Author Topic: Do I have a drinking problem? Do you? (Read 10394 times)

tp4tissue · « **Reply #50 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 22:04:41 »

Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:59:16

Was it WC Fields who said "I have a drinking problem, 2 hands but only one mouth"?

Drinking in moderation has never been proven detrimental, but binging is surely bad for you.

If sleep is the issue, get some melatonin tabs and take one an hour before bedtime, if you anticipate having trouble sleeping.

It is a natural sleep hormone (I am a big guy and still find that the 1 mg tabs are plenty, the 3 mg must be for horses) but don't take one in the middle of the night or you will have trouble waking up the next morning!

Much cheaper than drinking, too. But don't drive on it, really. It hits in about 45 minutes and you are almost sure to drop off.

Alright, I just ordered a bottle on Amazon.com... If this works... I'll probably consider stopping the alcohol.

I've got a question though... Basically anytime you mess with the endocrine system like this, you risk getting tumors... any literature on that?

Grimey · « **Reply #51 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 22:07:44 »

Been sober just shy of 2 years now. I can't partake of alcohol within reason myself so I don't feel qualified to answer something of that nature for someone else. As others have said only you or persons close to you could answer that question.

Lanx · « **Reply #52 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 22:11:24 »

i'm allergic to alcohol so i guess that helps (plus i just don't care for it).
this poised an issue at my bachelor's party, i had one guy giving me drinks and one guy monitoring me.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #53 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 22:15:47 »

Quote from: Grimey on Mon, 19 November 2012, 22:07:44

Been sober just shy of 2 years now. I can't partake of alcohol within reason myself so I don't feel qualified to answer something of that nature for someone else. As others have said only you or persons close to you could answer that question.

I just had my vodka and milk. sleep soon.

fohat.digs · « **Reply #54 on:** Tue, 20 November 2012, 12:25:28 »

@ tp4tissue -

Naturally, hormones are not something to trifle with, since they control and regulate almost everything, but the amounts are small. When I first tried it several years ago, they sold 300 micrograms, 1 milligram, and 3 milligrams.

I have not seen anything smaller than 1 mg in a few years, although I have not searched specialty suppliers. I am sure that there are many options available when you start looking.

At first, when I couldn't get the 300 mikes anymore, I was cutting the 1 mg tabs in half. I stopped doing that, but keep thinking that I should start again. I think that half a milligram is probably enough to do the trick for me. There can be a groggy/hangover effect in the morning, I never take it later than about 10:30 pm.

They also sell mist inhalers which are supposed to be quicker-acting and don't last as long. You might have to look in the children's section for that.

Also, I don't do it every night, only when I feel that I am going to have trouble going to sleep. Sometimes that is a couple of nights a week, sometimes I go a couple of weeks without using it.

rayuki · « **Reply #55 on:** Tue, 20 November 2012, 12:33:47 »

Quote from: JaccoW on Mon, 19 November 2012, 08:28:28

Not funny Rayuki.

sorry but i dont find the OP very funny either, I've grown up with people around me including close family that have a can of beer in there hand from the moment they wake up until the moment they pass out. So i kinda find this whole thread a bit offending and "Not Funny" to be honest.

Binge · « **Reply #56 on:** Tue, 20 November 2012, 12:53:10 »

Quote from: DanGWanG on Sun, 18 November 2012, 23:24:45

I binge every weekend so, probably.

Life can be a series of binges. Some last for years!

xsphat · « **Reply #57 on:** Tue, 20 November 2012, 13:46:47 »

Quote from: rayuki on Tue, 20 November 2012, 12:33:47

Quote from: JaccoW on Mon, 19 November 2012, 08:28:28
Not funny Rayuki.

sorry but i dont find the OP very funny either, I've grown up with people around me including close family that have a can of beer in there hand from the moment they wake up until the moment they pass out. So i kinda find this whole thread a bit offending and "Not Funny" to be honest.

So you're offended by people who don't have a drinking problem? What a life.

tjcaustin · « **Reply #58 on:** Tue, 20 November 2012, 14:32:07 »

Quote from: rayuki on Tue, 20 November 2012, 12:33:47

Quote from: JaccoW on Mon, 19 November 2012, 08:28:28
Not funny Rayuki.

sorry but i dont find the OP very funny either, I've grown up with people around me including close family that have a can of beer in there hand from the moment they wake up until the moment they pass out. So i kinda find this whole thread a bit offending and "Not Funny" to be honest.

I don't have grandparents or most of my mom's extended family because of that, so I don't find it funny either, but I can also take it at face value and not denigrate the dude for trying to solve his problems now instead of when he's in a worse condition.

Way to stay classy, brah.

