Self-driving vehicles will be on the roads soon, what do you think of them?

[davkol]

As the sole driver in my household I like the idea of self driving cars. It could pick up the kids from school. I could do some work on the 2+ hour drives I often need to do outside the office, read a book or take a nap. It'd be cheaper than owning a car that sits inactive 90% of the time.

That's my point exactly.

Driving kids from school? Sounds like there isn't a good school within walking distance (or kids aren't fit/active enough to walk).
Long business trips by car? Sounds like there isn't railway infrastructure in most cases.
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[tp4tissue]

As the sole driver in my household I like the idea of self driving cars. It could pick up the kids from school. I could do some work on the 2+ hour drives I often need to do outside the office, read a book or take a nap. It'd be cheaper than owning a car that sits inactive 90% of the time.

That's my point exactly.

Driving kids from school? Sounds like there isn't a good school within walking distance (or kids aren't fit/active enough to walk).
Long business trips by car? Sounds like there isn't railway infrastructure in most cases.
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Stay HOME.. Use AMAZON.com..

They're working on the robots.. give it time.

[vivalarevolución]

Long business trips by car? Sounds like there isn't railway infrastructure in most cases.
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Lol, railway infrastructure in the United States.  It's highways, highways, and more highways here in the USA, my friend! 

Plenty of airports in smaller cities, though.

[xtrafrood]

Long business trips by car? Sounds like there isn't railway infrastructure in most cases.
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Lol, railway infrastructure in the United States.  It's highways, highways, and more highways here in the USA, my friend! 

Plenty of airports in smaller cities, though.

Riding a bicycle can be downright dangerous. For me the order of favorite public transportation is - Airplane > Trolley > Subway > Bicycle > city bus (I've found that in some cities I can outpace the city bus with a decent road bike)

Railways? I've ridden on one train but that was not in the states and I was a baby so I can't remember the experience. /share

[vivalarevolución]

I actually cannot stand flying anymore, for a number of reasons.  I avoid it at all costs.

In most US cities, bicycle riding is a no-go, they just didn't make space for it on the roads.  Some cities have good infrastructure, and a lot of others are working to expand the biking infrastructure.  Unfortunately, like with public transit, the cities are too spread out to attract many bicycle riders onto the infrastructure.  Also, people are too lazy to ride bikes.

[Shapey Fiend]

As the sole driver in my household I like the idea of self driving cars. It could pick up the kids from school. I could do some work on the 2+ hour drives I often need to do outside the office, read a book or take a nap. It'd be cheaper than owning a car that sits inactive 90% of the time.

That's my point exactly.

Driving kids from school? Sounds like there isn't a good school within walking distance (or kids aren't fit/active enough to walk).
Long business trips by car? Sounds like there isn't railway infrastructure in most cases.
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I live in the country a couple of miles away. They do walk home for a couple of months a year but they finish study at 6pm so it's getting dark and wintery now. Public infrastructure really works best when you've got high population density. In Ireland there's been a history of bad urban planning as well so the cities spread all over the place with low level buildings instead of building upwards so the transport infrastructure in the major cities is patchy.

If you live in a place like Singapore or Tokyo walking or cycling everywhere makes a ton of sense but that's because they've planned that out decades in advance.

[davkol]

I actually live near an extremely compact historical city with a former Habsburg fortress turned into parks. [1] It's amazing, but I've seen anything similar only Switzerland and some parts of Scandinavia.

[vivalarevolución]

I actually live near an extremely compact historical city with a former Habsburg fortress turned into parks. [1] It's amazing, but I've seen anything similar only Switzerland and some parts of Scandinavia.

Prepare the spare bedroom, I'm coming to visit!

[SRTroN]

I am really interested in what happens in this area. I think that driving yourself will eventually become a hobby for those that choose it rather than a necessity (a bit like mechanical keyboards?).

[davkol]

I am really interested in what happens in this area. I think that driving yourself will eventually become a hobby for those that choose it rather than a necessity (a bit like mechanical keyboards?).

Maybe in racing circuits.

Cars depend on public infrastructure and if self-driving vehicles become common enough, there'll be no reason to allow civilian drivers among them, because they'd increase risk of accidents, obstruct the traffic by behaving unpredictably etc.

[Shapey Fiend]

Outright banning owner operated cars would be a bit extreme. I know they present a certain risk to the public but it's not like a handgun. I think the self driving cars should be able to deal with the unpredictability of humans, particularly if there are very few of them.

I'd warrant a significant proportion of the road deaths from where I'm from are suicide masked as accidents. People would rather their family and friends didn't know.

[xtrafrood]

Outright banning owner operated cars would be a bit extreme. I know they present a certain risk to the public but it's not like a handgun. I think the self driving cars should be able to deal with the unpredictability of humans, particularly if there are very few of them.

