Irrational Fear of Wifi

[tp4tissue]

Anyone else haz this ?

Tp4 always leaves phone on the opposite side of the room..

And if Tp4 sees a router/ frontend somewhere..  Always shuffles casually away from that position..



--- And yet Tp4 did buy an n66u way back when and put it on max transmission to get good connection. .hahahahhahaha

[Sneaky Potato]

Read this as "irrational fear of wife", and I was going to add something to the conversation

[Sterenke]

I have an irrational fear of irrationality..

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[Findecanor]

When my sister lived with me we had the router configured to enable WiFi on a schedule: usually between 7 and midnight.
She was wary of being exposed to too much radio waves, and I do not find that to be irrational.
I know enough about the current state of research that there have been indications that there could be some risk but that how and how much still is largely unknown.

... But living in the direct path of a cell-phone tower's antenna is much worse.

[MaNiFeX]

To add to everyone's fear, we are also exposed to radio and television transmissions in the MHz range.  We are exposed to all the GPS transmissions, cell phone transmissions, magnetic fields of electrical currents, and microwave transmissions as well.  There's nothing we can do about that though.   

Just don't sleep with a WiFi router under your head or on your nuts and you'll probably be OK.* 

* MaNiFeX is not liable for any decisions made based on the above statements.

[noisyturtle]

WiFi causes tumors and cancer from prolonged close-proximity use. That's why I don't keep my phone in my pant pocket, cause that **** is right next to my balls.

**** makes bees autistic, so it can't be completely healthy to humans.

[ygor]

What noise does an autistic bee make?

[tp4tissue]

What noise does an autistic bee make?

We are the bees who say  Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptang Zoo Boing...

[C5Allroad]

To add to everyone's fear, we are also exposed to radio and television transmissions in the MHz range.  We are exposed to all the GPS transmissions, cell phone transmissions, magnetic fields of electrical currents, and microwave transmissions as well.  There's nothing we can do about that though.   

Just don't sleep with a WiFi router under your head or on your nuts and you'll probably be OK.* 

* MaNiFeX is not liable for any decisions made based on the above statements.

That's what I told my ex. She never let me microwave her food because radiation.

[tp4tissue]

Read this as "irrational fear of wife", and I was going to add something to the conversation

Does Mrs. sneaky potato know that you were about to speak ill of her? hahahahahaha


/leverage.

[tp4tissue]

To add to everyone's fear, we are also exposed to radio and television transmissions in the MHz range.  We are exposed to all the GPS transmissions, cell phone transmissions, magnetic fields of electrical currents, and microwave transmissions as well.  There's nothing we can do about that though.   

Just don't sleep with a WiFi router under your head or on your nuts and you'll probably be OK.* 

* MaNiFeX is not liable for any decisions made based on the above statements.

That's what I told my ex. She never let me microwave her food because radiation.

Tp4 try not to stand in front of the microwave as it's doin' its thing..

[Air tree]

I have a router sitting above my bed...Maybe I should move that.

[fanpeople]

I have a router sitting above my bed...Maybe I should move that.

Nah, just put it under your pillow. That way you don't have to share the radiations with the rest of your family and you can keep them all.

[Coreda]

I'd be more concerned sticking Bluetooth devices into one's ears.

[xtrafrood]

If I have too much sodium over an extended period of time I become pretty sensitive to unshielded high voltage, but never a wifi fears. However, 2.4GHz makes me want to break things.

[Eszett]

We are like animals participating in our own experiment which is called "let's see what happens!". As long as no one drops dead, we continue the experiment. Solid knowledge about the long term side effects comes by hindsight. In 20 years from now we might know more, which is pretty useless for us now 

[tp4tissue]

We are like animals participating in our own experiment which is called "let's see what happens!". As long as no one drops dead, we continue the experiment. Solid knowledge about the long term side effects comes by hindsight. In 20 years from now we might know more, which is pretty useless for us now 

There was a movie, with keanu...

Johnny Mnemonic..   


Where in the future,  people develop a brain degenerative disease caused by electronics overloading the airwaves...

