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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #200 on: Tue, 30 July 2013, 14:41:58 »
I have one that was NIB that I modded (took all the helical springs out) and no-one has bought it in 2 years... I don't understand why a bunch of you people are spouting all this praise for a switch THAT NO-ONE WILL BUY...
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #201 on: Tue, 30 July 2013, 14:46:02 »
I have one that was NIB that I modded (took all the helical springs out) and no-one has bought it in 2 years... I don't understand why a bunch of you people are spouting all this praise for a switch THAT NO-ONE WILL BUY...
People saw that moose was trolling around  about MY and started to ****ride him.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #202 on: Tue, 30 July 2013, 14:47:03 »
I have one that was NIB that I modded (took all the helical springs out) and no-one has bought it in 2 years... I don't understand why a bunch of you people are spouting all this praise for a switch THAT NO-ONE WILL BUY...
People saw that moose was trolling around  about MY and started to ****ride him.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #203 on: Tue, 30 July 2013, 14:48:48 »
I have one that was NIB that I modded (took all the helical springs out) and no-one has bought it in 2 years... I don't understand why a bunch of you people are spouting all this praise for a switch THAT NO-ONE WILL BUY...
People saw that moose was trolling around  about MY and started to ****ride him.

I believe it's called "clopping" or "hind hoof", or was it some other word...

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #204 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 14:40:11 »
I have to rethink this now because my preferences have changed.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #205 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 14:47:52 »
People wittering on about how tenkeyless is ergonomically *sooooo* much better than a full keyboard when they are still using a staggered layout with QWERTY.

Also, backlit boards and novelty keycaps.

QFT... I used to be one of those n00bs until I became one with the Ergodox.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #206 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 14:53:19 »
Can't get that ergodox hype. Hope it's over soon.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #207 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 14:53:53 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #208 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 14:55:08 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.

Well you know, variable force topre costs what? 130 bucks, that's less than a filco
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #209 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 14:56:19 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.

Well you know, variable force topre costs what? 130 bucks, that's less than a filco

It's mostly the import cost..  and the (vanity) cost that surrounds "all" mechanical keyboards.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #210 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 14:57:13 »
Can't get that ergodox hype. Hope it's over soon.

It's not a hype. the board really is better... it fixes 9/10 of the things enthusiast find horrid on staggered qwerty..

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #211 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 14:57:57 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.

Well you know, variable force topre costs what? 130 bucks, that's less than a filco

Variable force, ew.
$130? Still more expensive than any other mechanical I've ever bought...

Who knows, maybe someday I'll break down and buy a Topre, but I don't see that happening any time soon...
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #212 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 14:58:58 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.

Well you know, variable force topre costs what? 130 bucks, that's less than a filco

Variable force, ew.
$130? Still more expensive than any other mechanical I've ever bought...

Who knows, maybe someday I'll break down and buy a Topre, but I don't see that happening any time soon...


Have you used variable force Topre?

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #213 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 14:59:32 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.

Well you know, variable force topre costs what? 130 bucks, that's less than a filco

Variable force, ew.
$130? Still more expensive than any other mechanical I've ever bought...

Who knows, maybe someday I'll break down and buy a Topre, but I don't see that happening any time soon...

Topre for the sake of the brand )) No seriously, I do kinda fancy mine. Haven't tested uniform tho, most likely never will.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #214 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:01:37 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.

Well you know, variable force topre costs what? 130 bucks, that's less than a filco

Variable force, ew.
$130? Still more expensive than any other mechanical I've ever bought...

Who knows, maybe someday I'll break down and buy a Topre, but I don't see that happening any time soon...


Have you used variable force Topre?

I don't have to. I am fairly certain it's a feature that I would absolutely hate because I am not a home-row typist (more of a two-finger typist).

So the lighter keys that are designed to be pinky-activated would be too soft for my pointer/middle fingers...
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #215 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:07:54 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.

Well you know, variable force topre costs what? 130 bucks, that's less than a filco

Variable force, ew.
$130? Still more expensive than any other mechanical I've ever bought...

Who knows, maybe someday I'll break down and buy a Topre, but I don't see that happening any time soon...


Have you used variable force Topre?

I don't have to. I am fairly certain it's a feature that I would absolutely hate because I am not a home-row typist (more of a two-finger typist).

So the lighter keys that are designed to be pinky-activated would be too soft for my pointer/middle fingers...

I don't get it, you guys claim to "wuv" topre,  yet you won't buy a utron, which is arguable the best topre board out.. split keys and programmable "and" topre

Staggered qwerty is so bad...  why do you guys put up with it.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #216 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:10:30 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.

Well you know, variable force topre costs what? 130 bucks, that's less than a filco

Variable force, ew.
$130? Still more expensive than any other mechanical I've ever bought...

Who knows, maybe someday I'll break down and buy a Topre, but I don't see that happening any time soon...


Have you used variable force Topre?

