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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23750 on: Mon, 27 November 2017, 19:32:57 »
I hurt my stupid back AGAIN today. This time a man said, "Hello" and I turned slightly and said, "Hello" and my ****ing back went out. That's it.  :blank:

I said 'hello' to a man and my back went out. It's like I'm the focus of some sick joke.

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23751 on: Mon, 27 November 2017, 19:56:39 »
I hurt my stupid back AGAIN today. This time a man said, "Hello" and I turned slightly and said, "Hello" and my ****ing back went out. That's it.  :blank:

I said 'hello' to a man and my back went out. It's like I'm the focus of some sick joke.


Hrrrrm...??

Danger 1,  Cholesterol clogging spinal arteries, leading to disk deformity /pathology

Danger 2,  Opiod Medication , casually opening the path to serious addiction.


Soon enuff,  N-Turtle is knocking off scripts for his fix..   Whenever asked, how much pain are you in, it's always a 9..

Then one day, the scripts fail, they put him on THE LIST...

No where to turn, he asks his weed dealer what else does he got..

At first, Turtle stick with the luxury prescription pills, the roxies and percos..


But soon , the tolerance builds, and it isn't enough..


The dealer hands him a little bag of white..  At wits end, it's cheaper, and he says it's more powerful..


Desperate for a fix, he hands Turtle a piece of foil and a lighter... fumes fill his lungs... Love at first sight..


All the hesitations melt away, the mysteries of the universe puzzles turtle no longer, This was the solution..


He goes home with a pocket full..  Ready for a new life.





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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23752 on: Mon, 27 November 2017, 20:12:52 »
Well I don't take any drugs, not even aspirin for personal reasons, and the doc says my choleserol is only slightly above normal.

Given that my rapid succession back issues are something new to the last two years, I'm pretty sure it's the sitting behind a computer all day.

I may need to consider putting in a work order for one of those fancy standing desks :(

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23753 on: Mon, 27 November 2017, 20:18:04 »
Well I don't take any drugs, not even aspirin for personal reasons, and the doc says my choleserol is only slightly above normal.

Given that my rapid succession back issues are something new to the last two years, I'm pretty sure it's the sitting behind a computer all day.

I may need to consider putting in a work order for one of those fancy standing desks :(

Of course,  computer chair + labored tired posture  definitely has an influence.

However, you must keep in mind, that the AVERAGE western cholesterol level is 190- 210+


Arteriosclerosis begins at 145+,  they've autopsied children (who died of various causes) with the 150-200 cholesterol ranges and can already begin to see fatty streaks in their arteries..

This is a disease built from youth


What does this mean,   it means that the ENTIRETY of what we consider Average is Above the threshold for pathology.


That is to say, it may be NORMAL to be AVERAGE,   but that doesn't mean you are free from its harms.



In fact most people who have heart attacks like yourself, have average or near average cholesterol..


It is the case that the AVERAGE is abnormal..   and you are indeed WAY TOO HIGH..



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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23754 on: Mon, 27 November 2017, 22:19:20 »
Been wanting to get back into the keyboard hobby but can't seem to find that passion that I once had. Bothered that I burnt myself out in the first place.
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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23755 on: Mon, 27 November 2017, 22:22:50 »
Been wanting to get back into the keyboard hobby but can't seem to find that passion that I once had. Bothered that I burnt myself out in the first place.

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23756 on: Mon, 27 November 2017, 22:30:00 »
Been wanting to get back into the keyboard hobby but can't seem to find that passion that I once had. Bothered that I burnt myself out in the first place.

Friends don't let friends do drugs..

I built myself what I dreamt of as the perfect keyboard and now it's been collecting dust for months as I type on a Filco Majestouch. I feel like if I fix up my board it may cause me to relapse. Wondering if I even have the time to come back. I'm another year older with more responsibilities and less time. It just keeps piling on.
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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23757 on: Mon, 27 November 2017, 22:43:02 »
Been wanting to get back into the keyboard hobby but can't seem to find that passion that I once had. Bothered that I burnt myself out in the first place.

Well that's a name I haven't seen in a while...

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23758 on: Mon, 27 November 2017, 23:42:00 »
Been wanting to get back into the keyboard hobby but can't seem to find that passion that I once had. Bothered that I burnt myself out in the first place.

Friends don't let friends do drugs..