[gallowgeek]

It seems that your fear IS irrational, although fears are irrational as they are. WiFi signals are just that, signals. They shouldn't cause any harm.

[Findecanor]

It seems that your fear IS irrational, although fears are irrational as they are. WiFi signals are just that, signals. They shouldn't cause any harm.

Yeah, the signals are completely harmless. The carrier waves for those signals on the other hand ... :-þ

WiFi causes tumors and cancer from prolonged close-proximity use. That's why I don't keep my phone in my pant pocket, cause that **** is right next to my balls.

Radio waves, such as those used for Wifi and cell phones (often spoken of together because they are close in the radio spectrum) is not ionizing radiation - they don't mutate cells into becoming cancer cells.
But .. I have seen a study that have shown that they could promote growth of existing tumors. This means that if you have microtumors of cancer cells that would otherwise be killed off by your immune system before they would cause any harm, exposing yourself to wifi/cell phone - spectrum radio waves increases the risk of those cancer cells turning into a dangerous tumour.

There are also a few studies that say that they the cells could kill brain cells .. which if you look at how many iZombies there are everywhere who never waver their eyes off their phones,  does not look entirely implausible, does it?

[digi]

Wait until they release wireless power, they're really going to nuke your brain....

[Slash Emperor]

Do you have EHS?

[MaNiFeX]

We are like animals participating in our own experiment which is called "let's see what happens!". As long as no one drops dead, we continue the experiment. Solid knowledge about the long term side effects comes by hindsight. In 20 years from now we might know more, which is pretty useless for us now 

True story.  Both of my grandparents died of brain tumors.  Live under high voltage power lines.  Cancer cluster in the hood.  As well, my best friend's brother and mother died of brain tumors having lived in London near power lines...  I mean, this is just anecdotal, but I'm not buying a house anywhere near big lines. 

Irrational fear of WiFi?  We don't know.  Back to using WiFi and WaiFu.  Stay safe!

[Zanduby]

I'll have to dig up the data when i get home, i think i still have it somewhere.

When i used to do phone testing we brought over a testing firm from Germany that testing the radioactivity of cell phones and how that would effect a human. After a few days of testing on 32 phones all running at the same time, the results showed that you would have to sit in that environment (phone call, data and text all at the same time) constantly for 8-10 hours before you body would even start to be effected by the radioactivity. Your AC power plug puts off more radiation than most phones do these days. I know this isn't wifi, but rest assured you will be fine.

[tp4tissue]

We are like animals participating in our own experiment which is called "let's see what happens!". As long as no one drops dead, we continue the experiment. Solid knowledge about the long term side effects comes by hindsight. In 20 years from now we might know more, which is pretty useless for us now 

True story.  Both of my grandparents died of brain tumors.  Live under high voltage power lines.  Cancer cluster in the hood.  As well, my best friend's brother and mother died of brain tumors having lived in London near power lines...  I mean, this is just anecdotal, but I'm not buying a house anywhere near big lines. 

Irrational fear of WiFi?  We don't know.  Back to using WiFi and WaiFu.  Stay safe!

Welll..... There are lots of people living near power lines,  and there are LOTS of power lines..

Given your description,

It's more likely that your genetics possess a hereditary inclination towards cancers..



But, all the same, do look into similar life habits that may have been passed down which may be -carcinogenic- hahahaha..

[tp4tissue]

Wait until they release wireless power, they're really going to nuke your brain....

Tp4 already haz 3x wireless qi cellfone chargers in the house

[digi]

Tp4 already haz 3x wireless qi cellfone chargers in the house

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GQ-GMC-300E-Plus-Digital-Geiger-Counter-Nuclear-Radiation-Detector-Monitor-Meter-/162346439118?hash=item25cc9a11ce:g:8gYAAOSw5cNYbZlt

[Findecanor]

Don't be silly. Radio waves in the microwave spectrum used by cell phones and Wifi (800MHz to 5GHz) are very far from X-rays (30 petahertz and up) and Gamma rays (10 exahertz and up).

In-between those rays in the spectrum is visible light.

[xtrafrood]

Where the LiFi at?

[tp4tissue]

Where the LiFi at?

nothing outside of tradeshows.