Malphas · « **Reply #59 on:** Tue, 20 November 2012, 15:44:27 »

Whether your drinking habits are a problem or not aren't defined by the quantity or even the frequency to some extent, it's about the reasons for why you drink and the psychological effect it has on you. Two shots every day as relaxant - as you describe - would qualify as a problem, yes, as it's a moderate dependency and presumably outside a social setting.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #60 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 00:52:40 »

Quote from: Malphas on Tue, 20 November 2012, 15:44:27

Whether your drinking habits are a problem or not aren't defined by the quantity or even the frequency to some extent, it's about the reasons for why you drink and the psychological effect it has on you. Two shots every day as relaxant - as you describe - would qualify as a problem, yes, as it's a moderate dependency and presumably outside a social setting.

Sigh.... Ok, I do have a dependency on it for sleep on most days.. Reason for drinking.. well.. "I like to sleep".. Your question seems to be, "Am I using it as an escape"... this I need to ponder further, as it is moderately true that I dislike reality most of the time.

singaporean123 · « **Reply #61 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 01:17:09 »

never liked drinking.. the first time I tried was some chivas regal which i honestly felt tasted like crap.

friends kept asking me to drink and says it will get better after awhile.

took almost a cup of that sh1t burning down my throat.

couldn't sleep the night, felt like crap the next morning. that entire week everywhere i go I smelt that chivas for some psychological reason.

tl;dr: bad experience with alcohol, think my problem is that i don't drink. i'm 19 and almost all my friends drink for the sake of drinking, and here I am prefering coffee and tea.

YoungMichael88 · « **Reply #62 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 02:40:35 »

It's not for everyone. Drinking alcohol straight is probably not the best method for a first time drinker though. It's true when they say its an acquired taste. I used to drink a lot of whisky in my teen years and began to love it. It was my preferred drink for a while. I had a few unpleasant experiences with drinking too much of it and from that point on I can't drink it or even smell it without having a "flashback" for lack of a better word and feeling nauseous from it. I'm not going to sit here and try to pressure you into drinking, but I think if you wanted to try again then try something a little different next time. Pace yourself and find something that you enjoy. There's no shame in mixed drinks either. Cheers.

rowdy · « **Reply #63 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 03:15:00 »

It might just be like a routine that settles and relaxes you to help you sleep. Without that regular routine, you might be slightly anxious and less relaxed, and hence slightly less able to sleep (which may, in itself, cause more anxiety and more unrest).

xsphat · « **Reply #64 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 05:37:07 »

It is never wrong to not drink, btw.

YoungMichael88 · « **Reply #65 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 05:51:59 »

Quote from: xsphat on Wed, 21 November 2012, 05:37:07

It is never wrong to not drink, btw.

Also a valid point.

rayuki · « **Reply #66 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 06:02:49 »

Quote from: xsphat on Tue, 20 November 2012, 13:46:47

Quote from: rayuki on Tue, 20 November 2012, 12:33:47
Quote from: JaccoW on Mon, 19 November 2012, 08:28:28
Not funny Rayuki.

sorry but i dont find the OP very funny either, I've grown up with people around me including close family that have a can of beer in there hand from the moment they wake up until the moment they pass out. So i kinda find this whole thread a bit offending and "Not Funny" to be honest.

So you're offended by people who don't have a drinking problem? What a life.

err read and comprehend what i wrote, im offended by people that THINK they have a drinking problem when they wouldn't know what one is if it slapped them in the face.

the whole thing is just a troll isn't it? how can ANYONE at all believe this OP actually believes he may have a drinking problem with what he wrote?

go out in the real world and see what REAL drinking problems are and what they do to people/familes and come back and talk ****.

xsphat · « **Reply #67 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 09:02:49 »

People aren't born with a drinking problem. They start with a simple habit like, lets just say, 2 shots a day to help go to sleep, and then it's 3 and 4 and 5. If you are the expert on AODA that you claim to be, you would know that. I know more about addiction than you do because I have studied it, been through rehab and lost everything (literally) twice to substances. Your offense at this topic makes me laugh at you.

And, if you would have researched addiction, you would know that the very first step of a horrid addictive cycle is lying about how much of the substance you do, which the OP may very well have. The second step is you start jokingly asking people whether you have a problem. The OP is reaching out for support out of a valid concern, and you are treating him like a membrane keyboard for looking for help. That sounds like you are being the troll here, so drink up, and let's see where your life is in 5 years. I'll still be clean, lets see how you do.

singaporean123 · « **Reply #68 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 09:16:14 »

Thanks guys for the suggestions. I guess I should try and drink a little more, to see what I like.. though my girlfriend objects to any kind of alcoholism.

I can get why people want to drink. I've got some pals of my own that just love to force themselves to drink, to get drunk, to get away from the world and all the problems for awhile.