I built myself what I dreamt of as the perfect keyboard and now it's been collecting dust for months as I type on a Filco Majestouch. I feel like if I fix up my board it may cause me to relapse. Wondering if I even have the time to come back. I'm another year older with more responsibilities and less time. It just keeps piling on.


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« Reply #23759 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 04:06:43 »
I'm pretty sure it's the sitting behind a computer all day.

I may need to consider putting in a work order for one of those fancy standing desks :(
Consider going to a gym or swimming pool. And stretching. Stretching is the most important.
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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23760 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 08:34:41 »
Been wanting to get back into the keyboard hobby but can't seem to find that passion that I once had. Bothered that I burnt myself out in the first place.
Nothing is as exciting as it was in the first place, you just got to find something in keyboards that is new to you.
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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23761 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 13:47:34 »
Been wanting to get back into the keyboard hobby but can't seem to find that passion that I once had. Bothered that I burnt myself out in the first place.
Nothing is as exciting as it was in the first place, you just got to find something in keyboards that is new to you.

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23762 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 13:59:59 »
Been wanting to get back into the keyboard hobby but can't seem to find that passion that I once had. Bothered that I burnt myself out in the first place.

Blast from the past my guy

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23763 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 14:16:27 »
Been wanting to get back into the keyboard hobby but can't seem to find that passion that I once had. Bothered that I burnt myself out in the first place.

Well that's a name I haven't seen in a while...

Yeah it's been quite some time, glad to see you're still around Xondat.

Been wanting to get back into the keyboard hobby but can't seem to find that passion that I once had. Bothered that I burnt myself out in the first place.
Nothing is as exciting as it was in the first place, you just got to find something in keyboards that is new to you.

Yeah I know but I just have no more motivation. I went as far as designing and creating a board that was ready for production but never pulled the trigger.

Been wanting to get back into the keyboard hobby but can't seem to find that passion that I once had. Bothered that I burnt myself out in the first place.

Blast from the past my guy

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23764 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 20:03:41 »
Been wanting to get back into the keyboard hobby but can't seem to find that passion that I once had. Bothered that I burnt myself out in the first place.

Friends don't let friends do drugs..

I built myself what I dreamt of as the perfect keyboard and now it's been collecting dust for months as I type on a Filco Majestouch. I feel like if I fix up my board it may cause me to relapse. Wondering if I even have the time to come back. I'm another year older with more responsibilities and less time. It just keeps piling on.

All of what you said happens to pretty much all of us.

At least it is a good learning experience to begin with, and then you can apply that knowledge as you go forward.
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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23765 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 11:08:47 »
Fruit flies laid claim to the keurig's tank. I wouldn't have known about the fruit fly occupation if the k10 mini didn't have an overheating/overflow issue. *shivers*

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« Reply #23766 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 11:11:52 »
Fruit flies laid claim to the keurig's tank. I wouldn't have known about the fruit fly occupation if the k10 mini didn't have an overheating/overflow issue. *shivers*

u realize, u can't ever get the funk out..

It's fruit fly pewp coffee forever now..

Even if you swap out some of the tubing..  Because no surface is fundamentally flawless, it will always contain trace quantities of fruitfly pewp..

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23767 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 11:28:35 »
Fruit flies laid claim to the keurig's tank. I wouldn't have known about the fruit fly occupation if the k10 mini didn't have an overheating/overflow issue. *shivers*

u realize, u can't ever get the funk out..

It's fruit fly pewp coffee forever now..

Even if you swap out some of the tubing..  Because no surface is fundamentally flawless, it will always contain trace quantities of fruitfly pewp..

Haha, the keurig is outside waiting for trash pickup.


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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23768 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 12:17:30 »
Im bothered by the fact that I'm supposed to be choosing classes for high school today but I'm sitting at home sick with a nosebleed and can't go to school...

ughhhh

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23769 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 12:59:08 »
Im bothered by the fact that I'm supposed to be choosing classes for high school today but I'm sitting at home sick with a nosebleed and can't go to school...

ughhhh

hahahah..

pick all the computer classes,  that's all you need to know.

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23770 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 13:06:34 »
Im bothered by the fact that I'm supposed to be choosing classes for high school today but I'm sitting at home sick with a nosebleed and can't go to school...

ughhhh

hahahah..

pick all the computer classes,  that's all you need to know.

