What's Your Political Ideology?

[Air tree]

Curious, are you a Conservative, Libertarian, Liberal, Anarchist, Socialist, communist, fascist? 


Where do your political leanings go?


I'm a pretty steadfast Social Democrat, by all means.

[Binge]

Curious, are you a Conservative, Libertarian, Liberal, Anarchist, Socialist, communist, fascist? 


Where do your political leanings go?


I'm a pretty steadfast Social Democrat, by all means.

I'm a "**** you for asking" kind of guy.  Keep your nose on each issue and not in the business of people who aren't at your meetings, rallies, or other political gatherings.

[demik]

**** *****es get money is my political stance.

[hwood34]

this is asking for trouble

[fanpeople]

I like historical political outcomes, international relations as well as state/sub-state interactions.

For this reason I try to separate myself from the political process and tend to be interested in how a person or group manage to reach a conclusion as opposed to my group reaching the desired conclusion.

Weird I know, but it means I don't really get butt hurt at voting time.

I am sure if by some crazy chance Australia became controlled by a ****ty authoritarian government I would gel with a particular group but until then I will remain the worst kind of person.

PS voted liberal, but would probably vote greens next election just because I want to see them put in a position where they actually have to implement policy as opposed to just winging about it all the time. This is just because I want to see what and how they do things.

PPS Straya problems, no one cares.

[Air tree]

**** *****es get money is my political stance.

Run for president pls.


Demik for president 2020

this is asking for trouble

Hopefully people can just not be *****y and let people have their opinions without some silly arguments.

[alexjd99]

Let people do what they want, and socialism is stupid. Capitalism is good for weeding out successes and failures. I'm not saying we should let people starve on the street, but the whole "1% owns all the muneyz!!!!!" thing I think is stupid, that's just a byproduct of capitalism. Just because you suck at making money doesn't mean you deserve it.

I think totalitarian dictatorships are interesting too, not in the way that "we should run things like Stalin did!" but more of an interesting to talk about kinda deal.

[fanpeople]

Let people do what they want, and socialism is stupid. Capitalism is good for weeding out successes and failures. I'm not saying we should let people starve on the street, but the whole "1% owns all the muneyz!!!!!" thing I think is stupid, that's just a byproduct of capitalism. Just because you suck at making money doesn't mean you deserve it.

I think totalitarian dictatorships are interesting too, not in the way that "we should run things like Stalin did!" but more of an interesting to talk about kinda deal.

What is your sloth Ideology?

[alexjd99]

Let people do what they want, and socialism is stupid. Capitalism is good for weeding out successes and failures. I'm not saying we should let people starve on the street, but the whole "1% owns all the muneyz!!!!!" thing I think is stupid, that's just a byproduct of capitalism. Just because you suck at making money doesn't mean you deserve it.

I think totalitarian dictatorships are interesting too, not in the way that "we should run things like Stalin did!" but more of an interesting to talk about kinda deal.

What is your sloth Ideology?

Three toed ftw. Two toed are decent I guess, but they look kinda like pigs to me.

[fanpeople]

What is your sloth Ideology?

Three toed ftw. Two toed are decent I guess, but they look kinda like pigs to me.

Would you say that you are a sloth in a basket kinda person or tree sloth lover?

[alexjd99]

What is your sloth Ideology?

Three toed ftw. Two toed are decent I guess, but they look kinda like pigs to me.

Would you say that you are a sloth in a basket kinda person or tree sloth lover?

That's a tough one. I really do like a nice sloth in a tree, but I still think my favorite has to be sloth in a chair

[fanpeople]

What is your sloth Ideology?

Three toed ftw. Two toed are decent I guess, but they look kinda like pigs to me.

Would you say that you are a sloth in a basket kinda person or tree sloth lover?

That's a tough one. I really do like a nice sloth in a tree, but I still think my favorite has to be sloth in a chair

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Aw man that is one chill sloth, I am voting for her

[jacobolus]

I’m a hater of, among other things: MX switches, the IBM/QWERTY keyboard layout, the Helvetica typeface, MS Windows, Unix, C++, Adobe Camera Raw, HSV/HSL color spaces, Ruby on Rails, thefacebook.com, web apps, base ten numbers, Gibbs/Heaviside style 3-vectors, urban highways, on-street parking, low-density single-use zoning, advertising, clickbait listicles, software patents, sugary drinks, aggressive wars, religious/racial/gender discrimination, superhero films, sitcoms, cable news channels, mosquitos, cancer, sms messages, American “cheese product”, margarine, canned tuna, skim milk, decaf coffee, breakfast cereal, pulverized tea in little paper bags, the USB HID protocol, standard office furniture, inflexible shoes, shag carpets, standardized tests, long copyright terms, hair spray, air freshener and scented candles, sporks, dishwashers, fluorescent lamps, the bright blue LED streetlamps on my street, Ticketmaster, low-pressure shower heads, English orthography, lead-free solder, &c.

