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Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 04:00:34 »
Does anyone know if even one gal has ever posted here on GH? You can't really tell with the nicks, and I may be completely wrong—but judging from the dialogue, it's always seemed like everyone here was a guy. After, like, three years of babbling away here with y'all, this just occurred to me.

So, are only guys drawn to keeb stuff? If so, why do you suppose that is? Keebs don't seem like something that'd be gender-limited. Gals type, right? And if you're gonna type, why wouldn't you want a nice MK that felt and sounded so much better than an RD or membrane, and looked prettier, and maybe even lit up and did disco effects? This all seems like it could be as much a female thing as male. But no? Why? Discuss.
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 04:02:22 »
I thought it'd be fun to include a relevant graphic here, so I Googled:

keyboard male female

...and got this, of course:


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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 04:06:13 »
Yes there are girls.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 04:09:47 »
Yes, several. (statistically there has to be lol)

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 04:10:18 »
Yes there are girls.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 06:31:24 »
I've seen several girls at both the UK and the Dutch meetups.

That said, according to Youtube, my viewer demographics are 96% male.
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 06:40:30 »
I'm super female

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 08:46:57 »
With TP4 as chief recruiter, what do you think?
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 09:43:34 »
I've seen several girls at both the UK and the Dutch meetups.

That said, according to Youtube, my viewer demographics are 96% male.
Lmao dropping the stats


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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 10:11:24 »
I've seen several girls at both the UK and the Dutch meetups.

That said, according to Youtube, my viewer demographics are 96% male.
Lmao dropping the stats

I counted up the meetups videos every year.

There are double the quantity of the GH forum stat, But at least 1/2 of those meetup females are not true enthusiasts, they're either someone's girlfriend or just didn't have a "Real" party to goto that day.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 11:27:50 »

females are not true enthusiasts


Thanks buddy, you're really helping the cause, as always.
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 12:55:16 »


I counted up the meetups videos every year.

There are double the quantity of the GH forum stat, But at least 1/2 of those meetup females are not true enthusiasts, they're either someone's girlfriend or just didn't have a "Real" party to goto that day.



Thanks buddy, you're really helping the cause, as always.


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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 13:31:43 »
The official membership stats suggest a 29.8:1 ratio, though what gender the many banned spambots identify as I wouldn't like to say!
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 13:39:34 »
The official membership stats suggest a 29.8:1 ratio, though what gender the many banned spambots identify as I wouldn't like to say!

Most engineering departments have 1:15,    so.. that would be a more accurate reference number for females in this hobby..

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 14:15:32 »
The official membership stats suggest a 29.8:1 ratio, though what gender the many banned spambots identify as I wouldn't like to say!
How is this information gathered? Most forums have a Gender category next to Age and Location in the profile area but I can't find it for Geekhack.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 15:47:45 »
The official membership stats suggest a 29.8:1 ratio, though what gender the many banned spambots identify as I wouldn't like to say!
How is this information gathered? Most forums have a Gender category next to Age and Location in the profile area but I can't find it for Geekhack.

Yeah uh that's fishy, no ticker anywhere.

In any case I suppose you could add me to the 3.4%, though that is not in spite of the cultural pressure surrounding the artificial gendering of interests since I haven't exactly had to deal with that myself. The absurd male to female ratio has nothing to do with the people themselves and everything to do with what society expects from people, which is a shame.
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 15:58:26 »
The official membership stats suggest a 29.8:1 ratio, though what gender the many banned spambots identify as I wouldn't like to say!
How is this information gathered? Most forums have a Gender category next to Age and Location in the profile area but I can't find it for Geekhack.

Yeah uh that's fishy, no ticker anywhere.

In any case I suppose you could add me to the 3.4%, though that is not in spite of the cultural pressure surrounding the artificial gendering of interests since I haven't exactly had to deal with that myself. The absurd male to female ratio has nothing to do with the people themselves and everything to do with what society expects from people, which is a shame.

"what society expects from people, which is a shame."

