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Offline chuckdee

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 08 May 2017, 18:50:24 »
So I took my case off for the first time today.


The carrier that put my screen protector on scratched the back of my phone all to hell.


Might try and put a dbrand skin on.

Yeah, learned the hard way that though they offer to put the case on, most time they don't know what they're doing :(  Sorry that happened.

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #51 on: Mon, 08 May 2017, 21:18:45 »
Meh.  People keep telling me that, but I have no problems on my tablets with Touchwhiz.

OH YOU HAVE PROBLEMS PAL YOU JUST DONT KNOW ABOUT THEM :D

Nope, you have problems, and I refuse to buy into them.  Even after others have tried to show/convince me.  It works for me, so that's the rubric I always use :P

this

if you have issues w touchwiz don't buy samsung phones?

I like the hardware and the camera tho

that ^

the only thing stopping you then is a root and a stock rom

using flagship bloatware roms make me nauseous
Stock roms almost always suck, and even when they are okay, carriers do their best to screw them up.

If you want to hack...  Beware
Some phones have a locked carrier...  (Samsung and LG do this)
ATT&T and Sprint play this game, and while you can unlock most after a year of continuous service (usually), Sprint is a real bastard about it, especially on prepaid. If you fulfill your contract but terminate service, they can try and force you to do another year of service before unlocking the carrier. They have also been known to implement black lists of phones they refused to allow to leave (before the rule change). Sprint blacklisted my S4 and then when that was lifted, tried playing the "needs to be online for year first" rule. At which point I told Sprint to go to hell after 14 years of service.

And the bad doesn't end there on Sprint Prepaid, not only do they do that, but Sprint has suppliers remove the menu system to allow you to port the phone off of Sprint. So if you have say a nice prepaid Galaxy S5, because it is capable of being ported out, Sprint has the supplier (Samsung) remove the menu, so their associates will tell you it can't be ported out. This was made legal by the new FCC rules on porting.... Which Sprint helped write. They left this loophole in it and Sprint was prepared for this well in advance, so even if it's an older phone, they already had that removed in expectation of it. Technically, if you add the file/menu back, it can be ported, but you still need an unlock code which they will not give you, claiming it's impossible, and while a third party can get it, is it REALLY worth it for a phone that will be limited to slow speeds on other carriers? Sell it and move on.


More insidious...  Some phones have a locked bootloader. (Samsung loves doing this for AT&T and Verizon)
This means you can root and rom it, and port it, however, you can ONLY use a rom which uses the same kernel. So if it came with Touchwiz or any kernel modifications, you are stuck using a rom based on that kernel. No one has cracked the S4 Verizon bootloader despite a nice bounty to do so.

Not only do phones come this way, but the first AT&T S5 had an unlocked bootloader, then the second or third update they locked it.. Those older AT&T S5's fetch a nice premium since you cannot roll it back. In fact rolling back much of anything on a Samsung tends to make it a permanent paper weight. This is by design (KNOX).


If you want to buy an open phone
Your best bet is T-Mobile, who doesn't usually lock the carrier and almost never locks the bootloader to my knowledge. Their phones are almost 100% compatible with AT&T and the rest of the world (including 4g). T-mobile phones often fetch a slight premium because of this. Typically Sprint phones are worth the least (by a fair margin at times), then AT&T and Verizon which often have similar pricing, with T-mobile selling for the most, barring special colors and features.

Remember, ALWAYS read up on your phone before you flash anything because while some phones are hard to kill (LG), Samsung are ridiculously simple. Do the homework first and this stuff is actually pretty safe. It;s not doing the homework that will get you in trouble. Admittedly, it's not always easy or clear, but must be done to do it safely.

Can you tell I've done this a few times?  :))
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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #52 on: Mon, 08 May 2017, 21:24:13 »
Meh.  People keep telling me that, but I have no problems on my tablets with Touchwhiz.

OH YOU HAVE PROBLEMS PAL YOU JUST DONT KNOW ABOUT THEM :D

Nope, you have problems, and I refuse to buy into them.  Even after others have tried to show/convince me.  It works for me, so that's the rubric I always use :P

this

if you have issues w touchwiz don't buy samsung phones?

I like the hardware and the camera tho

that ^

the only thing stopping you then is a root and a stock rom

using flagship bloatware roms make me nauseous
Stock roms almost always suck, and even when they are okay, carriers do their best to screw them up.

If you want to hack...  Beware
Some phones have a locked carrier...  (Samsung and LG do this)
ATT&T and Sprint play this game, and while you can unlock most after a year of continuous service (usually), Sprint is a real bastard about it, especially on prepaid. If you fulfill your contract but terminate service, they can try and force you to do another year of service before unlocking the carrier. They have also been known to implement black lists of phones they refused to allow to leave (before the rule change). Sprint blacklisted my S4 and then when that was lifted, tried playing the "needs to be online for year first" rule. At which point I told Sprint to go to hell after 14 years of service.