[xtrafrood]

Where the LiFi at?

nothing outside of tradeshows.

 

[Eszett]

With a smartphone you prolly can't avoid Wifi. But with a desktop pc, ethernet is basically better in almost every aspect:

• ethernet having the faster connection speed
• ethernet being more relieable, as for there's no fluctuation in connection speed, and no other external impacts. Often people come to me with "there is no inet connection anymore" problems, and while Wifi is dead for some reason, ether still works, and works, and works. Relieable!
• ethernet being more save, as eavesdropping/hacking is far not as easy there
• with ethernet you get a better feeling, if you are abit anxious about health risks. Even if the health risk is non-existant, a better feeling is a better feeling, and therefore there is a positive psychosomatic effect

Privately, I'm using power-LAN, since it's not possible to install an Ethernet cable to my desktop PC. I think that is the second best choice, besides Ethernet.

What people call "rational" is a hindsight logic. If there is no solid proof for a health risk yet, they think there is no risk. But risk doesn't care much about proofs. Sometimes it's smarter to be irrational and avoid certain things, even if there is no solid proof for it (yet)being dangerous.

[Altis]

I'd say the risk from cellular signals is greater than that of wifi due to the signal strength at the emitter source.

More interesting perhaps is the push for wireless charging as the energy levels are quite high -- enough to heat up your body tissue (though cell phones do this as well).

[Findecanor]

I'd say the risk from cellular signals is greater than that of wifi due to the signal strength at the emitter source.

Phones themselves have limits to signal strength, measured in power absorbed / mass of tissue: Specific absorption rate. The EU and US measure SAR slightly differently, but both have set legal SAR limits and most phones emit about half of the legal limit.

Cell phone towers, however...
They do not have limits everywhere. Where I live, there is none but there is practically a lower limit to them as carriers are required to be able to service an area "sufficiently" to be eligible to do it at all.
Unlike phones, each antenna also emits in a single direction.
Then, not every cell tower is backed with a wire to the network but through a directional microwave link.

Where as with cell phones you have a choice if you want to radiate yourself with them or not, with microwave links and cell phone towers, you don't.

[Altis]

I'd say the risk from cellular signals is greater than that of wifi due to the signal strength at the emitter source.

Phones themselves have limits to signal strength, measured in power absorbed / mass of tissue: Specific absorption rate. The EU and US measure SAR slightly differently, but both have set legal SAR limits and most phones emit about half of the legal limit.

Cell phone towers, however...
They do not have limits everywhere. Where I live, there is none but there is practically a lower limit to them as carriers are required to be able to service an area "sufficiently" to be eligible to do it at all.
Unlike phones, each antenna also emits in a single direction.
Then, not every cell tower is backed with a wire to the network but through a directional microwave link.

Where as with cell phones you have a choice if you want to radiate yourself with them or not, with microwave links and cell phone towers, you don't.

Oh I agree that at least the phone itself is optional while the towers are not. These days, everyone's streaming music and video to their phones constantly so just imagine all the signals passing through.

However, the phone emits signal an omni-directional signal, with signal strength needing to be quadrupled for every doubling of distance. If the tower is far/difficult to get to, the phone has to put out a very high-power signal -- right up against your head/body.

Wifi by contrast is all very close-range so the signal strengths are very low, with Bluetooth being even lower (hence crap range).

The towers are directional and by the time they reach the nearest person, the signal strength is lower than what comes off the phone.

It's actually quite amazing just how far and obstructed a cell phone can still work through, especially considering all the other air traffic.

[vonPunki]

It seems that your fear IS irrational, although fears are irrational as they are. WiFi signals are just that, signals. They shouldn't cause any harm.

They're just signals?  What about smoke signals...  too many can cause lung cancer.
This is my first post - please get me up to speed on the meaning of 'GeekHack keyboard enthusiast'. To show my ignorance I tried "S100" as a reply to the Verification "bus" question.

[Sintpinty]

Read this as "irrational fear of wife", and I was going to add something to the conversation

the wife

[fohat.digs]

There is more to fear from the wife than from the wifi.