It is not completely correct to blame society, since labor organization and ancillaries are designed around the mechanical differences between genders.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 16:48:38 »
The official membership stats suggest a 29.8:1 ratio, though what gender the many banned spambots identify as I wouldn't like to say!
How is this information gathered? Most forums have a Gender category next to Age and Location in the profile area but I can't find it for Geekhack.
Is it included during registration but due to 'old fashioned thinking' it's assumed to be static so it doesn't show anywhere?  It's been a while since I registered so can't say I remember either way...
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 17:22:48 »
I could be either


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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 18:10:58 »
I could be either

Saw a documentary about that recently.
Oh a ‘documentary’ hey

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 18:14:38 »
Very busy with studies atm.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 18:16:08 »
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
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Very busy with studies atm.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 18:25:51 »
Does anyone know if even one gal has ever posted here on GH? You can't really tell with the nicks, and I may be completely wrong—but judging from the dialogue, it's always seemed like everyone here was a guy. After, like, three years of babbling away here with y'all, this just occurred to me.

So, are only guys drawn to keeb stuff? If so, why do you suppose that is? Keebs don't seem like something that'd be gender-limited. Gals type, right? And if you're gonna type, why wouldn't you want a nice MK that felt and sounded so much better than an RD or membrane, and looked prettier, and maybe even lit up and did disco effects? This all seems like it could be as much a female thing as male. But no? Why? Discuss.


My ladyfriend isn't real into the forum thing but she absolutely loves mechanical keyboards. She had a saber68 that we're about the take apart. She went to keycon with me. Actually she even drove us there. She helped solder the keyboard that I'm typing on now. As soon as zeal ships these stabilizers that I ordered we'll be modding some silent blacks together so she can build her kbd75. She's absloutely into the scene. Just not the forums as much.

I get what you mean though. My ex girlfriend typed all of the time and could care less about mechanical keyboards which is mind blowing to me. But yeah, there are some women that are into this. I saw a few at keycon when I went as well.


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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 19:40:37 »
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Log out and click register, you can check for yourself.


Are there women here, of course.
Why do you need to know what the gender is of the person you are talking to? It shouldn't, we discuss keyboards, not periods or sex, and as I love pointing out to Tp4tissue every time he brings up the topic, it's not a dating site.


Unless you are prepared to have a conversation about sexism and women in tech, you don't want this conversation because trying to have an honest conversation about it ends with a few guys lashing out with hurt feelings. And we can't have that! Then it just devolves into a bunch of guys saying it's not them (it is) and it's not that bad (it is) and then start pointing out how some women take advantage of it (which some do), ignoring that the guys enable this behavior (by giving free stuff) and that many of those women are actually guys pretending (because free stuff).

Bottom line is this,  we're here, but we hide because it causes more problems than it helps.
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 19:52:38 »
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Are there women here, of course.
Why do you need to know what the gender is of the person you are talking to? It shouldn't, we discuss keyboards, not periods or sex, and as I love pointing out to Tp4tissue every time he brings up the topic, it's not a dating site.


Unless you are prepared to have a conversation about sexism and women in tech, you don't want this conversation because trying to have an honest conversation about it ends with a few guys lashing out with hurt feelings. And we can't have that! Then it just devolves into a bunch of guys saying it's not them (it is) and it's not that bad (it is) and then start pointing out how some women take advantage of it (which some do), ignoring that the guys enable this behavior (by giving free stuff) and that many of those women are actually guys pretending (because free stuff).

Bottom line is this,  we're here, but we hide because it causes more problems than it helps.

I reply to these threads for the meme
I honestly couldn't care less about the gender of internet strangers
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 20:22:10 »



and as I love pointing out to Tp4tissue every time he brings up the topic, it's not a dating site.


Heh.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #29 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 21:03:22 »
Registration doesn't ask.
Log out and click register, you can check for yourself.


Are there women here, of course.
Why do you need to know what the gender is of the person you are talking to? It shouldn't, we discuss keyboards, not periods or sex, and as I love pointing out to Tp4tissue every time he brings up the topic, it's not a dating site.


Unless you are prepared to have a conversation about sexism and women in tech, you don't want this conversation because trying to have an honest conversation about it ends with a few guys lashing out with hurt feelings. And we can't have that! Then it just devolves into a bunch of guys saying it's not them (it is) and it's not that bad (it is) and then start pointing out how some women take advantage of it (which some do), ignoring that the guys enable this behavior (by giving free stuff) and that many of those women are actually guys pretending (because free stuff).

Bottom line is this,  we're here, but we hide because it causes more problems than it helps.


I agree with Lesliann,  we should have a Gekhak -Dating- section..

