Outdated IT words or phrases

[digi]

"Intranet"
"Hub"
"ISDN"

Post your favorite outdated IT words.....or don't, and watch us IT people do it. =D

[SpAmRaY]

geek
hack

[FLFisherman]

I like the term "bug."

In 1946, when Hopper was released from active duty, she joined the Harvard Faculty at the Computation Laboratory where she continued her work on the Mark II and Mark III. Operators traced an error in the Mark II to a moth trapped in a relay, coining the term bug. This bug was carefully removed and taped to the log book. Stemming from the first bug, today we call errors or glitches in a program a bug.

[beehatch]

geek
hack

yur so clever it hurts

[hashbaz]

Information Superhighway
"the net"

I'm so glad we all just say internet now.

[dgneo]

token ring
NT
bonzi buddy
dialup
handshake
pda

[redbanshee]

Internet Privacy

[baldgye]

webmaster

[Waateva]

World Wide Web

[madhias]

Floppy disk

[HoffmanMyster]

"Intranet"

Do people not use this word anymore? 

[Findecanor]

"Graphics accelerator"

I loathe "information superhighway" and "web surfing". I sometimes write the latter word, but with an 'e' because it is more descriptive that way ...

[baldgye]

"Intranet"

Do people not use this word anymore? 

...yes

[HoffmanMyster]

"Intranet"

Do people not use this word anymore? 

...yes

Okay. So what is the new word now? And why did it change? We still have local networks that host internal services for companies, no? What should I be calling this now?

[baldgye]

"Intranet"

Do people not use this word anymore? 

...yes

Okay. So what is the new word now? And why did it change? We still have local networks that host internal services for companies, no? What should I be calling this now?

oh wait I read your post wrong, I thought it read "do people still use this word" ...

[Waateva]

Turbo button

I just recently learned that the Turbo button actually slowed down your computer to allow compatibility with programs that otherwise wouldn't have run on the newer, faster chips that were coming out.

[digi]

Internet Privacy

good one

Okay. So what is the new word now? And why did it change? We still have local networks that host internal services for companies, no? What should I be calling this now?

LAN

[trizkut]

Okay. So what is the new word now? And why did it change? We still have local networks that host internal services for companies, no? What should I be calling this now?

LAN

And if they can still VPN into that network?

[digi]

Okay. So what is the new word now? And why did it change? We still have local networks that host internal services for companies, no? What should I be calling this now?

LAN

And if they can still VPN into that network?

LAN

[inanis]

Okay. So what is the new word now? And why did it change? We still have local networks that host internal services for companies, no? What should I be calling this now?

LAN

Intranet is right. LAN is a much broader term. At least that his how I feel.

[digi]

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that most IT shops in WI still use the word "Intranet" )

[dgneo]

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4364

If all the sites in a VPN are owned by the same enterprise, the VPN may be thought of as a corporate "intranet".  If the various sites in a VPN are owned by different enterprises, the VPN may be thought of as an "extranet".  A site can be in more than one VPN; e.g., in an intranet and in several extranets.  In general, when we use the term "VPN" we will not be distinguishing between intranets and extranets.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149

This memo describes an experimental method for the encapsulation of IP datagrams in avian carriers.  This specification is primarily useful in Metropolitan Area Networks.  This is an experimental, not recommended standard.  Distribution of this memo is unlimited.

[digi]

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4364

If all the sites in a VPN are owned by the same enterprise, the VPN may be thought of as a corporate "intranet".  If the various sites in a VPN are owned by different enterprises, the VPN may be thought of as an "extranet".  A site can be in more than one VPN; e.g., in an intranet and in several extranets.  In general, when we use the term "VPN" we will not be distinguishing between intranets and extranets.

That RFC was written in 2006. VPN can terminate in any part of the network you configure, by no means is it restricted to an Intranet. You can have a VPN terminiate in your DMZ, LAN, WAN, wherever you want.

You should read the RFC from 2015 good sir, the word Intranet isn't used once.

[dgneo]

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4364

If all the sites in a VPN are owned by the same enterprise, the VPN may be thought of as a corporate "intranet".  If the various sites in a VPN are owned by different enterprises, the VPN may be thought of as an "extranet".  A site can be in more than one VPN; e.g., in an intranet and in several extranets.  In general, when we use the term "VPN" we will not be distinguishing between intranets and extranets.

That RFC was written in 2006. VPN can terminate in any part of the network you configure, by no means is it restricted to an Intranet. You can have a VPN terminiate in your DMZ, LAN, WAN, wherever you want.

