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keyb0ard finally (omplete
« on: Tue, 23 August 2022, 19:27:10 »
Humble rig pieced from cheapest stuffs.

keyboard
pioneer 8" sub
amazon z-stand
walmart 32" monitor
nexus 7 tablet

thinking about using monitors/towers, but it adds so much cabling + amp ...


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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 23 August 2022, 19:30:44 »
Not the sort of keyboard I was expecting  :))

Now you've got me wondering if anyone has used keyboard keyswitches for musical keyboards. Maybe a capacitive or Hall effect switch would be a good fit?
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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 23 August 2022, 19:35:48 »
There are both optical and hall effect keyboards out there.

It's not really that useful though because most piano engines are sample based, (recording from different velocities of each key, then blend for intermediate values.

With non_sampled engines,  Modeled Virtual instruments (vsts) like Pianoteq,  they can write code to take advantage of additional tracking, but it won't make a huge difference as the piano is a percussive instrument.

Even with the optical kits that are available now, they really just translate velocity into a single midi value on output and let'r'rip.

Yamaha and kawai have a dual optical system on their acoustic action hybrid, but these are really unreliable, and acoustic actions are inherently unstable, bad choice for input into digital systems.

There is such a thing as an addon capacitative aftertouch kit,  but this is mostly for synth use, not piano.

I don't recall any hall effect mass market keyboards.

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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 24 August 2022, 21:19:30 »
Metronomes.   can't understand why anyone would ever need this. playing in rhythm is pretty straightforward once you learn the piece.  Then outside of solo, orchestras have drummers and conductors. so.. why.

Also, why do they always use the most obtrusive and shrill tick sounds.

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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 24 August 2022, 22:33:23 »
This cheap z-stand is surprisingly stable, can recommend. Tp4 has added a second cross brace to mount the monitor arm, otherwise it does have some lateral wobble.

they want another $60 for a second tier keyboard hooks, that's total bs, can build your own for $10 worth of wood.   

Thinking bout gettn'a synthesizer, buhh.... kind of a waste of money considering laptops can do the same thing although, prolly better latency with hardware.

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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 25 August 2022, 09:12:06 »
Metronomes.   can't understand why anyone would ever need this. playing in rhythm is pretty straightforward once you learn the piece.  Then outside of solo, orchestras have drummers and conductors. so.. why.

Also, why do they always use the most obtrusive and shrill tick sounds.

Personally, I just tap my foot to start then just maintain the count as I go - but that's easier to do for guitar, never had to do that when I played trumpet.

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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 25 August 2022, 09:25:48 »
Personally, I just tap my foot to start then just maintain the count as I go - but that's easier to do for guitar, never had to do that when I played trumpet.

Tp4 has tried bass guitar, and violin, gave up, too ergonomically challenging.

Considering getting the roland digital saxophone in the future, but it's sooooh.. xpensive. 


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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 25 August 2022, 09:49:01 »
Metronomes.   can't understand why anyone would ever need this. playing in rhythm is pretty straightforward once you learn the piece.  Then outside of solo, orchestras have drummers and conductors. so.. why.

Also, why do they always use the most obtrusive and shrill tick sounds.

Personally, I just tap my foot to start then just maintain the count as I go - but that's easier to do for guitar, never had to do that when I played trumpet.
for trumpet i usually end up tapping my foot for tempo if the piece is new or hard, but if i know it or don't need to count rests i just count in my head. But for learning new music or just trying to get hard parts, the metronome is nice. Haven't used one playing piano so far, but haven't played anything hard either.

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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 26 August 2022, 18:16:45 »
Thinking bout gettn' one of them pb1000 svs subs .....

This pioneer 8" sub is quite musical, but not Deep deep....


buhhhh.. $500.... idk....  Lowest note on the piano is 27hz, so lower extension would be useful..

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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 26 August 2022, 18:31:08 »
Metronomes.   can't understand why anyone would ever need this. playing in rhythm is pretty straightforward once you learn the piece.  Then outside of solo, orchestras have drummers and conductors. so.. why.

Also, why do they always use the most obtrusive and shrill tick sounds.


as a saxophone player, i constantly practice with a metronome, but honestly dont care for em much and do it more because my band teacher asked every single person in the band if they used a metronome while practicing and now im scared rather than for its actual purpose.

tho i got a ad a while back about some sort of metronome that instead vibrates and is strapped on and dousnt make any sound, might fit your needs

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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 26 August 2022, 21:14:34 »
tho i got a ad a while back about some sort of metronome that instead vibrates and is strapped on and dousnt make any sound, might fit your needs

Actually tried this, this guy Tp4 knows has it,  can barely feel it when playing piano though. it probably works better with less arm flinging instruments..

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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 27 August 2022, 03:04:23 »
it probably works better with less arm flinging instruments.. [/size][/color]
Strap it to your ankle?
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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 27 August 2022, 08:36:14 »
it probably works better with less arm flinging instruments.. [/size][/color]
Strap it to your ankle?

Interesting,  Tp4 has always thought piano lessons felt like Prison Camp.

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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 28 August 2022, 09:32:04 »
it probably works better with less arm flinging instruments..
Strap it to your ankle?

Interesting,  Tp4 has always thought piano lessons felt like Prison Camp.


Agree with Tp4,  Did not like piano lessons, Was much nicer with 1 on1, even then practicing Suck!!!!
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Re: keyb0ard finally (omplete
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 28 August 2022, 22:43:55 »

Interesting,  Tp4 has always thought piano lessons felt like Prison Camp.

Agree with Tp4,  Did not like piano lessons, Was much nicer with 1 on1, even then practicing Suck!!!!


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