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[Blaise170]

I don't eat low carb TP4

Your low carb is XXXXX..

Tp4 defines low carb as (Any %) < 80%

80, 10, 10.. That is the ideal macro-ratio. !

What should you reduce your total daily carbohydrate intake to?  The average American diet now consists of 50-60% of calories from carbohydrates.   Scientific studies suggest that you can greatly improve health if you reduce your carbohydrate intake to approximately 20-25% of your total daily caloric intake.  This is equal to about 100-125 grams of carbohydrates per day for women and 125-150 grams per day for men.

First start by reducing the larger amounts of carbohydrates from your diet; start with the frequent servings of potatoes, rice and pasta and the sugar containing drinks.  Replace these with more protein and low carbohydrate vegetables.

After a week or 2, count the grams of the remaining carbohydrates in your daily diets for a few days.  You will quickly realize the high amount of carbohydrates you had been consuming on a regular basis.

Reducing your carbohydrate intake to 20-25% of your total caloric intake has a dramatic improvement in the diseases arising from insulin resistance as well as improving your neurological functioning.  Your triglyceride and HDL cholesterol levels improve, your blood pressure will be greatly reduced and your blood sugar levels will normalize as your body’s response to insulin to improves.

Carbohydrate reduction has been calculated to have 6-8 times greater power of reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease (strokes and heart attacks) than do the statin medications that are commonly prescribed to lower LDL cholesterol levels.  Why treat these conditions with potentially toxic medications when you can prevent and even reverse these conditions by simply reducing your carbohydrate intake.

[tp4tissue]

What should you reduce your total daily carbohydrate intake to?  The average American diet now consists of 50-60% of calories from carbohydrates.   Scientific studies suggest that you can greatly improve health if you reduce your carbohydrate intake to approximately 20-25% of your total daily caloric intake.  This is equal to about 100-125 grams of carbohydrates per day for women and 125-150 grams per day for men.

First start by reducing the larger amounts of carbohydrates from your diet; start with the frequent servings of potatoes, rice and pasta and the sugar containing drinks.  Replace these with more protein and low carbohydrate vegetables.

After a week or 2, count the grams of the remaining carbohydrates in your daily diets for a few days.  You will quickly realize the high amount of carbohydrates you had been consuming on a regular basis.

Reducing your carbohydrate intake to 20-25% of your total caloric intake has a dramatic improvement in the diseases arising from insulin resistance as well as improving your neurological functioning.  Your triglyceride and HDL cholesterol levels improve, your blood pressure will be greatly reduced and your blood sugar levels will normalize as your body’s response to insulin to improves.

Carbohydrate reduction has been calculated to have 6-8 times greater power of reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease (strokes and heart attacks) than do the statin medications that are commonly prescribed to lower LDL cholesterol levels.  Why treat these conditions with potentially toxic medications when you can prevent and even reverse these conditions by simply reducing your carbohydrate intake.

That above there  is the PRIMARY set of mis-information generated by Big-Pharma to Continue Insulin disorder (Diabetes).

Remember diabetes is big business.

What they've done is bent the truth to sell more drugs.


Diabetes is caused by high consumption of fats.

When the fats get into your cells, the insulin does not work.


The more fats you eat, (animal fat or vegetable fat),  the more insulin resistant you become.


Eventually it gets to a point where there's so much fat in your cells, your body does not produce enough insulin to get sugar into the cell.




Let's say you do follow a low carb plan..

Your insulin sensitivity will increase (at least initially, if you are diabetic/pre-diabetic) because you're eating less calories overall, and your pancreas function will improve somewhat as prior it was overworked.


However, you are still in the same insulin resisting state DUE to the Intramyocellular lipids. Fats in muscle cells.



The reason why this is terribly dangerous, is because we KNOW for certain that fat intake above the 15-20% threshold leads to Vascular damage.

So even if you follow a low carb diet, you are doing significant damage to your blood vessels and that endothelial damage directly thickens arterial plaque. Finally culminating in heart disease ontop of continued diabetes.

[Waateva]

What should you reduce your total daily carbohydrate intake to?  The average American diet now consists of 50-60% of calories from carbohydrates.   Scientific studies suggest that you can greatly improve health if you reduce your carbohydrate intake to approximately 20-25% of your total daily caloric intake.  This is equal to about 100-125 grams of carbohydrates per day for women and 125-150 grams per day for men.

First start by reducing the larger amounts of carbohydrates from your diet; start with the frequent servings of potatoes, rice and pasta and the sugar containing drinks.  Replace these with more protein and low carbohydrate vegetables.

After a week or 2, count the grams of the remaining carbohydrates in your daily diets for a few days.  You will quickly realize the high amount of carbohydrates you had been consuming on a regular basis.