You should read the RFC from 2015 good sir, the word Intranet isn't used once.

Oh I know it's out of date, that's the point of the thread

See my edit for IP via Avian

[digi]

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4364

If all the sites in a VPN are owned by the same enterprise, the VPN may be thought of as a corporate "intranet".  If the various sites in a VPN are owned by different enterprises, the VPN may be thought of as an "extranet".  A site can be in more than one VPN; e.g., in an intranet and in several extranets.  In general, when we use the term "VPN" we will not be distinguishing between intranets and extranets.

That RFC was written in 2006. VPN can terminate in any part of the network you configure, by no means is it restricted to an Intranet. You can have a VPN terminiate in your DMZ, LAN, WAN, wherever you want.

You should read the RFC from 2015 good sir, the word Intranet isn't used once.

Oh I know it's out of date, that's the point of the thread

See my edit for IP via Avian

We still friends?

[dgneo]

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4364

If all the sites in a VPN are owned by the same enterprise, the VPN may be thought of as a corporate "intranet".  If the various sites in a VPN are owned by different enterprises, the VPN may be thought of as an "extranet".  A site can be in more than one VPN; e.g., in an intranet and in several extranets.  In general, when we use the term "VPN" we will not be distinguishing between intranets and extranets.

That RFC was written in 2006. VPN can terminate in any part of the network you configure, by no means is it restricted to an Intranet. You can have a VPN terminiate in your DMZ, LAN, WAN, wherever you want.

You should read the RFC from 2015 good sir, the word Intranet isn't used once.

Oh I know it's out of date, that's the point of the thread

See my edit for IP via Avian

We still friends?

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

tape backups

[inanis]

tape backups

It is outdated....it it is what we still use (in part). SO PAINFUL!

Thank goodness that **** isn't my job. 

[HoffmanMyster]

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that most IT shops in WI still use the word "Intranet" )

Wow.

[katushkin]

If it's not a publicly accessible internet, it's an intranet. Just because you can use remote access to get to it, doesn't mean it's not called an intranet.

To clarify, I'm talking about an internal internet page for employee self service and stuff, not just your personal files and stuff.

tape backups

We were still using these a year ago...

[digi]

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that most IT shops in WI still use the word "Intranet" )

Wow.

Please rate our cyber-friendship on a scale of 1-10..

[HoffmanMyster]

If it's not a publicly accessible internet, it's an intranet. Just because you can use remote access to get to it, doesn't mean it's not called an intranet.

To clarify, I'm talking about an internal internet page for employee self service and stuff, not just your personal files and stuff.

I admit I'm not in IT, but this is was I was always taught.  Seems strange to just abandon a term when the technology is largely the same (unless I missed something).

tape backups

We were still using these a year ago...

Last I heard, Google keeps emails backed up on tape backups.  Maybe that changed too though.  )

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that most IT shops in WI still use the word "Intranet" )

Wow.

Please rate our cyber-friendship on a scale of 1-10..

That's a small range...hmm.  11?

[digi]

That's a small range...hmm.  11?

[Waateva]

tape backups

We were still using these a year ago...

Last I heard, Google keeps emails backed up on tape backups.  Maybe that changed too though.  )

My friend did IT work for 5/3 Bank and as of about 2-3 years ago they still used tape backups as well.

[HoffmanMyster]

That's a small range...hmm.  11?

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Yeah except I was responding in binary since IT thread.

[digi]

That's a small range...hmm.  11?

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Yeah except I was responding in binary since IT thread.

Our relationship is Simplex then?? I'm just throwin love at ya and nothing in return? rude..

[cryptokey]

"Intranet"

Do people not use this word anymore? 

Most big companies have intranets; I'd say its still in use.

[HoffmanMyster]

That's a small range...hmm.  11?

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Yeah except I was responding in binary since IT thread.

Our relationship is Simplex then?? I'm just throwin love at ya and nothing in return? rude..

:-*  no ur rood

[digi]

That's a small range...hmm.  11?

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Yeah except I was responding in binary since IT thread.

Our relationship is Simplex then?? I'm just throwin love at ya and nothing in return? rude..

:-*  no ur rood

reporting you to Halv..

[cryptokey]

tape backups

We were still using these a year ago...

Last I heard, Google keeps emails backed up on tape backups.  Maybe that changed too though.  )

My friend did IT work for 5/3 Bank and as of about 2-3 years ago they still used tape backups as well.