And the bad doesn't end there on Sprint Prepaid, not only do they do that, but Sprint has suppliers remove the menu system to allow you to port the phone off of Sprint. So if you have say a nice prepaid Galaxy S5, because it is capable of being ported out, Sprint has the supplier (Samsung) remove the menu, so their associates will tell you it can't be ported out. This was made legal by the new FCC rules on porting.... Which Sprint helped write. They left this loophole in it and Sprint was prepared for this well in advance, so even if it's an older phone, they already had that removed in expectation of it. Technically, if you add the file/menu back, it can be ported, but you still need an unlock code which they will not give you, claiming it's impossible, and while a third party can get it, is it REALLY worth it for a phone that will be limited to slow speeds on other carriers? Sell it and move on.


More insidious...  Some phones have a locked bootloader. (Samsung loves doing this for AT&T and Verizon)
This means you can root and rom it, and port it, however, you can ONLY use a rom which uses the same kernel. So if it came with Touchwiz or any kernel modifications, you are stuck using a rom based on that kernel. No one has cracked the S4 Verizon bootloader despite a nice bounty to do so.

Not only do phones come this way, but the first AT&T S5 had an unlocked bootloader, then the second or third update they locked it.. Those older AT&T S5's fetch a nice premium since you cannot roll it back. In fact rolling back much of anything on a Samsung tends to make it a permanent paper weight. This is by design (KNOX).


If you want to buy an open phone
Your best bet is T-Mobile, who doesn't usually lock the carrier and almost never locks the bootloader to my knowledge. Their phones are almost 100% compatible with AT&T and the rest of the world (including 4g). T-mobile phones often fetch a slight premium because of this. Typically Sprint phones are worth the least (by a fair margin at times), then AT&T and Verizon which often have similar pricing, with T-mobile selling for the most, barring special colors and features.

Remember, ALWAYS read up on your phone before you flash anything because while some phones are hard to kill (LG), Samsung are ridiculously simple. Do the homework first and this stuff is actually pretty safe. It;s not doing the homework that will get you in trouble. Admittedly, it's not always easy or clear, but must be done to do it safely.

Can you tell I've done this a few times?  :))

and all that is completely irrelevant to the rest of the world.

stock rom is buttery smooth.

inb4 blaming UFS

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 09 May 2017, 10:42:43 »
I like stock for sure..

But it's all reached parity for the most part..

There's nothing that's super laggy or unsmooth on any of the major brands..

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 09 May 2017, 16:27:21 »
Newest report shows the S8 line to be the most fragile phone made.
Worse than Iphones, one drop test broke 4 sides, only the ends were intact.

Something to note...
It's a dirty little secret that Samsung and Apple do NOT sell screens to repair shops, any glass you get repaired other than factory, is NOT going to be Gorilla Glass, it will merely be tempered glass (Gorilla Glass is tempered glass, but done in a very specific way). Do not believe sellers and repair shops claiming otherwise.
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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #55 on: Tue, 09 May 2017, 17:25:45 »
I straight up can't understand why M0ar glass.. WHYYYYY

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 09 May 2017, 17:35:36 »
what are some of the fun things ya'll doing on the phone..

I ran out of things to do around day 5 after getting phone..

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 09 May 2017, 17:53:47 »
what are some of the fun things ya'll doing on the phone..

I ran out of things to do around day 5 after getting phone..

you can enable immersive via adb, its p good

you can also worry about your phone breaking if it falls 20 cms onto carpet

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 09 May 2017, 18:23:08 »
what are some of the fun things ya'll doing on the phone..

I ran out of things to do around day 5 after getting phone..

Mine is a glorified portable media player and that's about it. HBO, Netflix etc., or anything on my Plex server if I find myself out somewhere with time to kill. In the car it's my FLAC player via USB.

I still have a bunch of ROMs on it and carry my 8bitdo around for the occasional game, but ever since I built a retropie for work I barely touch the phone ROMs. Other than that, I've never found phone games to be interesting at all.

And I'm not much of a social media person, so tbh the vast majority of the time my phone is just sitting face down somewhere on silent mode because who actually calls people anymore?

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 09 May 2017, 23:20:44 »
what are some of the fun things ya'll doing on the phone..

I ran out of things to do around day 5 after getting phone..

Mine is a glorified portable media player and that's about it. HBO, Netflix etc., or anything on my Plex server if I find myself out somewhere with time to kill. In the car it's my FLAC player via USB.

I still have a bunch of ROMs on it and carry my 8bitdo around for the occasional game, but ever since I built a retropie for work I barely touch the phone ROMs. Other than that, I've never found phone games to be interesting at all.

And I'm not much of a social media person, so tbh the vast majority of the time my phone is just sitting face down somewhere on silent mode because who actually calls people anymore?



De Females refuse to Call Tp4  also..