[hwood34]

this is asking for trouble

Hopefully people can just not be *****y and let people have their opinions without some silly arguments.

you think too highly of people

[alexjd99]

I’m a hater of, among other things: MX switches, the IBM/QWERTY keyboard layout, the Helvetica typeface, MS Windows, Unix, C++, Adobe Camera Raw, HSV/HSL color spaces, Ruby on Rails, thefacebook.com, web apps, base ten numbers, Gibbs/Heaviside style 3-vectors, urban highways, on-street parking, low-density single-use zoning, advertising, clickbait listicles, software patents, sugary drinks, aggressive wars, religious/racial/gender discrimination, superhero films, sitcoms, cable news channels, mosquitos, cancer, sms messages, American “cheese product”, margarine, skim milk, breakfast cereal, pulverized tea in little paper bags, the USB HID protocol, standard office furniture, inflexible shoes, shag carpets, standardized tests, long copyright terms, hair spray, sporks, dishwashers, fluorescent lamps, low-pressure shower heads, &c.

Low pressure shower heads can go to hell. Who in the world wants a low pressure shower head? I love mine, it's like a fire hose.

Also +1 on mosquitoes, they can go to hell too.

[demik]

**** *****es get money is my political stance.

Run for president pls.


Demik for president 2020

this is asking for trouble

Hopefully people can just not be *****y and let people have their opinions without some silly arguments.

Soon as I find a first, second and third lady I'll get on it.

[jd29]

Here Are 51 Things That Jacobolus Can't Stand

[jacobolus]

I didn’t say I can’t stand them. I said I’m a hater of them, as in, ideologically opposed. This seems like a more interesting sort of political ideology, than, say, anarcho-syndicalism, Kantianism, or disenfranchise-voters-until-the-GOP-has-a-majority-of-Congress-seats-so-we-can-cut-top-marginal-tax-rates-ism (the latter is the dominant ideology among a large proportion of America’s rich). My list of things are beyond a doubt less dumb to argue about than national politics, on a keyboard forum.

(If anyone wants to argue about whether we should use base ten or base twelve numbers, come at me.)

What’s your ideology jd29?

[jd29]

Here Are 5.1*10 Things That Jacobolus Hates

Things that are cool: dark chocolate, organic chemistry, figure drawing, spiders, and the deep south

Things that suck: the sun, dank memes, Taylor Swift, and the inability to come up with a long list on the spot

Your list is pretty agreeable, but why do you hate the USB HID protocol?

[baldgye]

Is it a political stance to just want to burn it all down?

[jacobolus]

Nah, I don’t even hate all these things. I’m a hater of them, which is different. I use the term somewhat tongue-in-cheek. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hater – sadly urbandictionary is not really capturing the full/correct connotation of this word, IMO.

Have you ever tried to implement the USB HID spec, e.g. to write your own keyboard firmware? If you had, you would understand.

[swimmingbird]

socially left
fiscally right

[CPTBadAss]

**** *****es get money is my political stance.

Same party here

[dgneo]

Illuminati want my mind, soul, and my body.

[Binge]

Illuminati want my mind, soul, and my body.

As long as they have Alison Brie on their roster I'm as good as taken.

[fohat.digs]

I consider myself a practical realist. Identify problems and solve them.

What are the most important problems facing the world today?
In my opinion: (1) pollution/climate change, (2) income inequality, (3) war.

These 3 are often tied together and all are exacerbated by exponentially increasing population, almost exclusively in the already-poorest, least advanced, and most-stressed areas of the world.

Those who defend the status quo are often the enemy to me, particularly in any area having to do with the accumulation and hoarding of financial resources. Those who advocate real progressive solutions (eg climate accords, Affordable Health Care, etc) to real immediate problems are the good guys.

Although I have always hated the Roman Catholic Church, I find Pope Francis's encyclical to be one of the most awesome and inspiring pieces that I have read in a long time. Just ignore the part about "The Hebrew God" and everything else is dead on. Any of you who have not read it (it's only 80 pages long) should do so.