Guess I'm a little bit the same, but I play games more often. Immerse myself in games and let the days go by without a care

Malphas · « **Reply #69 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 11:19:43 »

Quote from: YoungMichael88 on Wed, 21 November 2012, 02:40:35

I used to drink a lot of whisky in my teen years and began to love it. It was my preferred drink for a while. I had a few unpleasant experiences with drinking too much of it and from that point on I can't drink it or even smell it without having a "flashback" for lack of a better word and feeling nauseous from it.

Exactly the same situation here. Used to be able to drink whiskey straight like it was water when I was a teenager, but after too many incidents getting wasted on the stuff it now makes me gag just to smell it, although I wouldn't call it a flashback exactly since it doesn't really bring back in memories or anything. I can't really drink anything like how I could when I was a kid, gotten soft in my old age, I guess.

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #70 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 11:22:42 »

Quote from: Malphas on Wed, 21 November 2012, 11:19:43

Quote from: YoungMichael88 on Wed, 21 November 2012, 02:40:35
I used to drink a lot of whisky in my teen years and began to love it. It was my preferred drink for a while. I had a few unpleasant experiences with drinking too much of it and from that point on I can't drink it or even smell it without having a "flashback" for lack of a better word and feeling nauseous from it.
Exactly the same situation here. Used to be able to drink whiskey straight like it was water when I was a teenager, but after too many incidents getting wasted on the stuff it now makes me gag just to smell it, although I wouldn't call it a flashback exactly since it doesn't really bring back in memories or anything. I can't really drink anything like how I could when I was a kid, gotten soft in my old age, I guess.

I get the same way with rum. Had one bad experience with it and now I almost puke just from the smell of it.

Beer is better anyways...

rayuki · « **Reply #71 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 11:25:37 »

Quote from: xsphat on Wed, 21 November 2012, 09:02:49

People aren't born with a drinking problem. They start with a simple habit like, lets just say, 2 shots a day to help go to sleep, and then it's 3 and 4 and 5. If you are the expert on AODA that you claim to be, you would know that. I know more about addiction than you do because I have studied it, been through rehab and lost everything (literally) twice to substances. Your offense at this topic makes me laugh at you.

And, if you would have researched addiction, you would know that the very first step of a horrid addictive cycle is lying about how much of the substance you do, which the OP may very well have. The second step is you start jokingly asking people whether you have a problem. The OP is reaching out for support out of a valid concern, and you are treating him like a membrane keyboard for looking for help. That sounds like you are being the troll here, so drink up, and let's see where your life is in 5 years. I'll still be clean, lets see how you do.

yes, on a forum that supports and enables addiction, righto. also, you dont know **** about me because i dont go on about my personal life to people on Internet forums.

Malphas · « **Reply #72 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 11:33:50 »

Grow up, rayuki. This isn't a pissing contest about "my drinking problem is bigger than your drinking problem" and you're not the arbiter of who is and isn't allowed to be concerned about their drinking habits.

The thread title is "Do I have a drinking problem?", that should be your obvious clue as to what sort of severity of problem we're talking about here - if he had a severe drinking problem (which you mistakenly believe are the only legitimate "real" alcohol problems) then he probably would be past the point where he found it necessary to make a thread asking if he had one. Once you start developing psychological or physiological dependency on a substance (as this guy clearly has) then you have a legitimate problem. The fact it's not as severe as some other people is beside the point.

xsphat · « **Reply #73 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 11:35:08 »

rayuki, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to know a thing about you. Have a nice day.

rayuki · « **Reply #74 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 11:38:01 »

Quote from: Malphas on Wed, 21 November 2012, 11:33:50

Grow up, rayuki. This isn't a pissing contest about "my drinking problem is bigger than your drinking problem" and you're not the arbiter of who is and isn't allowed to be concerned about their drinking habits.

The thread title is "Do I have a drinking problem?", that should be your obvious clue as to what sort of severity of problem we're talking about here - if he had a severe drinking problem (which you mistakenly believe are the only legitimate "real" alcohol problems) then he probably would be past the point where he found it necessary to make a thread asking if he had one. Once you start developing psychological or physiological dependency on a substance (as this guy clearly has) then you have a legitimate problem. The fact it's not as severe as some other people is beside the point.

and im still adamant its just a troll because no one can be serious with what he was saying. i'll just sit back and keep watching in amusment at all you silver spoon born mother****ers talking bull****.

"guys i have a glass of milk with dinner and 1 before i go to bed, i think i have an addiction to milk! please help!"

xsphat · « **Reply #75 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 11:52:42 »

You shouldn't mix milk with booze because it curdles in your stomach. Just saying.

inlikeflynn · « **Reply #76 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 12:21:49 »

I drink 6-8 glasses of water a day. How can I stop this addiction?

rayuki · « **Reply #77 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 12:26:38 »

Quote from: inlikeflynn on Wed, 21 November 2012, 12:21:49

I drink 6-8 glasses of water a day. How can I stop this addiction?

add alcohol to it.