I'm surprised they're still in use with hard drives getting so cheap, being much faster, and lasting longer.

[fohat.digs]

"The C prompt"

[hashbaz]

Most big companies have intranets; I'd say its still in use.

Can vouch. My company's internal portal is still referred to in conversation as "the intranet".

"The C prompt"

I miss the days of the C prompt tbh.

[digi]

I miss the days of the C prompt tbh.

DOS 6.22 was all we needed..

[dgneo]

We still have an intranet. 95% of our company calls it SharePoint, I like to call it hell.

We used tapes as well up until last year. It's still a viable cold storage option, and not a bad one at that. The backup software used to write to the tapes on the other hand....(LOOKING AT YOU BACKUPEXEC)

[katushkin]

We still have an intranet. 95% of our company calls it SharePoint, I like to call it hell.

We used tapes as well up until last year. It's still a viable cold storage option, and not a bad one at that. The backup software used to write to the tapes on the other hand....(LOOKING AT YOU BACKUPEXEC)

We have an internal SharePoint on out intranet  both get used for different things.

Oh god, and the massive robot we used to store, write to and eject our tapes was enormous. Now there is a huge space where it once was, and all our tapes got destroyed. Lol.

[azhdar]

intranet is still used term yo.

serial port.

[Dongulator]

Best thread, you can tell who's in the IT world, who's a dev and so on.
But a phrase I never hear anymore is "Ribbon cable"
or
CD Tray,CD Drive, pretty much anything to do to with a CD is obsolete.

[katushkin]

Mainframe

And CMDB in my organisation apparently...

[hashbaz]

Best thread, you can tell who's in the IT world, who's a dev and so on.
But a phrase I never hear anymore is "Ribbon cable"
or
CD Tray,CD Drive, pretty much anything to do to with a CD is obsolete.

CD-ROM )

[Dongulator]

Best thread, you can tell who's in the IT world, who's a dev and so on.
But a phrase I never hear anymore is "Ribbon cable"
or
CD Tray,CD Drive, pretty much anything to do to with a CD is obsolete.

CD-ROM )

Just using the word Rom is so old. right, Computers used to have Ram and Rom... Ughh I'm getting old

[Waateva]

We still have an intranet. 95% of our company calls it SharePoint, I like to call it hell.

We used tapes as well up until last year. It's still a viable cold storage option, and not a bad one at that. The backup software used to write to the tapes on the other hand....(LOOKING AT YOU BACKUPEXEC)

Oh god, and the massive robot we used to store, write to and eject our tapes was enormous. Now there is a huge space where it once was, and all our tapes got destroyed. Lol.

Like the machine that Vanessa Williams uses to steal the railgun files in the movie Eraser?

[katushkin]

We still have an intranet. 95% of our company calls it SharePoint, I like to call it hell.

We used tapes as well up until last year. It's still a viable cold storage option, and not a bad one at that. The backup software used to write to the tapes on the other hand....(LOOKING AT YOU BACKUPEXEC)

Oh god, and the massive robot we used to store, write to and eject our tapes was enormous. Now there is a huge space where it once was, and all our tapes got destroyed. Lol.

Like the machine that Vanessa Williams uses to steal the railgun files in the movie Eraser?

I have not seen that movie.

But it was basically a self contained storage/robot/drive enclosure that sat at the end of our DC. Probably about 18ft long, 6ft wide and 10ft high. You could walk in there and there were these robot arms on rails, and tapes stacked in two sections about 12 tapes high. A lot of storage space, but most of it was empty by the time we decom'd it because we have moved everything to virtual. Finally.

[Pdub]

"Intranet"

Do people not use this word anymore? 

Some companies do.

I don't think anyone uses HDD any more. It's all SSD now. Am I right?

[katushkin]

"Intranet"

Do people not use this word anymore? 

Some companies do.

I don't think anyone uses HDD any more. It's all SSD now. Am I right?

Our main data domains are all HDD, but our blades are all SSDs.

[Pdub]

"Intranet"

Do people not use this word anymore? 

Some companies do.

I don't think anyone uses HDD any more. It's all SSD now. Am I right?

Our main data domains are all HDD, but our blades are all SSDs.

What kind of blades?

[katushkin]

"Intranet"

Do people not use this word anymore? 

Some companies do.

I don't think anyone uses HDD any more. It's all SSD now. Am I right?

Our main data domains are all HDD, but our blades are all SSDs.

What kind of blades?

Uhhhh, HP ProLiant Gen 7 stuff.