Volunteers needed to invigilate / confirm account.





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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #30 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 21:04:34 »
Registration doesn't ask.
Log out and click register, you can check for yourself.


Are there women here, of course.
Why do you need to know what the gender is of the person you are talking to? It shouldn't, we discuss keyboards, not periods or sex, and as I love pointing out to Tp4tissue every time he brings up the topic, it's not a dating site.


Unless you are prepared to have a conversation about sexism and women in tech, you don't want this conversation because trying to have an honest conversation about it ends with a few guys lashing out with hurt feelings. And we can't have that! Then it just devolves into a bunch of guys saying it's not them (it is) and it's not that bad (it is) and then start pointing out how some women take advantage of it (which some do), ignoring that the guys enable this behavior (by giving free stuff) and that many of those women are actually guys pretending (because free stuff).

Bottom line is this,  we're here, but we hide because it causes more problems than it helps.


I agree with Lesliann,  we should have a Gekhak -Dating- section..


We do. Meetups.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 21:25:16 »
We do. Meetups.

keyboard community meatup orgies. shhh, tp doesn't need to know about them  :blank:

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 21:33:58 »
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Are there women here, of course.
Why do you need to know what the gender is of the person you are talking to? It shouldn't, we discuss keyboards, not periods or sex, and as I love pointing out to Tp4tissue every time he brings up the topic, it's not a dating site.


Unless you are prepared to have a conversation about sexism and women in tech, you don't want this conversation because trying to have an honest conversation about it ends with a few guys lashing out with hurt feelings. And we can't have that! Then it just devolves into a bunch of guys saying it's not them (it is) and it's not that bad (it is) and then start pointing out how some women take advantage of it (which some do), ignoring that the guys enable this behavior (by giving free stuff) and that many of those women are actually guys pretending (because free stuff).

Bottom line is this,  we're here, but we hide because it causes more problems than it helps.


I agree with Lesliann,  we should have a Gekhak -Dating- section..

Volunteers needed to invigilate / confirm account.



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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 23:31:22 »
I agree with Lesliann,  we should have a Gekhak -Dating- section..

Volunteers needed to invigilate / confirm account.

I totally approve this, make everyone who wants to participate send a crotch shot to verify.
Enjoy the sausage.  :))
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 23:39:27 »
I agree with Lesliann,  we should have a Gekhak -Dating- section..

Volunteers needed to invigilate / confirm account.

I totally approve this, make everyone who wants to participate send a crotch shot to verify.
Enjoy the sausage.  :))
What if you're vegetarian?

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #35 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 23:53:35 »
I agree with Lesliann,  we should have a Gekhak -Dating- section..

Volunteers needed to invigilate / confirm account.

I totally approve this, make everyone who wants to participate send a crotch shot to verify.
Enjoy the sausage.  :))
What if you're vegetarian?

Coming from a converted vegetarian, you're missing out on a lot

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 00:11:15 »
I agree with Lesliann,  we should have a Gekhak -Dating- section..

Volunteers needed to invigilate / confirm account.

I totally approve this, make everyone who wants to participate send a crotch shot to verify.
Enjoy the sausage.  :))
What if you're vegetarian?

Coming from a converted vegetarian, you're missing out on a lot



S'ok guys.. We'll have a Vegan subsection, and Omnivore subsection..

What's nice is 80% of Vegans are Female..

Hurray for Tp4 (Male)..



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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 04:51:28 »
I agree with Lesliann,  we should have a Gekhak -Dating- section..

Volunteers needed to invigilate / confirm account.

I totally approve this, make everyone who wants to participate send a crotch shot to verify.
Enjoy the sausage.  :))
What if you're vegetarian?
You can ask an expert, but I'm pretty sure it's safe to say it's vegan safe.
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 05:31:34 »
I agree with Lesliann,  we should have a Gekhak -Dating- section..

Volunteers needed to invigilate / confirm account.

I totally approve this, make everyone who wants to participate send a crotch shot to verify.
Enjoy the sausage.  :))
What if you're vegetarian?
You can ask an expert, but I'm pretty sure it's safe to say it's vegan safe.
The sausage is fine but the special sauce comes from a living creature and isn't produced for eating but doesn't require the provider to die - pretty sure that makes it veggie but not vegan...
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 06:44:09 »
As a vegetarian, I don't eat at McDonalds anyway ...