Reducing your carbohydrate intake to 20-25% of your total caloric intake has a dramatic improvement in the diseases arising from insulin resistance as well as improving your neurological functioning.  Your triglyceride and HDL cholesterol levels improve, your blood pressure will be greatly reduced and your blood sugar levels will normalize as your body’s response to insulin to improves.

Carbohydrate reduction has been calculated to have 6-8 times greater power of reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease (strokes and heart attacks) than do the statin medications that are commonly prescribed to lower LDL cholesterol levels.  Why treat these conditions with potentially toxic medications when you can prevent and even reverse these conditions by simply reducing your carbohydrate intake.

That above there  is the PRIMARY set of mis-information generated by Big-Pharma to Continue Insulin disorder (Diabetes).

Remember diabetes is big business.

What they've done is bent the truth to sell more drugs.


Diabetes is caused by high consumption of fats.

When the fats get into your cells, the insulin does not work.


The more fats you eat, (animal fat or vegetable fat),  the more insulin resistant you become.


Eventually it gets to a point where there's so much fat in your cells, your body does not produce enough insulin to get sugar into the cell.




Let's say you do follow a low carb plan..

Your insulin sensitivity will increase (at least initially, if you are diabetic/pre-diabetic) because you're eating less calories overall, and your pancreas function will improve somewhat as prior it was overworked.


However, you are still in the same insulin resisting state DUE to the Intramyocellular lipids. Fats in muscle cells.



The reason why this is terribly dangerous, is because we KNOW for certain that fat intake above the 15-20% threshold leads to Vascular damage.

So even if you follow a low carb diet, you are doing significant damage to your blood vessels and that endothelial damage directly thickens arterial plaque. Finally culminating in heart disease ontop of continued diabetes.

You're steering pretty close to anti-vaxx logic there tp4.  And if you try to talk me into anti-vaxx, I'm just gonna block your ass because I deal with that **** enough IRL.

[Blaise170]

What I posted is from a doctor who doesn't prescribe drugs. He prefers natural/alternative remedies (like lowering your intake of carbohydrates).

[tp4tissue]

What I posted is from a doctor who doesn't prescribe drugs. He prefers natural/alternative remedies (like lowering your intake of carbohydrates).

And that doctor is wrong.

Just as all doctors who recommended cigarettes..


There is a place for natural-foods,  remedy through nutrition.

But the shift to All Plant Based is the latest and thoroughly proven ideal diet for human beings.

[tp4tissue]

You're steering pretty close to anti-vaxx logic there tp4.  And if you try to talk me into anti-vaxx, I'm just gonna block your ass because I deal with that **** enough IRL.

The rise in autism is quoted by Anti-Vaxx to be around 2200%,   They've adjusted for detection rate due to new technology, that increase has been deemed to be around 800%

So there is an 800% rise in autism in the period parallel to the boom in vaccination.


However, as we now know, the bulk of toxic materials exposure is through consuming of animal products

The 4 major dangerous groups are.

Dioxins
Mercury
Pesticides
Antibiotics
Hormones

These are omnipresent in all animal products natural and farmed..

The rise of autism is most likely due to high consumption of animal products in wealthier nations.

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[Waateva]

You're steering pretty close to anti-vaxx logic there tp4.  And if you try to talk me into anti-vaxx, I'm just gonna block your ass because I deal with that **** enough IRL.

The rise in autism is quoted by Anti-Vaxx to be around 2200%,   They've adjusted for detection rate due to new technology, that increase has been deemed to be around 800%

So there is an 800% rise in autism in the period parallel to the boom in vaccination.


However, as we now know, the bulk of toxic materials exposure is through consuming of animal products

The 4 major dangerous groups are.

Dioxins
Mercury
Pesticides
Antibiotics
Hormones

These are omnipresent in all animal products natural and farmed..

The rise of autism is most likely due to high consumption of animal products in wealthier nations.

Hmmm, this graph seems to instead pin that on organic food sales 



In all seriousness, you can draw all kinds of correlation but until I see hard data showing it, it's all speculation and worth jack **** to me.

[tp4tissue]

Hmmm, this graph seems to instead pin that on organic food sales 

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In all seriousness, you can draw all kinds of correlation but until I see hard data showing it, it's all speculation and worth jack **** to me.

Irrelevant..

Organic food is just food with less chemicals.

We KNOW that industrial and waste chemicals which concentrates in Meats definitively cause cancer and neurological damage.



For example, Meat is class 1 and class 2.  But why do we still sell this stuff to people..   Because Ethics demand that we are not allowed to experiment in such a way that Directly Cause cancer to Humans.


So it's really the Politics of science holding back the statement: Meat Consumption = Cancer.