[Krytone]

Shared Drive

[LXXXIX]

cyber

[katushkin]

Shared Drive

Lol... Still use it XD

[atectatifern]

instream data
EBCDIC
timesharing (but see "cloud")
terminal (but see "endpoint")
partitioned data set
COMMON block
baud rate
JOB card
finger
DD statement

[Krytone]

Shared Drive

Lol... Still use it XD

We just changed and now use sharepoint for additional security

[Snowdog993]

Okay. So what is the new word now? And why did it change? We still have local networks that host internal services for companies, no? What should I be calling this now?

LAN

Intranet is right. LAN is a much broader term. At least that his how I feel.

That is correct.

I will edit to make it more clear.  You can have several intranets in a LAN.  It's not the other way around.

[Jokrik]

Bus cable

[jaffers]

HDD
Windows
AMD CPU

[sean]

HDD
Windows
AMD CPU

Those burn like a 220w tdp

[Krytone]

Cobol

[animal]

Insert disk labeled "whatever" and press any key to continue...

And some funny ones

General failure reading drive c:
Who is general failure and why is he reading my disk?

Keyboard not connected press F1 to continue...

[Snowdog993]

ISA
EISA
VESA
RLL
MFM
Math Co-Processor (x87)

[animal]

ISA
EISA
VESA
RLL
MFM
Math Co-Processor (x87)

ESDI
ERROR 1701
SIMM (memory)

[Snowdog993]

ISA
EISA
VESA
RLL
MFM
Math Co-Processor (x87)

ESDI
ERROR 1701
SIMM (memory)

ERROR 1701!!!!!!  How could I forget that? 

[hashbaz]

AUTOEXEC.BAT
CONFIG.SYS
MEMMAKER.EXE

shareware

[Snowdog993]

AUTOEXEC.BAT
CONFIG.SYS
MEMMAKER.EXE

shareware

QEMM

[sth]

mouse balls

[hashbaz]

mouse balls

Cleaning the schmutz out of mouse ball rollers with a Rambo knife.

[rm-rf]

bulletin board system!

[Niomosy]

tape backups

Audit came down hard for going strictly to virtual tape with no offsite backups.  The storage team had to put in new tape units to back up from the VTL disk pool and send the tape offsite.  I had to build a couple new servers to handle that as well as additional server backups.

[rowdy]

"bureau system" - all the kids call it "cloud services" these days.

[Lurch]

WINS
NT4
Citrix Metaframe

[baldgye]

winfs

[Lurch]

SCSI/scuzzi drives

[Findecanor]

cyber

As in a IRC channel: "Hey girl, wanna cyber?" ...

bulletin board system!

I have not heard "BBS" in a long time, but people use "board" about boards such as this one ...

[baldgye]

ASL

[Lurch]

broadband

[keshley]

cyber

This one bugs the hell out of me. It sounded lame 20 years ago, why is it a buzzword now?

I heard somebody say "memory chips" yesterday. Haven't heard that in a long time.

I half agree with Lurch on SCSI, except the last S in SAS stands for SCSI...

CPU (Not in reference to the processor, but to the computer itself)
Mainframe (A Hollywood staple)
PATA
MFM
FD
NDS
Nuke and Pave
8.3
Apple Talk
Token Ring
CMOS
Defrag
IPX
GUI (pretty much replaced with UI/UX)
Dot Matrix
CRT
VLB/EISA/ISA... etc
Color Graphics Array
Microprocessor
Zip (now we compress or archive, we don't 'zip' files)
IRQ (I hear interrupt or interrupt requests, but not the old school IRQ anymore)
Y2k
SIMM
Daughter board
Standalone (still a thing, but not called this anymore)
Terminator (for both thin/thicknet and old school SCSI)
Vax
Warm boot
Hard reset

I'm sure I could come up with more...

And can we please retire the term Cable Modem... they neither modulate nor demodulate.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

Dot Matrix

I wish this was the case where I work... our day-to-day operations rely heavily on paper tickets printed on dot matrix printers.

[Nai_Calus]

IPX/SPX and Netware in general.

[digi]

IPX/SPX and Netware in general.

Good one, AppleTalk = worst network protocol NA.

[HoffmanMyster]

bulletin board system!

I have not heard "BBS" in a long time, but people use "board" about boards such as this one ...

We use BBS tags on this forum all the time. 

[digi]

We use BBS tags on this forum all the time. 

[HoffmanMyster]

We use BBS tags on this forum all the time. 