This site was created for techs ("geek") and writers/journalists ("hack") but I get the impression that there mostly techs around here. In tech jobs I've had, there have been women, but few in tech positions: 1/8 at most. At newsrooms and magazines I've been to the gender distributions have been more equal.

Edit: BTW. I would not eat at McDonalds even if I ate meat.
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 10:13:13 »
This whole forum is doing what I expect girls to do.
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 10:22:25 »
As a vegetarian, I don't eat at McDonalds anyway ...

This site was created for techs ("geek") and writers/journalists ("hack") but I get the impression that there mostly techs around here. In tech jobs I've had, there have been women, but few in tech positions: 1/8 at most. At newsrooms and magazines I've been to the gender distributions have been more equal.

Time to go 100% Plant based @ 10% Fats..

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 27 February 2018, 20:48:53 »
Yes, several. (statistically there has to be lol)

Well, you'd think...


With TP4 as chief recruiter, what do you think?

That an unusual number of the peeps here also stand on streetcorners, warning passersby about the impending arrival of evil aliens disguised as Sesame Street characters?


The official membership stats suggest a 29.8:1 ratio, though what gender the many banned spambots identify as I wouldn't like to say!
How is this information gathered? Most forums have a Gender category next to Age and Location in the profile area but I can't find it for Geekhack.

In any case I suppose you could add me to the 3.4%... The absurd male to female ratio has nothing to do with the people themselves and everything to do with what society expects from people, which is a shame.

And yet, people are society—so with that kind of thinking, don't you end up in an M. C. Escher-type endless loop of cause and effect?


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Unless you are prepared to have a conversation about sexism and women in tech, you don't want this conversation because trying to have an honest conversation about it ends with a few guys lashing out with hurt feelings... Then it just devolves into a bunch of guys saying it's not them (it is) and it's not that bad (it is) and then start pointing out how some women take advantage of it (which some do), ignoring that the guys enable this behavior (by giving free stuff) and that many of those women are actually guys pretending (because free stuff)...

Normally I'd agree. Remember, though, we're talking about keyboard geeks—guys who spend much of their time looking down at their fingers and obsessing over small, precisely aligned objects. I think most of them would be so excited by the idea of communicating with females, they wouldn't want to ruin it by asserting their masculinity (which, again, in most cases, wouldn't be much of an issue either, LOL).



I agree with Lesliann,  we should have a Gekhak -Dating- section... Volunteers needed...

That's a great idea—if for no other reason than it's nearly impossible to get a second date once the person you've asked on the first date (which, again, in most cases would be moot) finds out that you do something like collecting keyboards. So if we all started as KB geeks, that'd remove at least one formidable hurdle.
 
The only question for me is, should we encourage KB geeks to reproduce? After all, there's a limited number of vintage MKs in the world, and demand drives prices up. We should think about this carefully.


It is not completely correct to blame society, since labor organization and ancillaries are designed around the mechanical differences between genders.

Not to mention the mechanical differences between posting formats.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 27 February 2018, 21:14:19 »

It is not completely correct to blame society, since labor organization and ancillaries are designed around the mechanical differences between genders.

Not to mention the mechanical differences between posting formats.





Tp4,  Best Format..

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 27 February 2018, 21:36:45 »

It is not completely correct to blame society, since labor organization and ancillaries are designed around the mechanical differences between genders.

Not to mention the mechanical differences between posting formats.




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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 27 February 2018, 21:39:24 »

It is not completely correct to blame society, since labor organization and ancillaries are designed around the mechanical differences between genders.

Not to mention the mechanical differences between posting formats.




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Tp4,  Best Format..

this font is better than yours


I bet to defer


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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 04:21:18 »

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 04:22:25 »

It is not completely correct to blame society, since labor organization and ancillaries are designed around the mechanical differences between genders.

Not to mention the mechanical differences between posting formats.




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this font is better than yours


I bet to defer

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Alright tp. How much?

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 04:40:20 »
this font is better than yours

I've had to resort to a userstyle to cope with all the large teal. Only so much one can handle.