Lorem-Ipsum · « **Reply #78 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 12:31:57 »

I rarely drink and when I do it's generally with a meal. I dislike the feeling of being drunk, or not being able to think clearly for any reason.

BlindRAGE606 · « **Reply #79 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 13:39:48 »

I have an old high school friend that dropped out of college due to a weed addiction -psychological. After two convicted felonies of weed charges/distributions he now lives in his moms garage with a mountain of debt due to failed courses/court cost. He now smokes synthetic marijuana in copious amounts(justifying that it isn't illegal so he can still get his high), he lies about how much he smokes/spends and lives with his mom so he can have less overhead to buy more synthetic marijuana. He smokes after every event he does, i.e. smoke-eat, smoke-drive to store, takes "smoke" breaks ~20min intervals at work but while he hides in his car and tokes it up, etc. etc.

A truly pathetic existence where he gets paid under the table for camera installs, he gets super cranky when he isn't high and has ultimately resulted in losing many friends, including me despite my efforts to tell him that he's addicted to being high and to get a real job so can move out of his moms house.

I was honestly at my wits end and him in complete denial, so I gave up on him. Quite frankly, after some thought, I was more his friend towards the end because of the occasional free weed hits I got than anything else... Drugs had morphed his being and personality that it was hard to relate to him in any convo other than weed/getting high and perhaps I was hopeful in the existence of my old friend.

Another question I ask myself.. Would I have treated him/viewed him the same if he had been successful in terms of holding a steady job/own place at the very least but still had the same habits? Probably not. It was quite unnerving on my end to be seen with him in public towards the end of our friendship because he was such a loser in my eyes, and found at age 24 that I had outgrew his "lets get high 24/7" juvenile mentality. I think this is where much friction/contempt developed as he could not drag me down into his thought patterns and thought me arrogant for not wanting to always indulge in such devices.

Don't get me wrong I love to smoke a joint as much as the next dude (yes, I'm going to law school and so the irony) but its all in moderation. Such is the pattern of addiction and the havoc it wreaks to those not even directly related to the substance.

davkol · « **Reply #80 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 13:58:16 »

Sounds like I should stop drinking about four huge cups of tea a day.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #81 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 19:48:18 »

alright guys, I got my little Nature Made" brand melotonin 3mg pills from amazon today.... Gonna give it a go, and leave the svedka closed tonight..

Instructions say take 30min before sleep attempt.. These pills are freakin completely too small to break evenly, guess i'll just take a whole 3mg.

sth · « **Reply #82 on:** Wed, 21 November 2012, 19:57:48 »

Quote from: BlindRAGE606 on Wed, 21 November 2012, 13:39:48

I have an old high school friend that dropped out of college due to a weed addiction -psychological. After two convicted felonies of weed charges/distributions he now lives in his moms garage with a mountain of debt due to failed courses/court cost. He now smokes synthetic marijuana in copious amounts(justifying that it isn't illegal so he can still get his high), he lies about how much he smokes/spends and lives with his mom so he can have less overhead to buy more synthetic marijuana. He smokes after every event he does, i.e. smoke-eat, smoke-drive to store, takes "smoke" breaks ~20min intervals at work but while he hides in his car and tokes it up, etc. etc.

A truly pathetic existence where he gets paid under the table for camera installs, he gets super cranky when he isn't high and has ultimately resulted in losing many friends, including me despite my efforts to tell him that he's addicted to being high and to get a real job so can move out of his moms house.

I was honestly at my wits end and him in complete denial, so I gave up on him. Quite frankly, after some thought, I was more his friend towards the end because of the occasional free weed hits I got than anything else... Drugs had morphed his being and personality that it was hard to relate to him in any convo other than weed/getting high and perhaps I was hopeful in the existence of my old friend.

Another question I ask myself.. Would I have treated him/viewed him the same if he had been successful in terms of holding a steady job/own place at the very least but still had the same habits? Probably not. It was quite unnerving on my end to be seen with him in public towards the end of our friendship because he was such a loser in my eyes, and found at age 24 that I had outgrew his "lets get high 24/7" juvenile mentality. I think this is where much friction/contempt developed as he could not drag me down into his thought patterns and thought me arrogant for not wanting to always indulge in such devices.

Don't get me wrong I love to smoke a joint as much as the next dude (yes, I'm going to law school and so the irony) but its all in moderation. Such is the pattern of addiction and the havoc it wreaks to those not even directly related to the substance.

that's not a weed addiction that's a full grown adult baby. if it wasn't weed it'd be something else.