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wat did i do  :(

[digi]

We use BBS tags on this forum all the time. 

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wat did i do  :(

You mean BBCodes? BBS is bulletin board....can't take you anywhere...ugh.

[HoffmanMyster]

We use BBS tags on this forum all the time. 

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wat did i do  :(

You mean BBCodes? BBS is bulletin board....can't take you anywhere...ugh.

Yeah I meant BBCodes.  :-[  I'm the worst.  Are they not even related??

* HoffmanMyster leaves this thread  :(

[digi]

We use BBS tags on this forum all the time. 

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wat did i do  :(

You mean BBCodes? BBS is bulletin board....can't take you anywhere...ugh.

Yeah I meant BBCodes.  :-[  I'm the worst.  Are they not even related??

* HoffmanMyster leaves this thread  :(

Ok, now I feel bad...come back hoff. Give me your kishsaver and we'll be friends again.

[HoffmanMyster]

Yeah I meant BBCodes.    I'm the worst.  Are they not even related??

* HoffmanMyster leaves this thread 

Ok, now I feel bad...come back hoff. Give me your kishsaver and we'll be friends again.

Nuuuuu, I've been trying so hard to fit in but now I have revealed my poor IT knowledge!  There's no coming back from this shame.

[digi]

Yeah I meant BBCodes.    I'm the worst.  Are they not even related??

* HoffmanMyster leaves this thread 

Ok, now I feel bad...come back hoff. Give me your kishsaver and we'll be friends again.

Nuuuuu, I've been trying so hard to fit in but now I have revealed my poor IT knowledge!  There's no coming back from this shame.

True..it will take time..

[keshley]

We use BBS tags on this forum all the time. 

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wat did i do  :(

You mean BBCodes? BBS is bulletin board....can't take you anywhere...ugh.

Yeah I meant BBCodes.  :-[  I'm the worst.  Are they not even related??

* HoffmanMyster leaves this thread  :(

Silly Hoff.

BBS is kind of like what you'd call a forum today. Except you (typically) had to dial into them with a modem. They did a lot more than just forums though, could include chat rooms, multi-player games, etc.

Assuming they're related isn't a reach if you look at the acronyms. BBS: Bulletin Board System. BBCode: Bulletin Board Code. So if you've never used a BBS, it would be reasonable to think BBS is related to a modern forum.

They're still some BBSes around from what I understand. I was never big on them personally.

[digi]

We use BBS tags on this forum all the time. 

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wat did i do  :(

You mean BBCodes? BBS is bulletin board....can't take you anywhere...ugh.

Yeah I meant BBCodes.  :-[  I'm the worst.  Are they not even related??

* HoffmanMyster leaves this thread  :(

Silly Hoff.

BBS is kind of like what you'd call a forum today. Except you (typically) had to dial into them with a modem. They did a lot more than just forums though, could include chat rooms, multi-player games, etc.

Assuming they're related isn't a reach if you look at the acronyms. BBS: Bulletin Board System. BBCode: Bulletin Board Code. So if you've never used a BBS, it would be reasonable to think BBS is related to a modern forum.

They're still some BBSes around from what I understand. I was never big on them personally.

KICK HIM WHILE HE'S DOWN!!

[davkol]

VESA

VESA is still used, but not in that context. It's a standards organization after all. For instance, we still have VESA mode on Linux systems, and people tend to call the VESA MIS standard for monitor mounts just "VESA".

[animal]

ASL

Old enough/yes/anywhere

[animal]

Someone mentioned shareware, I liked public domain more. But the best shareware program ever developed was by far Terminate! In fact I used Terminate when I connected the first time to the internet
BBS? Yeah I had one, I even had a Fidonet node 2:410:30/thirthysomething! which reminds me:
ATZ
OK
ATX3
OK
ATT
OK
ATC2
AT&W
OK
Xmodem
Zmodem
v.32 v32bis and v.EVERYTHING (except for ZYX16800)
NS16650
Norton Commander was my best friend, along with the utilities
Norton Disk Doctor and editor
Norton Speeddisk (disk caching)
Another great program (shell actually)
4DOS
Qedit. It was a DOS editor which had no problem at all to open very extremely large text files
And for multitasking Quarterdeck's Deskview
I could go on and on... those were the days

[Niomosy]

HDDs are still in use.  We use them plenty at work because SSDs are nice and all but when you need many petabytes of data and need multiple tiers of data, HDDs are still far cheaper.