My plan exactly hehe, I went for Architecture and Digital Technology and now realise that I'm going to have no friends in those classes.
welp, career before friends.

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23771 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 14:31:03 »
Im bothered by the fact that I'm supposed to be choosing classes for high school today but I'm sitting at home sick with a nosebleed and can't go to school...

ughhhh

hahahah..

pick all the computer classes,  that's all you need to know.

My plan exactly hehe, I went for Architecture and Digital Technology and now realise that I'm going to have no friends in those classes.
welp, career before friends.

There we go. That's the spirit :)

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23772 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 14:37:21 »
Im bothered by the fact that I'm supposed to be choosing classes for high school today but I'm sitting at home sick with a nosebleed and can't go to school...

ughhhh

hahahah..

pick all the computer classes,  that's all you need to know.

My plan exactly hehe, I went for Architecture and Digital Technology and now realise that I'm going to have no friends in those classes.
welp, career before friends.

There we go. That's the spirit :)

Very hard choice to make, but it's for my own good.   :)

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23773 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 20:04:46 »
Frontier is awful....they claim I didn't pay last months bill (which I have a hard time believing since I always pay my bills usually early) and have a late charge but the now new current bill is still higher than the 2 regular bills plus the late fee.....urghhh I wish I had some other options....

Edit: Oh this is rich....they switched me to paperless billing without notifying me and they don't send out any kind of reminders or anything like that and I just noticed my internet cost has went up for the second time in ~ 3 months.... >:(

Edit 2: I'm honestly not sure if I'm even chatting with a real person or if its a really good bot....  ???

Edit 3: Definitely a bot they asked if I had any other questions and within 10 seconds closed the chat due to inactivity  :-\
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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23774 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 20:40:21 »
Frontier is awful....they claim I didn't pay last months bill (which I have a hard time believing since I always pay my bills usually early) and have a late charge but the now new current bill is still higher than the 2 regular bills plus the late fee.....urghhh I wish I had some other options....

Edit: Oh this is rich....they switched me to paperless billing without notifying me and they don't send out any kind of reminders or anything like that and I just noticed my internet cost has went up for the second time in ~ 3 months.... >:(

Edit 2: I'm honestly not sure if I'm even chatting with a real person or if its a really good bot....  ???

Edit 3: Definitely a bot they asked if I had any other questions and within 10 seconds closed the chat due to inactivity  :-\


U got get on the Fios...

Yea, it's overpriced.. but at least haz Gigabit.. !!

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23775 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 20:42:13 »
Frontier is awful....they claim I didn't pay last months bill (which I have a hard time believing since I always pay my bills usually early) and have a late charge but the now new current bill is still higher than the 2 regular bills plus the late fee.....urghhh I wish I had some other options....

Edit: Oh this is rich....they switched me to paperless billing without notifying me and they don't send out any kind of reminders or anything like that and I just noticed my internet cost has went up for the second time in ~ 3 months.... >:(

Edit 2: I'm honestly not sure if I'm even chatting with a real person or if its a really good bot....  ???

Edit 3: Definitely a bot they asked if I had any other questions and within 10 seconds closed the chat due to inactivity  :-\


U got get on the Fios...

Yea, it's overpriced.. but at least haz Gigabit.. !!
I live 10+ miles from town we just got dsl like a few years ago.

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23776 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 20:45:42 »

I live 10+ miles from town we just got dsl like a few years ago.



How you even google with dsl.. hahaha just kidn'


I'm pretty sure they're lenient on the late refund as long as you're not one of those late all the time customers.




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« Reply #23777 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 20:48:34 »

I live 10+ miles from town we just got dsl like a few years ago.



How you even google with dsl.. hahaha just kidn'


I'm pretty sure they're lenient on the late refund as long as you're not one of those late all the time customers.
Yeah they said 2-3 billing cycles I'll get $9 credit but I dunno about extra taxes and the base cost went up $5 for internet.

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23778 on: Fri, 01 December 2017, 19:33:15 »
This one is keyboard related



MIA, #cat

anybody on here relate? this set now has little value without it and last I checked, there is no GMK grab bag.

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MIA, #cat

anybody on here relate? this set now has little value without it and last I checked, there is no GMK grab bag.

you could try contacting sherry @ originative he might have some busted up sets for parts

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« Reply #23780 on: Fri, 01 December 2017, 19:48:22 »
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MIA, #cat

anybody on here relate? this set now has little value without it and last I checked, there is no GMK grab bag.

you could try contacting sherry @ originative he might have some busted up sets for parts

I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask, yeah. I am just trying to think where my cat would have taken it if it was indeed her.