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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 10 May 2017, 00:05:59 »
So I took my case off for the first time today.


The carrier that put my screen protector on scratched the back of my phone all to hell.


Might try and put a dbrand skin on.
I just put the Dbrand dragon skin on mine today. Very nice product. Took about 10 minutes to install.

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 10 May 2017, 00:55:51 »
So I took my case off for the first time today.


The carrier that put my screen protector on scratched the back of my phone all to hell.


Might try and put a dbrand skin on.
I just put the Dbrand dragon skin on mine today. Very nice product. Took about 10 minutes to install.

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 Nice! Pic?

I ordered the titanium. I have a silver phone so I was afraid the silver fingerprint scanner would look odd with dragon skin.

Did you apply with the blow dryer?

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 10 May 2017, 05:38:50 »
So I took my case off for the first time today.


The carrier that put my screen protector on scratched the back of my phone all to hell.


Might try and put a dbrand skin on.
I just put the Dbrand dragon skin on mine today. Very nice product. Took about 10 minutes to install.

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 Nice! Pic?

I ordered the titanium. I have a silver phone so I was afraid the silver fingerprint scanner would look odd with dragon skin.

Did you apply with the blow dryer?
I'll grab some pics in a little while (no phone is my only csmera). I applied it with a heat gun on low. Worked out just like they showed in the video. It really is amazing how much it helps to rub the sides down with the microfiber. That last step made all the difference in the world for this.

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 10 May 2017, 08:23:54 »
where  heatpipe ?  i thought they said it' gon haz heatpipe..

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 10 May 2017, 08:52:42 »
where  heatpipe ?  i thought they said it' gon haz heatpipe..
Hey it's **** post Ripster.

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 10 May 2017, 08:57:51 »
where  heatpipe ?  i thought they said it' gon haz heatpipe..
Hey it's **** post Ripster.

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Wow.. i am really doin' it right if my reputation is now on par with Ripster.. hahahahahah


Thanks for all the support ya'll

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 10 May 2017, 08:58:41 »
where  heatpipe ?  i thought they said it' gon haz heatpipe..
Hey it's **** post Ripster.

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Wow.. i am really doin' it right if my reputation is now on par with Ripster.. hahahahahah


Thanks for all the support ya'll

hahahahahahahahaha....
No problem. Thanks for all the **** posting, your keeping it realz.

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 10 May 2017, 15:48:21 »
No problem. Thanks for all the **** posting, your keeping it realz.

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #69 on: Wed, 10 May 2017, 15:51:55 »
No problem. Thanks for all the **** posting, your keeping it realz.

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
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No problem. Thanks for all the **** posting, your keeping it realz.

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #71 on: Wed, 10 May 2017, 15:52:53 »
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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 15:04:47 »
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S8+Teardown/87136?

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S8%2B+Teardown/87086?

In case anyone hadn't seen these already.

Thanks!


Also, I finally got my dbrand in. Super easy install. I seem to have finaly found a decent screen protector. Spigen NeoFlex. I also got the Spigen Neo Hybrid case and I am not a fan of it. My Speck Presido case is starting to fall apart from taking the phone in and out so I am trying to replace it by refund. Overall, still really enjoying the phone. I treat it like a baby. My hands are trained to not carry anything else in the hand that it is in. 

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #73 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 15:07:50 »
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S8+Teardown/87136?

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S8%2B+Teardown/87086?

In case anyone hadn't seen these already.

Thanks!


Also, I finally got my dbrand in. Super easy install. I seem to have finaly found a decent screen protector. Spigen NeoFlex. I also got the Spigen Neo Hybrid case and I am not a fan of it. My Speck Presido case is starting to fall apart from taking the phone in and out so I am trying to replace it by refund. Overall, still really enjoying the phone. I treat it like a baby. My hands are trained to not carry anything else in the hand that it is in. 


neohybrid was real good in the iphone 5  galxy s5  note 3 days..

Now they suck because of the curves.

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 15:08:29 »
Tempted to pull the trigger on getting one this month, but I really want to wait to see if they come out with a Note 8.

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 15:11:05 »
Tempted to pull the trigger on getting one this month, but I really want to wait to see if they come out with a Note 8.

what could possibly be different , the 835 is the newest chip..  it's just gonna have the pen.. that's it..

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #76 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 15:15:13 »
Tempted to pull the trigger on getting one this month, but I really want to wait to see if they come out with a Note 8.

what could possibly be different , the 835 is the newest chip..  it's just gonna have the pen.. that's it..

The pen. I really, oddly, want the pen.

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Re: Galaxy S8/S8+ thread
« Reply #77 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 15:17:51 »
Tempted to pull the trigger on getting one this month, but I really want to wait to see if they come out with a Note 8.

what could possibly be different , the 835 is the newest chip..  it's just gonna have the pen.. that's it..

The pen. I really, oddly, want the pen.


/Naught stuff eh?