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« Reply #49 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 04:48:52 »
Normally I'd agree. Remember, though, we're talking about keyboard geeks—guys who spend much of their time looking down at their fingers and obsessing over small, precisely aligned objects. I think most of them would be so excited by the idea of communicating with females, they wouldn't want to ruin it by asserting their masculinity (which, again, in most cases, wouldn't be much of an issue either, LOL).
Yeaaah, everyone thinks "not me/us".

Geeks and techs are better about it until you cross some imaginary line, then they can actually be some of the most sexist you will find. All that pent up aggression from how they were treated in school comes out and they can get outright nasty.
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 05:54:40 »
I've had to resort to a userstyle to cope with all the large teal. Only so much one can handle.

Really, there's a way to do that? Please say how. People who do adolescent things like this don't realize it's like telling the same joke over and over.
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 06:09:23 »
Really, there's a way to do that? Please say how. People who do adolescent things like this don't realize it's like telling the same joke over and over.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 06:30:21 »
I've had to resort to a userstyle to cope with all the large teal. Only so much one can handle.

Really, there's a way to do that? Please say how. People who do adolescent things like this don't realize it's like telling the same joke over and over.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 06:59:41 »
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 07:21:29 »
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 11:35:37 »
Normally I'd agree. Remember, though, we're talking about keyboard geeks—guys who spend much of their time looking down at their fingers and obsessing over small, precisely aligned objects. I think most of them would be so excited by the idea of communicating with females, they wouldn't want to ruin it by asserting their masculinity (which, again, in most cases, wouldn't be much of an issue either, LOL).
Yeaaah, everyone thinks "not me/us".

Geeks and techs are better about it until you cross some imaginary line, then they can actually be some of the most sexist you will find. All that pent up aggression from how they were treated in school comes out and they can get outright nasty.


Woah.. //Tp4 sending calm waves to LLann

LLann,   There're alot of riffraffs in EVERY community..   Geeks are no exception, you go up to any Normy-nongeeks,  enter a conversation about making sandwiches and laundry, it's very likely they come up with equivalently -secsist- remarks..


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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 19:02:22 »
Tp4tissue,
I'm not even going to quote that in order to give you a chance to rethink and edit that post.
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 19:28:28 »
Tp4tissue,
I'm not even going to quote that in order to give you a chance to rethink and edit that post.

The tech community is very large,  when you make a blanket statement about any large group of people..

That statement is probably just as true in any OTHER large group of people..


So, the underpinning to discrimination one may have encountered IN TECH, is not due TO TECH,

As for how many people being abused at school, holding onto emotional distress, later manifesting into discrimination.. It's a misnomer that everyone on the outgroup of the playground ends up in tech..  it wouldn't even be the majority..

Because relative to ALL other jobs,  Tech is way smaller..   

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 20:09:58 »
Tp4tissue,
I'm not even going to quote that in order to give you a chance to rethink and edit that post.

I'd say the same for yours
blanket statements are not the best way to garner credibility, especially in your case here

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 20:13:11 »
Tp4tissue,
I'm not even going to quote that in order to give you a chance to rethink and edit that post.

I'd say the same for yours
blanket statements are not the best way to garner credibility, especially in your case here

Guys.. it's not a fight..  let's remain cordial ..


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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 20:16:22 »
The tech community is very large,  when you make a blanket statement about any large group of people..

That statement is probably just as true in any OTHER large group of people..


So, the underpinning to discrimination one may have encountered IN TECH, is not due TO TECH,

As for how many people being abused at school, holding onto emotional distress, later manifesting into discrimination.. It's a misnomer that everyone on the outgroup of the playground ends up in tech..  it wouldn't even be the majority..

Because relative to ALL other jobs,  Tech is way smaller.. 

I guess you missed the part where I said "they can be some of the worst", that does not imply all.
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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 20:25:08 »
The tech community is very large,  when you make a blanket statement about any large group of people..

That statement is probably just as true in any OTHER large group of people..


So, the underpinning to discrimination one may have encountered IN TECH, is not due TO TECH,

As for how many people being abused at school, holding onto emotional distress, later manifesting into discrimination.. It's a misnomer that everyone on the outgroup of the playground ends up in tech..  it wouldn't even be the majority..

Because relative to ALL other jobs,  Tech is way smaller.. 

I guess you missed the part where I said "they can be some of the worst", that does not imply all.



I have no certainty of HOW MANY.

But, let's say you were exposed by trade w/ 100 computer guys,  and only 12 non-computer guys..


