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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #250 on: Thu, 09 January 2025, 08:49:12 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 09 January 2025, 01:38:17

I do hope everyone here have deleted their Meta and X profiles


I created Facebook and Twitter accounts 20 years ago or whenever they were started.

Facebook I only use to follow a photographer friend who posts his photos there. I can count my contacts there on my fingers and toes.

Twitter was something that I never used but the account sat dormant until the kerfuffle with the Musk purchase started, and at that point I deleted it immediately.
And, as I recall, you had to make it "inactive" or something for a month before you could delete it entirely.

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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #251 on: Thu, 09 January 2025, 09:13:49 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 09 January 2025, 04:28:32
Quote from: chyros on Thu, 09 January 2025, 04:16:24
I'm still on Twitter and plan to stay on there. I find it important not to close yourself off to what people you disagree with say, personally. Too many people only listen to news and opinions they agree with, while I think it's important to know WHY I disagree with my opponents.

That said, Twitter is a very depression cesspit by now.

What percentage of posts in your feed are from friends and family, and how many are advertisements and targeted content?
None, why?
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #252 on: Fri, 10 January 2025, 07:24:33 »
Can anyone please explain why companies are giving money to the Trump inauguration? I really do not understand their perceived obligation. Is there a law that they have to? And how is it determined how much the event will cost, and why is that not covered by the government? I'm quite confused.
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #253 on: Fri, 10 January 2025, 08:18:58 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 10 January 2025, 07:24:33

why companies are giving money to the Trump inauguration?


Because he demands it. He is actually calling rich individuals and corporations and telling them "We haven't gotten your inauguration donation yet."

It is pure grift and most of it will go into his pocket and not be spent on the inauguration at all. And he is tracking it like a hawk and knows exactly who has, and has not, coughed up and exactly how much.

That is his world. You don't think that he is sitting around pondering domestic and foreign policy matters, do you?
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"Politicians have been proving Carlin right for decades. The GOP and the second Trump Administration seem bent on doing what they’ve always done, sometimes even turning the American Dream into the American Nightmare. Taxes are a major contributor, especially the billions upon billions that the rich and corporations don’t pay. Trump and his fellow Republicans are committed to keeping it that way — and, if their slim Congressional majorities can stick together, to do even more for those who need it the least. As one small example, the overall corporate tax rate could drop to 20%; domestic manufacturers could do even better, ending up with an effective corporate rate of 15%. The federal tax code is famous (and infamous) for its huge handouts to those with the highest incomes, the most egregious being the cap on Social Security taxes."
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #254 on: Fri, 10 January 2025, 08:34:34 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 10 January 2025, 08:18:58
Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 10 January 2025, 07:24:33

why companies are giving money to the Trump inauguration?


Because he demands it. He is actually calling rich individuals and corporations and telling them "We haven't gotten your inauguration donation yet."

It is pure grift and most of it will go into his pocket and not be spent on the inauguration at all. And he is tracking it like a hawk and knows exactly who has, and has not, coughed up and exactly how much.

That is his world. You don't think that he is sitting around pondering domestic and foreign policy matters, do you?


The democrats do the exact same thing.  They all got call centers where the office holders go and "grift" rich people for "donations".
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #255 on: Fri, 10 January 2025, 08:43:18 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 10 January 2025, 07:24:33
Can anyone please explain why companies are giving money to the Trump inauguration? I really do not understand their perceived obligation. Is there a law that they have to? And how is it determined how much the event will cost, and why is that not covered by the government? I'm quite confused.
They're bending the knee (I.E. covering their a$$).

This is a guy who doesn't play by the rules, likes revenge and is easily manipulated by money, get on his bad side and he's going to make it rough on your company. On the other hand, get on his good side and you can do almost anything you want business-wise and maybe even get him to mess with your competition. A million dollars is a drop in the bucket for these companies and could save their company billions later from baseless investigations and lawsuits.
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #256 on: Fri, 10 January 2025, 08:47:52 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Fri, 10 January 2025, 08:34:34
The democrats do the exact same thing.  They all got call centers where the office holders go and "grift" rich people for "donations".

No, just no.
Calling and asking is one thing, calling and telling them it would be a shame if the FTC/SEC/DOJ/Congress/etc investigated your company but they can make it all go away for a small donation is not the same.

Stop with the both sides B.S., one side is very clearly playing by a different set of rules.
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #257 on: Fri, 10 January 2025, 09:18:21 »
Quote from: Leslieann on Fri, 10 January 2025, 08:47:52
Quote from: tp4tissue on Fri, 10 January 2025, 08:34:34
The democrats do the exact same thing.  They all got call centers where the office holders go and "grift" rich people for "donations".

No, just no.
Calling and asking is one thing, calling and telling them it would be a shame if the FTC/SEC/DOJ/Congress/etc investigated your company but they can make it all go away for a small donation is not the same.

Stop with the both sides B.S., one side is very clearly playing by a different set of rules.

Llann, this is not true,  Politicians ALL demand compensation, the only difference here is demeanor. Trump just has an ugly personality about it.