I don't have to. I am fairly certain it's a feature that I would absolutely hate because I am not a home-row typist (more of a two-finger typist).

So the lighter keys that are designed to be pinky-activated would be too soft for my pointer/middle fingers...


Right ok...

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #217 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:12:23 »
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #218 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:12:28 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.

Well you know, variable force topre costs what? 130 bucks, that's less than a filco

Variable force, ew.
$130? Still more expensive than any other mechanical I've ever bought...

Who knows, maybe someday I'll break down and buy a Topre, but I don't see that happening any time soon...


Have you used variable force Topre?

I don't have to. I am fairly certain it's a feature that I would absolutely hate because I am not a home-row typist (more of a two-finger typist).

So the lighter keys that are designed to be pinky-activated would be too soft for my pointer/middle fingers...


Right ok...

I know, it's a bit weird that I love mechanical keyboards yet don't even know how to type properly.  :p
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #219 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:14:02 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.

Well you know, variable force topre costs what? 130 bucks, that's less than a filco

Variable force, ew.
$130? Still more expensive than any other mechanical I've ever bought...

Who knows, maybe someday I'll break down and buy a Topre, but I don't see that happening any time soon...


Have you used variable force Topre?

I don't have to. I am fairly certain it's a feature that I would absolutely hate because I am not a home-row typist (more of a two-finger typist).

So the lighter keys that are designed to be pinky-activated would be too soft for my pointer/middle fingers...


Right ok...

I know, it's a bit weird that I love mechanical keyboards yet don't even know how to type properly.  :p

It's shameful for a GH member to not be at least 125wpm. LOL...  that's the cutoff in most typing tutors I think.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #220 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:14:36 »
I don't find that strange, I find it strange that you have completely dismissed a great keyboard with no experience of it.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #221 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:15:23 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.

Well you know, variable force topre costs what? 130 bucks, that's less than a filco

Variable force, ew.
$130? Still more expensive than any other mechanical I've ever bought...

Who knows, maybe someday I'll break down and buy a Topre, but I don't see that happening any time soon...


Have you used variable force Topre?

I don't have to. I am fairly certain it's a feature that I would absolutely hate because I am not a home-row typist (more of a two-finger typist).

So the lighter keys that are designed to be pinky-activated would be too soft for my pointer/middle fingers...


Right ok...

I know, it's a bit weird that I love mechanical keyboards yet don't even know how to type properly.  :p

It's shameful for a GH member to not be at least 125wpm. LOL...  that's the cutoff in most typing tutors I think.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #222 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:16:27 »
I don't find that strange, I find it strange that you have completely dismissed a great keyboard with no experience of it.

which keyboard have I dismissed that wasn't staggered qwerty. 

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #223 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:17:01 »
The cost of Topre keyboards.

Well you know, variable force topre costs what? 130 bucks, that's less than a filco

Variable force, ew.
$130? Still more expensive than any other mechanical I've ever bought...

Who knows, maybe someday I'll break down and buy a Topre, but I don't see that happening any time soon...


Have you used variable force Topre?

I don't have to. I am fairly certain it's a feature that I would absolutely hate because I am not a home-row typist (more of a two-finger typist).

So the lighter keys that are designed to be pinky-activated would be too soft for my pointer/middle fingers...


Right ok...

I know, it's a bit weird that I love mechanical keyboards yet don't even know how to type properly.  :p

It's shameful for a GH member to not be at least 125wpm. LOL...  that's the cutoff in most typing tutors I think.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #224 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:17:30 »
I don't find that strange, I find it strange that you have completely dismissed a great keyboard with no experience of it.

which keyboard have I dismissed that wasn't staggered qwerty.


I wasn't talking to you.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #225 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:20:06 »
I don't find that strange, I find it strange that you have completely dismissed a great keyboard with no experience of it.

which keyboard have I dismissed that wasn't staggered qwerty.


I wasn't talking to you.

Well I'm not so much dismissing the keyboard, more the variable-forced switches.  I bet if I tried a uniform Topre I'd fall in love with it and wouldn't look back...
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #226 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 17:07:23 »
Can't get that ergodox hype. Hope it's over soon.

This so much, I have no idea why it is so popular.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #227 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 17:23:18 »
Any of these korean customs make no sense to me. They don't offer anything, are ridiculously expensive. That goes for Korean springs as well. Who cares if it comes from Korea, custom compression springs could be easily made for MX switches in the USA.

Sometimes I am sad to be a Texan.
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OT: Probably the ErgoDox. It really doesn't seem good at all to me, and tp4tissue has done a good job turning everyone off from it. If I wouldn't get anything, it would be a keyboard case and probably clacks. Ridiculously expensive without giving you a new switch or the ability to type any better. Typing has always been about speed, with feel important insofar as it limits my typing less.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #228 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 17:41:44 »
Can't get that ergodox hype. Hope it's over soon.

This so much, I have no idea why it is so popular.