As for mainframes.  Yeah, not really.  They're still huge with various companies.  I've watched companies spend millions upon millions trying to do one thing; replace their mainframe.  The main problem with mainframes is lack of people to support them.  I'm not sure I know anyone familiar with mainframes in the US that's under the age 50.  I've tinkered with them in a mainframe emulator (Hercules) running MVS 3.8j as well as having had access to them at work but IBM mainframes, at least, are a different world of computing.

For my list.

SNA - I was so glad when some companies we work with killed their SNA requirement.  I had to support SNA services running on AIX.  Supported it on Solaris at a previous job.  What a pain. 
VMS
AOS (Data General's competitor to VMS)
VSOS (Wang's competitor to VMS)
Dynix/ptx (Sequent's Unix, bought by IBM)
DEC Alpha - remember how those were going to be the future?
SGI Irix
Cray Unicos
DR DOS
Amiga - I kid, sort of
Atari ST
DB25
ATDT!  Hey, if we're doing AT commands, we need that one.

[inanis]

Here is one I miss hearing (not really)...

"Has anyone checked the Majordomo server?"

[HoffmanMyster]

Majordomo

Major Domo?

[inanis]

Majordomo

Major Domo?

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Hahaha!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majordomo_%28software%29
Basically, it is a mailing list software. So before people could all get online and easily chat there were these mailing list servers that you could email and have it go out to all the recipients. We had one that ran on old ass Spark hardware using an equally old version of Solaris. I HATED IT.

[rm-rf]

modem drivers
ISA slot
AGP slot


And for someone that said SCSI drives. I still use them :\

[hashbaz]

Zip (now we compress or archive, we don't 'zip' files)

I still zip files all the time. I just don't use PKZIP.EXE anymore.

[davkol]

ISA cards are still used in some industries.

[N3RDLY]

Okay. So what is the new word now? And why did it change? We still have local networks that host internal services for companies, no? What should I be calling this now?

LAN

And if they can still VPN into that network?

VLAN! (Just kidding please don't throw your other shoe at me)

[dgneo]

scanreg /restore

[davkol]

ZIP floppies…

[G-Dubs]

"Classful Networking". I got my AA in networking a few years ago and the curriculum still had it. I'm getting better at using CIDR jargon, but every now and then I start referring to classful IP ranges, which a bad habit I really need to break out of.

[gain]

DB25

I'd love to pair Centronics 36 with this one, a contract I did last year exposed me to the wonders of old label printers and how some companies simply cannot let go of their aging units.

What's interesting to me is that they're not -that- old either.

[Glenmael]

HTFUP

(Harden The F- Up)

[Lokomotivet]

Virus

[hashbaz]

programmer

Apparently we're "coders" now. When did that happen?

[dgneo]

programmer

Apparently we're "coders" now. When did that happen?

[N3RDLY]

9-5

[rowdy]

programmer

Apparently we're "coders" now. When did that happen?

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AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

[smknjoe]

programmer

Apparently we're "coders" now. When did that happen?

Yep. Sort of like calling a writer (or author) a "texter".

[LXXXIX]

programmer

Apparently we're "coders" now. When did that happen?

Yep. Sort of like calling a writer (or author) a "texter".

I've never heard this term used this way before.

[smknjoe]

Coding or texting? It could be argued that it's strange to call an author a "texter" because the "body" of his work is text. Therefore, It could be said that it's equally strange to call a programmer a "coder" because the "body" of his work is code.

Programmers have traditionally called: programmers, software engineers, or developers. Coder is another term for programmer that's really only become mainstream in the last 5-10 years.

Edit: I don't care either way...just sayin' I agree with Hashbaz that it sounds a little strange when you think about it...

[hashbaz]

Feels like it coincided with the "everyone can/should code" movement.

[tp4tissue]

VESA

VESA is still used, but not in that context. It's a standards organization after all. For instance, we still have VESA mode on Linux systems, and people tend to call the VESA MIS standard for monitor mounts just "VESA".

I still can't believe those guys get paid for what's essentially ball parking how far apart to place screw holes..  .. oh that's a big monitor, gotta be like what 100 mm.. yea that sounds bout right.. u owe me $100 for that thx....

[Liocer]

"Intranet"
"Hub"
"ISDN"

Post your favorite outdated IT words.....or don't, and watch us IT people do it. =D

How is intranet outdated?

[deductivemonkee]

Life is an IT word I have never heard

[hashbaz]

How is intranet outdated?

We had this debate a page or so back.

[xtrafrood]

HDD jumper settings
EIDE/IDE
The word 'Application'

[Liocer]

How is intranet outdated?