It's difficult to quantify, and while numerical discrepancy does not disqualify your personal experience..  I think it may be premature to Hand computer guys "The Worst", label.

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« Reply #63 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 20:32:08 »
I have no certainty of HOW MANY.

But, let's say you were exposed by trade w/ 100 computer guys,  and only 12 non-computer guys..


It's difficult to quantify, and while that does not disqualify your personal experience..  I think it may be premature to Hand computer guys "The Worst", label.
Yes, keep telling me how I don't understand sexism in the tech industry.

Hang on, let me get some popcorn, oh wait, maybe it should be ice cream since, you know, I'm all emotional. Nope, popcorn works fine.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 22:08:03 »
The tech community is very large,  when you make a blanket statement about any large group of people..

That statement is probably just as true in any OTHER large group of people..


So, the underpinning to discrimination one may have encountered IN TECH, is not due TO TECH,

As for how many people being abused at school, holding onto emotional distress, later manifesting into discrimination.. It's a misnomer that everyone on the outgroup of the playground ends up in tech..  it wouldn't even be the majority..

Because relative to ALL other jobs,  Tech is way smaller.. 

I guess you missed the part where I said "they can be some of the worst", that does not imply all.
You know well that implies a blanket statement. I'm with tp on this one. All communities have their share of "radical outliers". You can't just say geeks can be like this taking the moral high ground completely ignoring other situations (BOTH GENDERS) that demonstrate the opposite

Oh and gg with the Anita gif, one of the most sexist and racist people in the industry.

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 22:12:31 »
You know well that implies a blanket statement. I'm with tp on this one. All communities have their share of "radical outliers". You can't just say geeks can be like this taking the moral high ground completely ignoring other situations (BOTH GENDERS) that demonstrate the opposite

Oh and gg with the Anita gif, one of the most sexist and racist people in the industry.

Guys, Let's keep anger at bay..

Community first..

We're all on the gekhak, because real life is less gud' .. 


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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 22:31:04 »
You know well that implies a blanket statement. I'm with tp on this one. All communities have their share of "radical outliers". You can't just say geeks can be like this taking the moral high ground completely ignoring other situations (BOTH GENDERS) that demonstrate the opposite

Oh and gg with the Anita gif, one of the most sexist and racist people in the industry.

Guys, Let's keep anger at bay..

Community first..

We're all on the gekhak, because real life is less gud' .. 


I gotta agree with you man
I almost responded to that with more inflammatory stuff and had to stop myself... geekhack is the least toxic communities I've been to in a while, and I hope it stays that way.
+1 to catpiss tho

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 22:41:08 »
You know well that implies a blanket statement. I'm with tp on this one. All communities have their share of "radical outliers". You can't just say geeks can be like this taking the moral high ground completely ignoring other situations (BOTH GENDERS) that demonstrate the opposite

Oh and gg with the Anita gif, one of the most sexist and racist people in the industry.

Guys, Let's keep anger at bay..

Community first..

We're all on the gekhak, because real life is less gud' .. 


I gotta agree with you man
I almost responded to that with more inflammatory stuff and had to stop myself... geekhack is the least toxic communities I've been to in a while, and I hope it stays that way.
+1 to catpiss tho
Dang I guess cat piss really stuck huh?

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 22:59:08 »
The tech community is very large,  when you make a blanket statement about any large group of people..

That statement is probably just as true in any OTHER large group of people..


So, the underpinning to discrimination one may have encountered IN TECH, is not due TO TECH,

As for how many people being abused at school, holding onto emotional distress, later manifesting into discrimination.. It's a misnomer that everyone on the outgroup of the playground ends up in tech..  it wouldn't even be the majority..

Because relative to ALL other jobs,  Tech is way smaller.. 

I guess you missed the part where I said "they can be some of the worst", that does not imply all.
You know well that implies a blanket statement. I'm with tp on this one. All communities have their share of "radical outliers". You can't just say geeks can be like this taking the moral high ground completely ignoring other situations (BOTH GENDERS) that demonstrate the opposite

Oh and gg with the Anita gif, one of the most sexist and racist people in the industry.

I have no idea who she is, I googled "woman popcorn gif" and thought it looked funny.


