporations don’t pay. Trump and his fellow Republicans are committed to keeping it that way — and, if their slim Congressional majorities can stick together, to do even more for those who need it the least. As one small example, the overall corporate tax rate could drop to 20%; domestic manufacturers could do even better, ending up with an effective corporate rate of 15%. The federal tax code is famous (and infamous) for its huge handouts to those with the highest incomes, the most egregious being the cap on Social Security taxes."
- Gerald Scorse 2025-01-12

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« Reply #20 on: Tue, 10 December 2024, 09:00:30 »
Paul Krugman has retired from the New York Times, he was about the last person there with intelligence and integrity.

"This is my final column for The New York Times, where I began publishing my opinions in January 2000. I’m retiring from The Times, not the world, so I’ll still be expressing my views in other places. But this does seem like a good occasion to reflect on what has changed over these past 25 years.

What strikes me, looking back, is how optimistic many people, both here and in much of the Western world, were back then and the extent to which that optimism has been replaced by anger and resentment. And I’m not just talking about members of the working class who feel betrayed by elites; some of the angriest, most resentful people in America right now — people who seem very likely to have a lot of influence with the incoming Trump administration — are billionaires who don’t feel sufficiently admired.

And it wasn’t that long ago that technology billionaires were widely admired across the political spectrum, some achieving folk-hero status. But now they and some of their products face disillusionment and worse; Australia has even banned social media use by children under 16.

Which brings me back to my point that some of the most resentful people in America right now seem to be angry billionaires.

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“The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it.” - George Carlin

"Politicians have been proving Carlin right for decades. The GOP and the second Trump Administration seem bent on doing what they’ve always done, sometimes even turning the American Dream into the American Nightmare. Taxes are a major contributor, especially the billions upon billions that the rich and corporations don’t pay. Trump and his fellow Republicans are committed to keeping it that way — and, if their slim Congressional majorities can stick together, to do even more for those who need it the least. As one small example, the overall corporate tax rate could drop to 20%; domestic manufacturers could do even better, ending up with an effective corporate rate of 15%. The federal tax code is famous (and infamous) for its huge handouts to those with the highest incomes, the most egregious being the cap on Social Security taxes."
- Gerald Scorse 2025-01-12
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