They were not mean, nor meant to be mean. I have no idea what you're going on about- it appears that you've been 'triggered'. You know **** about me, including the fact that I got him a pretty sweet board for Summer Santa, because that's just the type of person I am. He does seem like an OK guy, but we just have different views, and his way of expressing them as this thread has gone on has been, I guess matching the tenor of the 'other side'. I just call 'em like I see 'em. But whatever, as you said, I don't care- I was just responding to your jumping in unsolicited when I was trying to figure out what he was trying to say. But too much energy spent on this. Onward!
wait you were my secret santa? Lol. Sweet board indeed. political discussions are a bit dangerous especially online. I don't think of you as mean, but I don't believe you're central. Maybe not a Hillary lover or a Trump lover, but you only argue against right ideas here, so I assume you are leaning left.
Not even. I want government out of my finances and out of my life. I think it should be small, and only used when needed in specific instances. I hate the tax system, and would love something like a flat tax. As a consultant, I spend too much of my time and money on taxes and accountants, when to incentivize foreign nationals, they reduce or eliminate tax liability of their businesses and income. I hate the welfare system- it's turning us into a welfare state. I could go on and on, and you'd see that specific things I argue against and for... not one way or the other, but based on that particular issue falls. And with healthcare, having a mandate forces people to take on some of their own healthcare, and hopefully gets them to take better care of themselves rather than waiting until they have stage 4 cancer to go to the doctor, and thus putting more strain on the system. That's why I support some kind of mandate. The amount of money that hospitals lose from people not having insurance and coming to the ER is pretty criminal. That's really the only thing I've argued here- unless I forget. This is getting to be a pretty long thread LOL. Given a choice between all candidates, my choice would have been more towards Ben Carson. He had some really good ideas, and was pretty much torpedoed by the MSM. I don't think he was the
perfect candidate. But given the field, I don't think you could really find one.
And just for the record, I was really trying to find out what you meant by stereotyping- I thought that came out of left field, and was wondering what I might have said to engender that remark. But I don't think of anyone as ... anything, really from online discourse. Even when trying to be real, people are different than they are in personal conversations- even when trying to be snarky or mean. I think, in fact, especially during those times.
And I got as much as you did from it... I never knew anything about BS boards. I mean, I knew about them... I had several long ago- just happened to come with the computers I was using. But I didn't know anything about the internals or the types or that different years were important to the board. Thanks to you for giving me that opportunity!
But as I said above... Onward!
Political arguments are dangerous in the sense that they reveal deeply held beliefs reflected in who or what we support politically. They have more to do with challenging who people are, what they believe, and how they think, than actual politics.
Now, if political arguments were conducted as competing arguments supported by a factual analysis, research, and civil debate, they would not result in so many butthurt, angry individuals.
But our education system and culture has failed to foster such type of debate, and the anti-intellectual sentiment is strong.
By the way, the idea of right vs. left is simply designed to divide people that have mostly the same interests to gain their vote while the people we elect use our vote for their own purposes and gains. It's a false duality designed to reduce the complexity of political arguments to appeal to our natural desire for false dualities. When you start questioning the assumption that half of the voters are your opponent, you start to see the BS political system for what it is.
Happy Thanksgiving, fellow proles!
Preach! I like to have conversations to learn, and help to enrich myself with other views - even opposing views. But it doesn't seem that most people want to do that these days, now that we have forums to have such conversations. And that's sad.