In the end,  that's not critical,  if in face of the information that's already available, someone still chooses to eat meat.  Let Darwinism take care of it..

hahahahahahaha

This is not to say these are bad people, or who's more evil, the seller, or the demand of the buyer.


There is a natural divide where the person who's merely-Alive at the end is Correct.


The end-game in terms of maximizing personal life-span given available documentation and technology has been reached.


Everyone today, should they chose 100% Veggie, can live to 85/90 +..

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[tp4tissue]

if early hoomans did not eat meat we would not exist

Unlikely..

Early humans were incapable of acquiring a quantity greater than <1% of their diet.


With even very late stone age tools, hunting had low success rate.



Scavenging was never really possible either, because if you look at behavior of wild carnivores, they jealously guard their prey, even the left overs..


Finally, humans Today easily get sick from eating meat less than ideally cooked.. Now go back thousands of years, wild, with low hygiene, no clean water, no clean utensils, no refrigeration.. 

Fogettaboutit.

[clasicks]

if early hoomans did not eat meat we would not exist

Unlikely..

Early humans were incapable of acquiring a quantity greater than <1% of their diet.


With even very late stone age tools, hunting had low success rate.



Scavenging was never really possible either, because if you look at behavior of wild carnivores, they jealously guard their prey, even the left overs..


Finally, humans Today easily get sick from eating meat less than ideally cooked.. Now go back thousands of years, wild, with low hygiene, no clean water, no clean utensils, no refrigeration.. 

Fogettaboutit.

http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/

"Science doesn’t give a hoot about your politics. Think global warming is a hoax or that vaccines are dangerous? Doesn’t matter, you’re wrong."

this was interesting at a glance.

[Waateva]

if early hoomans did not eat meat we would not exist

Unlikely..

Early humans were incapable of acquiring a quantity greater than <1% of their diet.


With even very late stone age tools, hunting had low success rate.



Scavenging was never really possible either, because if you look at behavior of wild carnivores, they jealously guard their prey, even the left overs..


Finally, humans Today easily get sick from eating meat less than ideally cooked.. Now go back thousands of years, wild, with low hygiene, no clean water, no clean utensils, no refrigeration.. 

Fogettaboutit.

http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/

"Science doesn’t give a hoot about your politics. Think global warming is a hoax or that vaccines are dangerous? Doesn’t matter, you’re wrong."

this was interesting at a glance.

Obviously it's Big Meat funding the articles.

[tp4tissue]

http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/

"Science doesn’t give a hoot about your politics. Think global warming is a hoax or that vaccines are dangerous? Doesn’t matter, you’re wrong."

this was interesting at a glance.

Obviously it's Big Meat funding the articles.

Correct,  remember , Times also published that issue which read butter doesn't cause heart disease..

Guys,  We live in a confusing era where the major corporations throughly own all major information outlets.


The danger is if you're careless enough to not analyze the sources a little further.


The wealthy are in it together,  It's not to say they necessarily want people to die,  but a corporation must make money or perish..


So that lends itself to ambiguous evil..   Evil not in intent, but devastating in practice.

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[Blaise170]

Finally, humans Today easily get sick from eating meat less than ideally cooked.. Now go back thousands of years, wild, with low hygiene, no clean water, no clean utensils, no refrigeration..

You do realize that evolution plays a large part in the diet of our species... Correct? We aren't the only species of humans to have ever roamed the earth, we just happen to be the only species from our clade that didn't go extinct. Thousands of years is plenty of time for the diet of a particular animal to change significantly. There are at least four distinct species of Homo and to say that we were all opportunistic herbivores is just ignorance at best. The current list of known species and subspecies of humans include:

H. habilis, H. rudolfensis, H. gautengensis, H. erectus, H. ergaster, H. antecessor, H. heidelbergensis, H. cepranensis, H. rhodesiensis, H. naledi, H. sapiens (us), H. neanderthalensis, H. floresiensis, H. tsaichangensis

And to your "not properly cooked" thing that you always mention, humans are perfectly capable of eating raw meat. The only reason we cook our food is because of the transportation requirements. Fresh meat is far less likely to contain anything that would make us sick, but when you must transport it for hundreds of miles, it naturally picks up bacteria along the way. I eat rare steaks, because I like it that way. Humans also eat raw insects, raw eggs, etc. with little to no issues. Farmers drink fresh cows' milk that has not been pasteurized and they aren't dying. Humans have been eating raw and poorly processed animal products for millennia and will continue to do so for at least as long as we are alive.

[Waateva]

http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/

"Science doesn’t give a hoot about your politics. Think global warming is a hoax or that vaccines are dangerous? Doesn’t matter, you’re wrong."

this was interesting at a glance.

Obviously it's Big Meat funding the articles.