I'd warrant a significant proportion of the road deaths from where I'm from are suicide masked as accidents. People would rather their family and friends didn't know.

I agree, definitely not like a handgun. Sometimes worse than handguns

[tp4tissue]

Outright banning owner operated cars would be a bit extreme. I know they present a certain risk to the public but it's not like a handgun. I think the self driving cars should be able to deal with the unpredictability of humans, particularly if there are very few of them.

I'd warrant a significant proportion of the road deaths from where I'm from are suicide masked as accidents. People would rather their family and friends didn't know.

wha......   How could you know this...

also,  are you in a suicide high area ? where is this.. ?

[vivalarevolución]

Personally, I would recommend a different method of suicide than attempting to do it through a car accident.  Seems kinda brutal and unpredictable.

[0100010]

Well, I guess this one way to simplify the cars logic...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a23377/mercedes-self-driving-cars/

[noisyturtle]

Well, I guess this one way to simplify the cars logic...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a23377/mercedes-self-driving-cars/

Honestly I think they should kill the driver. The pedestrian already has it ****ty enough that they are walking and not in a luxury vehicle, while the driver obviously has it good already.

[tp4tissue]

Well, I guess this one way to simplify the cars logic...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a23377/mercedes-self-driving-cars/

Honestly I think they should kill the driver. The pedestrian already has it ****ty enough that they are walking and not in a luxury vehicle, while the driver obviously has it good already.

ok, but what if the pedestrian is an easily replaceable mildly motivated worker,  while the Mercedes occupant is a high functioning scientist..


One life is equivalent to another.. in that they cost the same to maintain.. 3 meals, water, and a roof overhead..

However,  the utility of some people over others relative to --society's needs, may be tilted towards one side.

[vivalarevolución]

Well, I guess this one way to simplify the cars logic...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a23377/mercedes-self-driving-cars/

Honestly I think they should kill the driver. The pedestrian already has it ****ty enough that they are walking and not in a luxury vehicle, while the driver obviously has it good already.

There ya go, thinking like a true Mercedes driver.

[iri]

Well, I guess this one way to simplify the cars logic...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a23377/mercedes-self-driving-cars/

Honestly I think they should kill the driver. The pedestrian already has it ****ty enough that they are walking and not in a luxury vehicle, while the driver obviously has it good already.

There ya go, thinking like a true Mercedes driver.

) ) )

[SBJ]

Well, I guess this one way to simplify the cars logic...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a23377/mercedes-self-driving-cars/

Honestly I think they should kill the driver. The pedestrian already has it ****ty enough that they are walking and not in a luxury vehicle, while the driver obviously has it good already.

ok, but what if the pedestrian is an easily replaceable mildly motivated worker,  while the Mercedes occupant is a high functioning scientist..


One life is equivalent to another.. in that they cost the same to maintain.. 3 meals, water, and a roof overhead..

However,  the utility of some people over others relative to --society's needs, may be tilted towards one side.

So are you saying it's okay for some people to die because they're worth less than others?

[vivalarevolución]

You must not be familiar with tp's sociopathic ramblings.

[benderkey]

I blame GTA.

[tp4tissue]

Well, I guess this one way to simplify the cars logic...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a23377/mercedes-self-driving-cars/

Honestly I think they should kill the driver. The pedestrian already has it ****ty enough that they are walking and not in a luxury vehicle, while the driver obviously has it good already.

ok, but what if the pedestrian is an easily replaceable mildly motivated worker,  while the Mercedes occupant is a high functioning scientist..


One life is equivalent to another.. in that they cost the same to maintain.. 3 meals, water, and a roof overhead..

However,  the utility of some people over others relative to --society's needs, may be tilted towards one side.

So are you saying it's okay for some people to die because they're worth less than others?

Oh really,  are you saying we should be killing farmers instead of serial rapists?

What if a wealthy Farmer was driving a nice mercedes,  and the pedestrian was a serial rapist..


Farmer makes money because he sells his crops,  the rapist is poor because he spends too much time doing his --thing..



The comparison is merely a statement that YES,  certain people are worth more than others..

[tp4tissue]

You must not be familiar with tp's sociopathic ramblings.

In what way, does Tp4 haz a lack of empathy..

If anything,  you guys are drawing on your own personal jealousy of the Mercedes driver, to say he deserves to die..



It's certainly possible that SOME mercedes drivers don't deserve what they possess in life,  but, that is going to be the rare case, because it's not actually easy to get a mercedes..

[rowdy]

Well, I guess this one way to simplify the cars logic...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a23377/mercedes-self-driving-cars/

Honestly I think they should kill the driver. The pedestrian already has it ****ty enough that they are walking and not in a luxury vehicle, while the driver obviously has it good already.

Plus, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.