We had this debate a page or so back.

Yeah I read up after the post

Can I add... sysop

[rowdy]

programmer

Apparently we're "coders" now. When did that happen?

Yep. Sort of like calling a writer (or author) a "texter".

And calling a computer a programmee )

[Findecanor]

Intel Iris Graphics.
AMD Jaguar microarchitecture.

[Waateva]

Intel Iris Graphics.
AMD Jaguar microarchitecture.

Man, I wanted a Jaguar SO BAD when I was younger.

[N3RDLY]

Intel Iris Graphics.
AMD Jaguar microarchitecture.

Man, I wanted a Jaguar SO BAD when I was younger.

So did I lol and a Neo Geo.

Another word I don't hear as much these days is VGA

[xtrafrood]

Intel Iris Graphics.
AMD Jaguar microarchitecture.

Man, I wanted a Jaguar SO BAD when I was younger.

So did I lol and a Neo Geo.

Another word I don't hear as much these days is VGA

Same here. I remember reading about them in random video game books I would find at the library.

[swill]

Cloud...

Haha.  Companies everywhere are cloud washes their products and about 2% of the population actually knows what it even means...

[jdcarpe]

Cloud...

Haha.  Companies everywhere are cloud washes their products and about 2% of the population actually knows what it even means...

Cloud just means your stuff is on someone else's computer.

[swill]

Cloud...

Haha.  Companies everywhere are cloud washes their products and about 2% of the population actually knows what it even means...

Cloud just means your stuff is on someone else's computer.

Haha. Ya, I saw that sticker on the interwebs. That was well played.

[rowdy]

Intel Iris Graphics.
AMD Jaguar microarchitecture.

Man, I wanted a Jaguar SO BAD when I was younger.

So did I lol and a Neo Geo.

Another word I don't hear as much these days is VGA

I saw VGA recently in the news - people saying that VGA was finally dead.

)

[davkol]

programmer

Apparently we're "coders" now. When did that happen?

Standardization of the industry, I suppose. More division of labor, at least in corporate environment.

IMHO there are relatively large semantic differences.

A coder a specialist, that writes code, but doesn't do architecture/design (or other high-level decisions); they don't have to be programming though (e.g., if they write only HTML&CSS). Just like a tester only tests the product.
A software developer, on the other hand, does a little bit of everything.
And a programmer is anyone, who programs machines, including CNC, in which case you probably wouldn't call them a developer.

[hashbaz]

Those divisions have always existed. What's new is I now hear people talk about going to school to "learn to code", or getting asked "you're a coder aren't you?"

Even junior programmers design their solutions to match the requirements of the specs that they're given by higher-ups. Coding used to refer literally to just the typing part of writing a computer program, but now people seem to view the whole process as coding.

[davkol]

Not to such extent. I like this analogy with plumbing.

[N3RDLY]

Cloud...

Haha.  Companies everywhere are cloud washes their products and about 2% of the population actually knows what it even means...

Cloud just means your stuff is on someone else's computer.

Haha. Ya, I saw that sticker on the interwebs. That was well played.

You mean like the one I have on my work laptop.

[xtrafrood]

Cloud...

Haha.  Companies everywhere are cloud washes their products and about 2% of the population actually knows what it even means...

Cloud just means your stuff is on someone else's computer.

Haha. Ya, I saw that sticker on the interwebs. That was well played.

You mean like the one I have on my work laptop.

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I need that on a shirt.

(Found it!  :p )

[rm-rf]

micons.... animated icons.

https://micons.wordpress.com/category/hans-peter-br%C3%B8ndmo/

[katushkin]

"We don't need Data Centres anymore, we'll just put it all on the cloud!"

So, in someone else's Data Centre?

[swill]

Cloud...

Haha.  Companies everywhere are cloud washes their products and about 2% of the population actually knows what it even means...

Cloud just means your stuff is on someone else's computer.

Haha. Ya, I saw that sticker on the interwebs. That was well played.

You mean like the one I have on my work laptop.

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Yep. That's the one. :)

[swill]

"We don't need Data Centres anymore, we'll just put it all on the cloud!"

So, in someone else's Data Centre?

Ya basically.

[engicoder]

For the old guys:

ABEND

[smknjoe]

Coding used to refer literally to just the typing part of writing a computer program, but now people seem to view the whole process as coding.

Yep, and the code itself.