And guys, this is exactly why I said you don't want to go down this path, instead of dealing with the actual issue, you guys want to argue how you think I was purposely trying to make a blanket statement (which I was not and I apologize if you think that was my intent), and we get nowhere, so good job for once again doing exactly as expected and derailing the discussion because it's all about you.  :thumb:
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Offline p_blaze

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #69 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 23:00:34 »
You know well that implies a blanket statement. I'm with tp on this one. All communities have their share of "radical outliers". You can't just say geeks can be like this taking the moral high ground completely ignoring other situations (BOTH GENDERS) that demonstrate the opposite

Oh and gg with the Anita gif, one of the most sexist and racist people in the industry.

Guys, Let's keep anger at bay..

Community first..

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I gotta agree with you man
I almost responded to that with more inflammatory stuff and had to stop myself... geekhack is the least toxic communities I've been to in a while, and I hope it stays that way.
+1 to catpiss tho
Dang I guess cat piss really stuck huh?

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Offline tp4tissue

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #70 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 23:11:31 »


I have no idea who she is, I googled "woman popcorn gif" and thought it looked funny.


And guys, this is exactly why I said you don't want to go down this path, instead of dealing with the actual issue, you guys want to argue how you think I was purposely trying to make a blanket statement (which I was not and I apologize if you think that was my intent), and we get nowhere, so good job for once again doing exactly as expected and derailing the discussion because it's all about you.  :thumb:

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Offline captsis

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #71 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 23:14:02 »
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« Last Edit: Fri, 02 March 2018, 01:13:32 by captsis »

Offline Leslieann

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 01 March 2018, 00:45:12 »
Sorry guys, I can't continue this conversation.

Like I said, I'm sorry if you were offended and I have removed the picture, it was unintentional.
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Offline iri

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #73 on: Sun, 04 March 2018, 03:33:13 »
****, I missed all the drama. What picture was here?
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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Offline romevi

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 04 May 2018, 00:43:29 »

Offline tp4tissue

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 04 May 2018, 08:15:06 »
I'm super female

lol
Yeah, okay.  ;)

//Recalls beehatch = verified Female

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Offline JP

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #76 on: Sun, 06 May 2018, 20:05:23 »
From my anecdotal experience it's a guys hobby but it doesn't have to be. Perhaps it is a social construct but who knows. Just like boys who play with trucks and girls play with dolls. Give boys dolls and they use them as swords. I went to a couple keyboard meetups this year. Girls were the minority by far. At both meetups some girls were there because their boyfriend / husband was in the hobby. Some of the girls at these meetups basically sat alone looking bored while playing on a cell phone. Other though were more engaged. I spoke with one gal who typed for a living so the faster she could type the more money she would make.
« Last Edit: Sun, 06 May 2018, 20:22:39 by JP »
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Offline tp4tissue

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #77 on: Sun, 06 May 2018, 20:32:21 »
From my anecdotal experience it's a guys hobby but it doesn't have to be. Perhaps it is a social construct but who knows. Just like boys who play with trucks and girls play with dolls. Give boys dolls and they use them as swords. I went to a couple keyboard meetups this year. Girls were the minority by far. At both meetups some girls were there because their boyfriend / husband was in the hobby. Some of the girls at these meetups basically sat alone looking bored while playing on a cell phone. Other though were more engaged. I spoke with one gal who typed for a living so the faster she could type the more money she would make.

Lies, 

m0ar keebs = m0ar Females

It's the law.. !!




Offline JP

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Re: Keebs: A guys-only thing?
« Reply #78 on: Sun, 06 May 2018, 22:02:22 »

Lies, 

m0ar keebs = m0ar Females

It's the law.. !!



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Ha! By that logic I would have a line of them at my door. It's called the law of diminishing returns. At a certain point having more keyboards won't improve your prospects and more than likely will hurt your chances. Besides it would be a lot of work and energy drain having a lot of keebs AND a lot of / any females for that matter. On the other hand, having a few endgame keebs will do wonders. With the Excalibur of keebs you can become more efficient and happy at home and the workplace. With this boost of confidence and efficiency you can just about take over the world. With this confidence you become well liked and receive a promotion at work. Your status improves and you become more outgoing and attractive to women. Eventually you find the one and you become whole. Together each of you wield your keebs of choice and focus your lives to curing cancer, gardening, vegan cooking, traveling, and talking about deep stuff. Just think of the possibilities!
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