Getting anything done in business involves grift of some sort. Just the other week, Tp4 was called out by another company with a warehouse problem, they had an improperly built drainage, and was getting ingress of groundwater, it's not severe, but it's clearly not regulation.  WHY was Tp4 called, well, he's gud' @ recognizing the engineering requirements, but also, he can solve problems such as this much cheaper in other ways.

Calls up the right people, merely 6 benjamins into the right hands, and bam, approved. 
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #258 on: Fri, 10 January 2025, 09:35:41 »
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #259 on: Fri, 10 January 2025, 09:55:26 »
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"Politicians have been proving Carlin right for decades. The GOP and the second Trump Administration seem bent on doing what they’ve always done, sometimes even turning the American Dream into the American Nightmare. Taxes are a major contributor, especially the billions upon billions that the rich and corporations don’t pay. Trump and his fellow Republicans are committed to keeping it that way — and, if their slim Congressional majorities can stick together, to do even more for those who need it the least. As one small example, the overall corporate tax rate could drop to 20%; domestic manufacturers could do even better, ending up with an effective corporate rate of 15%. The federal tax code is famous (and infamous) for its huge handouts to those with the highest incomes, the most egregious being the cap on Social Security taxes."
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #260 on: Fri, 10 January 2025, 16:10:22 »
Quote from: Leslieann on Fri, 10 January 2025, 08:43:18
Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 10 January 2025, 07:24:33
Can anyone please explain why companies are giving money to the Trump inauguration? I really do not understand their perceived obligation. Is there a law that they have to? And how is it determined how much the event will cost, and why is that not covered by the government? I'm quite confused.
They're bending the knee (I.E. covering their a$$).

This is a guy who doesn't play by the rules, likes revenge and is easily manipulated by money, get on his bad side and he's going to make it rough on your company. On the other hand, get on his good side and you can do almost anything you want business-wise and maybe even get him to mess with your competition. A million dollars is a drop in the bucket for these companies and could save their company billions later from baseless investigations and lawsuits.

I was afraid this was the answer. Donations apparently happen for every inauguration, but after just a little digging, even Trump's first term his administration requested them, and didn't demand. It seems like he is playing a completely different game this time. An openly corrupt and dangerous game.
With all these companies I'd have expected to be more liberal and fight his policies bending the knee like servants, I am even more worried about the next 4 years. If a billion dollar company cannot say no to him, who is left in his weight class to fight against his policies?

Outlook: Not good
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #261 on: Fri, 10 January 2025, 16:21:42 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 10 January 2025, 16:10:22

An openly corrupt and dangerous game.


With all branches of government under MAGA control, including the last-last-resort Supreme Court, they will be free of almost all guardrails.

Roberts and Barrett whimpering out the tiniest of protests last night was embarrassingly little far too late.
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"Politicians have been proving Carlin right for decades. The GOP and the second Trump Administration seem bent on doing what they’ve always done, sometimes even turning the American Dream into the American Nightmare. Taxes are a major contributor, especially the billions upon billions that the rich and corporations don’t pay. Trump and his fellow Republicans are committed to keeping it that way — and, if their slim Congressional majorities can stick together, to do even more for those who need it the least. As one small example, the overall corporate tax rate could drop to 20%; domestic manufacturers could do even better, ending up with an effective corporate rate of 15%. The federal tax code is famous (and infamous) for its huge handouts to those with the highest incomes, the most egregious being the cap on Social Security taxes."
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #262 on: Fri, 10 January 2025, 19:31:35 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 10 January 2025, 16:21:42
With all branches of government under MAGA control, including the last-last-resort Supreme Court, they will be free of almost all guardrails.

Roberts and Barrett whimpering out the tiniest of protests last night was embarrassingly little far too late.
I'm not so sure it's MAGA.
Everyone assumes they removed the guardrails for Trump but they haven't really worked in his favor all that much. Yes, they've been working toward giving the presidency more power in expectation of a Republican president, but Herritage Foundation, which includes Thomas's wife (who picked all of Trump's Supreme Court justices) and Vance are playing a long game, they may have been using Trump to get Vance and therefore Herritage into that position. Trump cares about image, money and power, Vance is an ideologue and that's far more scary from a governing perspective.
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Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Reply #263 on: Fri, 10 January 2025, 20:23:49 »
Quote from: Leslieann on Fri, 10 January 2025, 19:31:35
Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 10 January 2025, 16:21:42

government under MAGA


using Trump to get Vance and therefore Herritage into that position.


That is absolutely right. But they will be happy to have Trump in place temporarily as an anger sponge.
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"Politicians have been proving Carlin right for decades. The GOP and the second Trump Administration seem bent on doing what they’ve always done, sometimes even turning the American Dream into the American Nightmare. Taxes are a major contributor, especially the billions upon billions that the rich and corporations don’t pay. Trump and his fellow Republicans are committed to keeping it that way — and, if their slim Congressional majorities can stick together, to do even more for those who need it the least. As one small example, the overall corporate tax rate could drop to 20%; domestic manufacturers could do even better, ending up with an effective corporate rate of 15%. The federal tax code is famous (and infamous) for its huge handouts to those with the highest incomes, the most egregious being the cap on Social Security taxes."
- Gerald Scorse 2025-01-12
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