Unlike typewriter-like QWERTY, it actually fits human hand physiology. Actually, it isn't perfect yet, but it's getting close.

And it's open hardware.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #229 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 17:46:12 »
OT: Probably the ErgoDox. It really doesn't seem good at all to me, and tp4tissue has done a good job turning everyone off from it.

Everyone? I recommend to read some introductory logic textbook.

Typing has always been about speed, with feel important insofar as it limits my typing less.

Nah. Those, who actually care about speed, use stenography/stenotype.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #230 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 21:02:22 »
OT: Probably the ErgoDox. It really doesn't seem good at all to me, and tp4tissue has done a good job turning everyone off from it.

Everyone? I recommend to read some introductory logic textbook.

Typing has always been about speed, with feel important insofar as it limits my typing less.

Nah. Those, who actually care about speed, use stenography/stenotype.

Nasty generalization you've got there. I don't know what's in your mind, but you completely misquoted me. The meaning of the quote is that I type for speed, not for comfort.
About the first, it's quite true. All the people who respond to him are generally in disgust with his stupidity. That does NOT mean that nobody wants the ED, it just means that people who have come in contact with him are generally less interested.

I'd also recommend that you read a grammar textbook. "I recommend that you/for you to read some introductory logic textbooks.
Those who actually care about speed (no comma) use stenotype."
It always seems that the more obsessed one is with their keyboard, the more incoherent they become.

Ad hominem attack immediately, massive misrepresentation and leap on logic next.
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« Reply #231 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 21:08:16 »
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #233 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 21:35:03 »
Can't get that ergodox hype. Hope it's over soon.

It's not a hype. the board really is better... it fixes 9/10 of the things enthusiast find horrid on staggered qwerty..

If someone made a split ergo with STAGGERED keys I'd be all over it, tried the TECK and the un-staggered keys did my head in. As much as people say you get used to it I work in IT so I'm often forced to use horrid rubber domes, this means I'm forced to stay with staggered layouts.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #234 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 22:19:54 »
Yeah, ErgoDox and Stickers might be the big ones for me.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #235 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 12:13:15 »
ErgoDox  the key that under the thumb doesn't feel comfortable to me

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #236 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 12:36:52 »
It would probably be paying $450+ for a Topre Clack.
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #237 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 12:49:14 »
It might have already been said "rubber keyboards". If your old enough you may remember the Sinclair ZX81 computer back in the early 80's, the worst keyboard I've ever used... total finger workout lol

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #238 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 13:41:49 »
Yeah, ErgoDox and Stickers might be the big ones for me.
But stickers are cool...
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #239 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 13:50:52 »
Probably Blue switches. I understand that people have different tastes and that's totally cool, but I don't think I will ever "get" the draw of clicky switches; something about the specific sound pattern or pitch in the Blue switches I've heard just drives me nuts (and not in a good way).

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #240 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 13:53:06 »
Ergodox. Sorry, tp.  :llama:

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #241 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 13:55:52 »
Novelty keycaps.
I mean I can sort of understand having ONE tasteful novelty keycap for Esc, but unicorn vomit boards and people who spend ungodly amounts of money for a single keycap just confuse me.

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Oh gods yes this. I can understand wanting different color schemes and such, sure. I mean, I may yet load up my Ducky DK9008G2 with my white/grays from t because I like the white/gray scheme. But they're also, you know, keycaps. They have letters and symbols printed on them in a readable font. And it'd probably look quite nice.
But what the hell is the point of a CC? You're not going to use it on a keyboard, if you do it's going to be insanely uncomfortable for regular use, and so on. And crazy unreadable fonts like Deck's or some of the sets I've seen.. I mean really! What is the point? You just spent $150 to make your keyboard unreadable when you could have just gotten blank caps and achieved the same effect!

This! I like that saying "rainbow vomit keyboard," and whoever made that up is clever. I get the whole trying to make the keyboard look cool, but for me it's the one that gets different textured keys that doesn't look cool to me. Don't get me wrong I am guilty for buying the Mario and Luigi kecaps, and the Zelda caps, but that is where I draw the line.  ;D

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #242 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 14:21:47 »
I AM BABAR KING OF THE ELEPHANTS

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #243 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 14:27:14 »
Me also for Ergodox.

Are my keys staggered? Yes. Luckily, my hands can move.  Yay for my super powers

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #244 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 16:41:29 »
Brown and Red Cherry switches

Offline Hellmark

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #245 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 17:14:29 »
I have to go for linear switches too. I've been using a keyboard with Cherry MY switches this week, and have to say, lack of tactility sucks.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #246 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 20:53:45 »
Wait... are browns not tactile?
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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #247 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 21:02:40 »
Wait... are browns not tactile?

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #248 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 21:13:56 »
Wait... are browns not tactile?

Only if you slam your keys.

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Re: What keyboard things will you never 'get'?
« Reply #249 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:33:35 »
youtube videos where 50% of the time is eaten up by the typist getting themselves ready