Correct,  remember , Times also published that issue which read butter doesn't cause heart disease..

Guys,  We live in a confusing era where the major corporations throughly own all major information outlets.


The danger is if you're careless enough to not analyze the sources a little further.


The wealthy are in it together,  It's not to say they necessarily want people to die,  but a corporation must make money or perish..


So that lends itself to ambiguous evil..   Evil not in intent, but devastating in practice.

While I agree that a lot of studies are funded by organizations with ulterior motives, I really want to know what makes the studies that you are referencing any better?  Well actually, I don't think I've seen you link any studies at all to back up your statements, but why is your data immune from corruption? 

To be short, it's not, and as this is an increasing problem in the scientific community, I'm just gonna ignore science and hop on the what-feels-right-is-right-for-me train.  I'll just join clasicks for a burger then head out to the barn for a toke as well, since it sounds like pretty much everything is bad for me, so might as well enjoy what we've got!

[tp4tissue]

Finally, humans Today easily get sick from eating meat less than ideally cooked.. Now go back thousands of years, wild, with low hygiene, no clean water, no clean utensils, no refrigeration..

Fresh meat is far less likely to contain anything that would make us sick, but when you must transport it for hundreds of miles, it naturally picks up bacteria along the way. I eat rare steaks, because I like it that way. Humans also eat raw insects, raw eggs, etc. with little to no issues. Farmers drink fresh cows' milk that has not been pasteurized and they aren't dying. Humans have been eating raw and poorly processed animal products for millennia and will continue to do so for at least as long as we are alive.

This is not true, Fresh meat sold in markets today are more dangerous than wild game.

They are heavily contaminated with fecal matter and the animal themselves are VERY VERY sick even before the slaughter process.



The reason why you yourself are at the moment oblivious to the danger is because in general, the damage is not visibly apparent until one enters early 50s.



Humans are capable of eating raw meat only because we have antibiotics, and when things do go wrong, we have the hospital.

You're terribly ignorant of the fact that diarrhea even 150 yrs ago was sometimes a death sentence.

Even in developing nations today, if poor children get it, they DIE..

[Blaise170]

Reread what I wrote. I literally said exactly what your first sentence says.

[tp4tissue]

Reread what I wrote. I literally said exactly what your first sentence says.

But you implied that Wild meat is Safe..

It may not be as dangerous as Farmed Meats today, but it is FAR from safe.

[xtrafrood]

Reread what I wrote. I literally said exactly what your first sentence says.

But you implied that Wild meat is Safe..

It may not be as dangerous as Farmed Meats today, but it is FAR from safe.

Says the guy that claims he needs a flashlight to go night fishing..

[tp4tissue]

Reread what I wrote. I literally said exactly what your first sentence says.

But you implied that Wild meat is Safe..

It may not be as dangerous as Farmed Meats today, but it is FAR from safe.

Says the guy that claims he needs a flashlight to go night fishing..

//Cough,   I'm actually just going for the boaty-water part..

No intention to eat mercury infused fish

[fanpeople]

Reread what I wrote. I literally said exactly what your first sentence says.

But you implied that Wild meat is Safe..

It may not be as dangerous as Farmed Meats today, but it is FAR from safe.

Says the guy that claims he needs a flashlight to go night fishing..

//Cough,   I'm actually just going for the boaty-water part..

No intention to eat mercury infused fish

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Mercury is a natural cure for hysteria and is a good source of vitamin B1, B2, C1, C2, C3PO and D. Just ask Karen Wetterhahn

[tp4tissue]

Mercury is a natural cure for hysteria and is a good source of vitamin B1, B2, C1, C2, C3PO and D. Just ask Karen Wetterhahn

But eating fish causes nervous system damage.. How will you play the starcraft after fish ?

[fanpeople]

Mercury is a natural cure for hysteria and is a good source of vitamin B1, B2, C1, C2, C3PO and D. Just ask Karen Wetterhahn

But eating fish causes nervous system damage.. How will you play the starcraft after fish ?

Use one of those mouth blow tube buttons.

side note, chronic masturbation causes blindness. Trust me, i cannot see.

[xtrafrood]

Mercury is a natural cure for hysteria and is a good source of vitamin B1, B2, C1, C2, C3PO and D. Just ask Karen Wetterhahn

But eating fish causes nervous system damage.. How will you play the starcraft after fish ?

Use one of those mouth blow tube buttons.

side note, chronic masturbation causes blindness. Trust me, i cannot see.

Can confirm; I can't see past my nose for some reason.

[tp4tissue]

Use one of those mouth blow tube buttons.

side note, chronic masturbation causes blindness. Trust me, i cannot see.

Can confirm; I can't see past my nose for some reason.

According to ancient txts, self-harm diminishes Spirit !