[vivalarevolución]

I’m a hater of, among other things: MX switches, the IBM/QWERTY keyboard layout, the Helvetica typeface, MS Windows, Unix, C++, Adobe Camera Raw, HSV/HSL color spaces, Ruby on Rails, thefacebook.com, web apps, base ten numbers, Gibbs/Heaviside style 3-vectors, urban highways, on-street parking, low-density single-use zoning, advertising, clickbait listicles, software patents, sugary drinks, aggressive wars, religious/racial/gender discrimination, superhero films, sitcoms, cable news channels, mosquitos, cancer, sms messages, American “cheese product”, margarine, canned tuna, skim milk, decaf coffee, breakfast cereal, pulverized tea in little paper bags, the USB HID protocol, standard office furniture, inflexible shoes, shag carpets, standardized tests, long copyright terms, hair spray, air freshener and scented candles, sporks, dishwashers, fluorescent lamps, the bright blue LED streetlamps on my street, Ticketmaster, low-pressure shower heads, English orthography, lead-free solder, &c.

So you hate modern civilization in general?  A solid titanium spork is a good option, I think you should reconsider.


Anyways, please don't subscribe to ideologies, you might end up blindly following them without any consideration of other viewpoints and possibilities.

[hwood34]

In my opinion: (1) pollution/climate change, (2) income inequality, (3) war.

These 3 are often tied together

Just curious how you tie these three together?

[fohat.digs]

Just curious how you tie these three together?

The "wealthy elite" whether it be individuals or nations promote all 3, either implicitly or explicitly, through their relentless efforts to vacuum up all the resources of the planet and leave the "have-nots" to suffer the consequences. This is the ultimate expression of arrogance and amorality.

[Pdub]

Illuminati want my mind, soul, and my body.

As long as they have Alison Brie on their roster I'm as good as taken.

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I'm in!

[tp4tissue]

I consider myself a practical realist. Identify problems and solve them.

What are the most important problems facing the world today?
In my opinion: (1) pollution/climate change, (2) income inequality, (3) war.

These 3 are often tied together and all are exacerbated by exponentially increasing population, almost exclusively in the already-poorest, least advanced, and most-stressed areas of the world.

Those who defend the status quo are often the enemy to me, particularly in any area having to do with the accumulation and hoarding of financial resources. Those who advocate real progressive solutions (eg climate accords, Affordable Health Care, etc) to real immediate problems are the good guys.

Although I have always hated the Roman Catholic Church, I find Pope Francis's encyclical to be one of the most awesome and inspiring pieces that I have read in a long time. Just ignore the part about "The Hebrew God" and everything else is dead on. Any of you who have not read it (it's only 80 pages long) should do so.

Our economic valuation system is the main problem.  It does not at a basic level dispense equal pay for equal work.

It motivates by the creation of Debt, which is the same as to say, it controls by FEAR..

Modern social sciences has already proven that Fear is a poor motivator in the first world.


The reason Fear used-to-work,  is because we were so poor way back when, that the majority was subsisting anyway, so it wasn't really any different than the natural survival pressures..


But, as we've become Fat and Fed,  psychology changes greatly, and we are now adverse to any form of labor, because the GOAL has become unclear..


Our minds are designed for survival,  but what exactly are we working for, and what are we fighting against.. There are no visible natural predators or unsolvable early deaths.




The asteroid that falls on all of us is too distant in the future for the basic-today-man to be worried about..

Thus leading to this chain of lethargy in thought..


So, essentially modern society has been frozen in place ever since the fulfillment of basic needs.


What we really need is a proper shift in ideology away from man controlled capitalism.. and towards computer controlled capitalism.

[tp4tissue]

My political ideology is thus:

Anti-Asteroid.Co

Stop what you're doing,  Think about what you're doing, is any of it worth anything if an Asteroid hits earth 20 years before your natural demise..

How does what you're doing fit in with our Anti-Asteroid Defense program. [NASA Space Guard]



We should teach kids about asteroids very early, so they "get it".. 

Life good,  Asteroid BAD..

[fohat.digs]

This is a particularly good one:

[fohat.digs]

It's about f_cking time:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/jeb-bush-suspends-2016-campaign/2016/02/20/d3a7315a-d721-11e5-be55-2cc3c1e4b76b_story.html

And we used to think that Junior was the family idiot.

[tigersharkdude]

Be excellentto each other

[LXXXIX]

this is asking for trouble

+1

[xtrafrood]

Illuminati want my mind, soul, and my body.

As long as they have Alison Brie on their roster I'm as good as taken.

