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Offline Naweo

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High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« on: Tue, 06 December 2022, 04:52:08 »
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I am basically in non-testing mode and with no overclocks, this seems like high temperature for my core, on the package.

I have ASrock Dark pro 4 installed for aircooling by preference but I wanted the max temp to be below 80 during load.

Did I apply cooling wrongly?

https://i.gyazo.com/32b9f6ce4536273484364d09fa88ccff.png

A shop installed the PC, maybe I need to take it back as I have a broken arm.
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Re: High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 06 December 2022, 08:09:38 »
The new AM5 CPU's run hot due to a thick IHS that AMD decided to use to allow support for previous gen mounting hardware.  Don't know if your BeQuiet DRP4 came with an AM5 mounting hardware, which would make a small difference but would allow for proper mounting pressure.  This is a case of can't tell since we're not there to see the hardware and what all was supplied with the cooler.

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Re: High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 06 December 2022, 08:41:06 »
Wait for thermalright  Frost Commander to go on sale for ~$36-45.  It's as good if not better than rock pro4

but tp4 wouldn't worry about temps in general, because benchmarking is the only thing that pushes it over.

for overclock testing, you probably shouldn't use air cooling.

if you're just leaving it stock though, it's fine as hot as it is.

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Re: High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 06 December 2022, 15:58:00 »
Wait for thermalright  Frost Commander to go on sale for ~$36-45.  It's as good if not better than rock pro4

but tp4 wouldn't worry about temps in general, because benchmarking is the only thing that pushes it over.

for overclock testing, you probably shouldn't use air cooling.

if you're just leaving it stock though, it's fine as hot as it is.


Lord TP4Tissue,

I tried to see if RAM was the issue for my PC randomly restarting when in idle. Consistently it seems to be first an error:

https://i.gyazo.com/2f850ac6be82d7ca5e7cdcbba2cd38f4.png

Follow by the crash:

https://i.gyazo.com/2d1dd3ca0d1dfd38e5547e76822a74a5.png

It happens usually if I am outside of an application and not using the PC.

I had suspected my ram to be the root of the issue, but now I am not sure.

Is there a way to solve this kind of crashing?

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Re: High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 06 December 2022, 16:26:00 »
try just 1 stick for a while. look at the timing table and see if the mobo is loading it properly.

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Re: High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 06 December 2022, 16:49:31 »
I tried with 3 sticks, then 2 sticks, and the issue persisted.

I guess I can try with one stick but then my PC is quite unusable. What would I need to check for?

Based on the screenshots, how can I be sure this is a ram issue?

I did the memtest with 4 sticks for a while, probably totaling 16 hours and no errors.

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Re: High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 06 December 2022, 17:45:42 »
try re-seat-ing the cpu, don't overclamp, you don't need max pressure. tight enough is enough.

if the memtest is fine, prolly some other incompatibility, start turning off unused mobo features.

but like i said, check the secondary and tertiary timings just in case.  search if other people have had incompatibilities of those sticks.

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Re: High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 07 December 2022, 02:07:41 »
It almost always happens at 04:20 local time at night, I feel maybe it could be a drive idle / windows update issue?

Your suggestions are fine I can try that.

I mean as long as it only crashes at night, I don't mind it too much, but I feel this is destroying my pc.

As for the TCG command, I was told there is a command to turn off for a drive, do you know if there is a feature related to this I need to turn off?

"A TCG Command has returned an error.
Desc: AuthenticateSession
Param1: 0x1
Param2: 0x60000001C
Param3: 0x900000006
Param4: 0x0
Status: 0x12"

As for other motherboard features, can you come with recommendations?

I mean the PC crashed even with 2 sticks so I suspect it's not a ram issue, but I will try to run more memtest.

As for timings, is it a simple task, is there a guide or something on how I can check that?

My PC just crashed this morning at 9 AM instead, after I plugged in four ram sticks. There is no blue screen. It is as if someone just pressed the physical reboot button on the PC and the reboot sequence is quite fast, not dump or hard drive data saving or something like that. It is really strange.
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Re: High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 07 December 2022, 10:13:25 »
there was a sleep bug in my vm , turn off sleep/hibernate it stopped crashing.


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Re: High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 07 December 2022, 10:18:18 »
That random hard shut-off is a Power supply issue - had that with my rig months ago and swapped out from a Seasonic 760XP2 to a Corsair RM850x, now there is no longer a random shutoff issue.

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Re: High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 07 December 2022, 10:36:47 »
That random hard shut-off is a Power supply issue - had that with my rig months ago and swapped out from a Seasonic 760XP2 to a Corsair RM850x, now there is no longer a random shutoff issue.

it's possssible. but on a platinum rated psu ?

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Re: High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 07 December 2022, 16:17:38 »
The seasonic 1000w I have right now worked fine for months until I upgraded to a Ryzen, so I dont think so.

Can try to disable hibernate and sleep in power options but I already did, its set to never.

I just did another 7 hours of memtest. 8 instances open at 1000, no issues.

I dont see bluescreens when I crash or anything like that it is very strange.

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Re: High temperature for 7900x AMD?
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 07 December 2022, 16:49:06 »
might be a short somewhere, check for metal flakes. protrusion, loose stuff.