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MIA, #cat

anybody on here relate? this set now has little value without it and last I checked, there is no GMK grab bag.

you could try contacting sherry @ originative he might have some busted up sets for parts

I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask, yeah. I am just trying to think where my cat would have taken it if it was indeed her.

Mine would have put it under a couch.

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23782 on: Mon, 04 December 2017, 13:17:26 »
Moon phase unicode refuses to line up with me fancy i3wm bar fonts. I tried to insult unicode's lack of sex appeal. But that didn't work :confused:

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23783 on: Mon, 04 December 2017, 16:27:39 »
THE CORRUPT DINOSAUR MEDIA, LEFT WING ESTABLISHMENT, DEMOCRATIC PARTY, SAUL ALINSKI, HILLARY CLINTON, GEORGE SOROS, BARACK OBAMA, HARVEY WEINSTEIN, AND CRAPPLE ARE BOTHERING ME.
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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23784 on: Mon, 04 December 2017, 16:29:18 »
THE CORRUPT DINOSAUR MEDIA, LEFT WING ESTABLISHMENT, DEMOCRATIC PARTY, SAUL ALINSKI, HILLARY CLINTON, GEORGE SOROS, BARACK OBAMA, HARVEY WEINSTEIN, AND CRAPPLE ARE BOTHERING ME.

WHAT ABOUT ANTIFA???

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23785 on: Mon, 04 December 2017, 16:30:38 »
THEY BOTHER ME TOO.

DON'T FORGET:

BLACK LIVES MATTER
NFL
HOLLYWOOD
CHUCK SCHUMER
JOHN CONYERS
RADICAL FEMINISM
WASHINGTON COMPOST
GOOGLE
AMAZON
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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23786 on: Mon, 04 December 2017, 16:31:10 »
 :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23787 on: Mon, 04 December 2017, 16:47:05 »
Hello, microsoft windows. We had great times with the html frames and such. I'm glad you're back

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23788 on: Mon, 04 December 2017, 20:14:15 »


TRUMP FTW!!

 Whoa, talk about a blast from the past.

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23789 on: Tue, 05 December 2017, 17:25:33 »
THEY BOTHER ME TOO.

DON'T FORGET:

BLACK LIVES MATTER
NFL
HOLLYWOOD
CHUCK SCHUMER
JOHN CONYERS
RADICAL FEMINISM
WASHINGTON COMPOST
GOOGLE
AMAZON
No chance for Facebook?
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23790 on: Wed, 06 December 2017, 16:00:36 »
GOOD MEMORY - I FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE. FACEBOOK, AND ALL THE CENSORSHIP-RIDDEN TECHNOCRATIC ENTITIES BOTHER ME. TIME FOR ANTITRUST TO BREAK THEM UP!
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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23791 on: Thu, 07 December 2017, 14:52:31 »
Spilled one tiny little minuscule drop of mustard sauce on my shirt and now it's all I can smell for the rest of the day

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23792 on: Thu, 07 December 2017, 16:30:10 »
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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23794 on: Thu, 07 December 2017, 17:11:38 »
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Hahaha,  it's begun long ago..



Soon..... /Love Skynet..

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23796 on: Thu, 07 December 2017, 18:36:48 »
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Yet another reason to run Linux

Aye. Here's the thing, I have issues working with others via freecad. I've found that Fusion 360 (or having a copy of Windows handy) makes my life easier.

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23797 on: Thu, 07 December 2017, 18:38:59 »
LINUX IS AN EXCELLENT CHOICE OF OPERATING SYSTEMS. I PREFER IT SECOND TO WINDOWS 98 AND HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE IT.
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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23798 on: Thu, 07 December 2017, 18:58:47 »
LINUX IS AN EXCELLENT CHOICE OF OPERATING SYSTEMS. I PREFER IT SECOND TO WINDOWS 98 AND HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE IT.

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Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Reply #23799 on: Thu, 07 December 2017, 20:47:30 »
LINUX IS AN EXCELLENT CHOICE OF OPERATING SYSTEMS. I PREFER IT SECOND TO WINDOWS 98 AND HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE IT.

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Arch + i3? I approve.
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