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For real?  :p - I guess I'm on of those independents.

[iri]

Common sense.

Though I'm not sure that it exists in politics.

[chyros]

In my country, I'm a centre-wing liberal. In UK or US terms, that's pretty much off-the-chart left-wing fundamentalism.

[27]

I guess I'm pretty left-leaning for Canada, but I do hold a lot of conservative values at the same time.  It's pretty hard to dedicate yourself to one party/classification nowadays anyways.

[fohat.digs]

that's pretty much off-the-chart left-wing fundamentalism.

Despite the deafening noise coming from the right, we did elect Barak Obama twice in a row.

[chyros]

that's pretty much off-the-chart left-wing fundamentalism.

Despite the deafening noise coming from the right, we did elect Barak Obama twice in a row.

The most left-wing the US Democrats have ever been is still more right-wing than even the most right-wing extremist parties back home have ever been. Barack Obama would be textbook unelectable and probably denounced as an extremist douchebag. We're genuinely not even in your political spectrum .

[HoffmanMyster]

I'm a "**** you for asking" kind of guy.  Keep your nose on each issue and not in the business of people who aren't at your meetings, rallies, or other political gatherings.

Illuminati want my mind, soul, and my body.

As long as they have Alison Brie on their roster I'm as good as taken.

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+1

* HoffmanMyster swoons on Binge

Ask me about a specific issue and I'll give an opinion (for whatever that's worth), but I don't see the point in categorizing such a complex discussion.

[vivalarevolución]

I stray away from ideologies and labels.  They can restrict your thinking to the point that you are not willing to consider different options or actual facts and arguments that help you learn something new.  Each issue should be addressed separately, without an overriding ideology overriding your thinking.

That said, I would call myself a humanist and tree hugger that believes government should be as small as possible but provide the necessary functions for modern civilization, such as public works and infrastructure, a social safety net, education, public safety, protect basic human rights from groups and organizations including the government itself, a system of airing grievances against the government, and ecological land management from an interconnected systems perspective.  Actually applying these ideas is way more difficult than actually writing about it.

However, I am not opposed to public-private partnerships, because I work in government and understand first hand how complete government management can become a slow moving, bureaucratic mess.  Of course, that opens the door for massive corruption.

There are many things government should NOT do, which includes moralizing, imposing religion on people, and acting as the master or nanny state.  Government must be the servant of the people, not the master.  Even if human beings are unreasonable, the largess of government should not be telling us how to live our lives.

[iri]

government should be as small as possible

I hope you aren't moving to France.

[fohat.digs]

government should be as small as possible

That quaint Luddite concept pretty much evaporated with Marconi's radio.

There needs to be a single planetary government because the human race cannot afford perpetual fragmentation.

[xtrafrood]

government should be as small as possible

That quaint Luddite concept pretty much evaporated with Marconi's radio.

There needs to be a single planetary government because the human race cannot afford perpetual fragmentation.

Call me crazy, but that idea makes me very anxious. I blame Firefly.

[Waateva]

government should be as small as possible

That quaint Luddite concept pretty much evaporated with Marconi's radio.

There needs to be a single planetary government because the human race cannot afford perpetual fragmentation.

Call me crazy, but that idea makes me very anxious. I blame Firefly.

What about the idea of hundreds of smaller governments bickering for years while much bigger issues like climate change and our species' survival are basically ignored?  Because that makes me anxious.

[demik]

what we need to do is create a topre kingdom, we will all be happy. and we will enslave the mx users

[alexjd99]

what we need to do is create a topre kingdom, we will all be happy. and we will enslave the mx users

Can we get blackjack and hookers?

[Waateva]

what we need to do is create a topre kingdom, we will all be happy. and we will enslave the mx users

Can we get blackjack and hookers?

Only for the MX slaves, sorry

[alexjd99]

what we need to do is create a topre kingdom, we will all be happy. and we will enslave the mx users

Can we get blackjack and hookers?

Only for the MX slaves, sorry

Why do **** people get all the fun stuff

[Waateva]

what we need to do is create a topre kingdom, we will all be happy. and we will enslave the mx users

Can we get blackjack and hookers?

Only for the MX slaves, sorry

Why do **** people get all the fun stuff

Because we're your ****ing slaves, we gotta have something to keep us going

[alexjd99]

what we need to do is create a topre kingdom, we will all be happy. and we will enslave the mx users

Can we get blackjack and hookers?