[atectatifern]

For the old guys:

ABEND

e.g. 804, need more core

[RabRhee]

Winchesters
Plotters
Prestel
Luggable
RS232 / Serial mouse
BRS - Big Red Switch
Assembler
CS:IP

[SpAmRaY]

Winchesters
Plotters
Prestel
Luggable
RS232 / Serial mouse
BRS - Big Red Switch
Assembler
CS:IP

Plotters is outdated?

I supposed we are supposed to call them large format printers?

ps: whats up?

[engicoder]

For the old guys:

ABEND

e.g. 804, need more core

My favorite was 222, somebody hates you

[RabRhee]

Winchesters
Plotters
Prestel
Luggable
RS232 / Serial mouse
BRS - Big Red Switch
Assembler
CS:IP

Plotters is outdated?

I supposed we are supposed to call them large format printers?

ps: whats up?

Hey man :>

Do you call the large format printer a plotter, or is it actually still a proper pen plotter? No-one I know uses a pen plotter anymore, not for years, perhaps some still call it a plotter for nostalgia, I will file that on my winchester.

[Findecanor]

Plotters is outdated?

I know a guy who uses large-format plotters every day at his day job at a construction firm.
A few years ago, Adam Savage (who is a major movie fan) drew a really really detailed map of Middle Earth and released the file for free. My friend used the plotter to render it instead of a large-format printer because it had better quality for line-art.

[Perish]

Baud
Tandy
386
Sierra

I could go on but I might cry soon.

[SpAmRaY]

Winchesters
Plotters
Prestel
Luggable
RS232 / Serial mouse
BRS - Big Red Switch
Assembler
CS:IP

Plotters is outdated?

I supposed we are supposed to call them large format printers?

ps: whats up?

Hey man :>

Do you call the large format printer a plotter, or is it actually still a proper pen plotter? No-one I know uses a pen plotter anymore, not for years, perhaps some still call it a plotter for nostalgia, I will file that on my winchester.

Oh it's all about the nostalgia.

[keshley]

I'd like to counter some of these:

ISDN is still widely used, particularly in business.

RS232 also very common still.

Intel Iris is pretty new, and getting significantly better with each revision.

[jwaz]

What's with all the serial hate? Y'all are trippin', RS232 is still hella useful

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[Malenky]

The prefix "e".

Chip.

And the final one that annoys me is "livestream" instead of just "stream". I know they are semantically slightly different but the word "live" feels so obsolete whenever I see it used.

[HoffmanMyster]

What's with all the serial hate? Y'all are trippin', RS232 is still hella useful

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^-^

What a blast.

[digi]

I'd like to counter some of these:

ISDN is still widely used, particularly in business.

RS232 also very common still.

Intel Iris is pretty new, and getting significantly better with each revision.

Who and where still uses ISDN? The DMV??

[hashbaz]

The prefix "e".

Chip.

And the final one that annoys me is "livestream" instead of just "stream". I know they are semantically slightly different but the word "live" feels so obsolete whenever I see it used.

Agree on "e-", disagree on "live". How would you prefer people distinguish a stream that is a live feed from a stream of recorded media?

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 ^-^

What a blast.

Haha I forgot I almost banned you at Keycon. Good times.  :)) :cool:

[keshley]

I'd like to counter some of these:

ISDN is still widely used, particularly in business.

RS232 also very common still.

Intel Iris is pretty new, and getting significantly better with each revision.

Who and where still uses ISDN? The DMV??

Think small offices in the middle of nowhere. Post offices. Banks. Anything that requires five-nines uptime. So tens of thousands of locations, across North America.

[rowdy]

What's with all the serial hate? Y'all are trippin', RS232 is still hella useful

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+1

Although I had to get a USB to serial adaptor for my server so I could use my Link terminal (MX blacks in its keyboard).

[Findecanor]

Think small offices in the middle of nowhere. Post offices. Banks. Anything that requires five-nines uptime. So tens of thousands of locations, across North America.

Across the world! So US-centric you are ...
Anyway, I have seen recent job ads where banks are looking for programmers who know COBOL.

Intel Iris is pretty new, and getting significantly better with each revision.

While Intel Iris is very new, the word "Iris" as a brand-name for graphics hardware is not. And that was my point ...

[keshley]

Think small offices in the middle of nowhere. Post offices. Banks. Anything that requires five-nines uptime. So tens of thousands of locations, across North America.

Across the world! So US-centric you are ...
Anyway, I have seen recent job ads where banks are looking for programmers who know COBOL.

I have no experience on ISDN usage outside of North America, hence the disclaimer