Only for the MX slaves, sorry

Why do **** people get all the fun stuff

Because we're your ****ing slaves, we gotta have something to keep us going

This topre kingdom doesn't sound as nice as I thought it would.
I want my blackjack and hookers dammit

[xtrafrood]

government should be as small as possible

That quaint Luddite concept pretty much evaporated with Marconi's radio.

There needs to be a single planetary government because the human race cannot afford perpetual fragmentation.

Call me crazy, but that idea makes me very anxious. I blame Firefly.

What about the idea of hundreds of smaller governments bickering for years while much bigger issues like climate change and our species' survival are basically ignored?  Because that makes me anxious.

I agree that the climate change issue has been swept under the rug for far too long. How would the global government form in the first place? I seriously doubt 7.3 billion people would all agree on a global authority.

[Waateva]

government should be as small as possible

That quaint Luddite concept pretty much evaporated with Marconi's radio.

There needs to be a single planetary government because the human race cannot afford perpetual fragmentation.

Call me crazy, but that idea makes me very anxious. I blame Firefly.

What about the idea of hundreds of smaller governments bickering for years while much bigger issues like climate change and our species' survival are basically ignored?  Because that makes me anxious.

I agree that the climate change issue has been swept under the rug for far too long. How would the global government form in the first place? I seriously doubt 7.3 billion people would all agree on a global authority.

Of course not, so the machines forming it would just wipe out 95% of the humans that disagreed with it.  See, problem solved!

[xtrafrood]

government should be as small as possible

That quaint Luddite concept pretty much evaporated with Marconi's radio.

There needs to be a single planetary government because the human race cannot afford perpetual fragmentation.

Call me crazy, but that idea makes me very anxious. I blame Firefly.

What about the idea of hundreds of smaller governments bickering for years while much bigger issues like climate change and our species' survival are basically ignored?  Because that makes me anxious.

I agree that the climate change issue has been swept under the rug for far too long. How would the global government form in the first place? I seriously doubt 7.3 billion people would all agree on a global authority.

Of course not, so the machines forming it would just wipe out 95% of the humans that disagreed with it.  See, problem solved!

Soylent Milk Is Love! Soylent Milk Is Life! Say NO To Dry Cereal!

[appleonama]

why can't we all just get along

I look up to Enrique Peña Nieto the most corrupt ass in the world.

[FLFisherman]

government should be as small as possible

That quaint Luddite concept pretty much evaporated with Marconi's radio.

There needs to be a single planetary government because the human race cannot afford perpetual fragmentation.

Call me crazy, but that idea makes me very anxious. I blame Firefly.

What about the idea of hundreds of smaller governments bickering for years while much bigger issues like climate change and our species' survival are basically ignored?  Because that makes me anxious.

I agree that the climate change issue has been swept under the rug for far too long. How would the global government form in the first place? I seriously doubt 7.3 billion people would all agree on a global authority.

Of course not, so the machines forming it would just wipe out 95% of the humans that disagreed with it.  See, problem solved!

Soylent Milk Is Love! Soylent Milk Is Life! Say NO To Dry Cereal!

[demik]

what we need to do is create a topre kingdom, we will all be happy. and we will enslave the mx users

Can we get blackjack and hookers?

Only for the MX slaves, sorry

Why do **** people get all the fun stuff

he means they'll be the blackjack dealers and the hookers

[xtrafrood]

government should be as small as possible

That quaint Luddite concept pretty much evaporated with Marconi's radio.

There needs to be a single planetary government because the human race cannot afford perpetual fragmentation.

Call me crazy, but that idea makes me very anxious. I blame Firefly.

What about the idea of hundreds of smaller governments bickering for years while much bigger issues like climate change and our species' survival are basically ignored?  Because that makes me anxious.

I agree that the climate change issue has been swept under the rug for far too long. How would the global government form in the first place? I seriously doubt 7.3 billion people would all agree on a global authority.

Of course not, so the machines forming it would just wipe out 95% of the humans that disagreed with it.  See, problem solved!

Soylent Milk Is Love! Soylent Milk Is Life! Say NO To Dry Cereal!

[fohat.digs]

How would the global government form in the first place?

The Founding Fathers wrestled with that idea and cobbled together a ridiculous solution including a bicameral legislature and Electoral Congress that has limped along mostly successfully for quite a while. The biggest stumbling block was the demands of the small states for parity with the large ones, partially accommodated with the Senate and the Ratification process. We got lucky that it has held together over time.

To accomplish it again, worldwide, would be all but impossible if tiny countries, orders of magnitude smaller than the leaders, were given any sort of disproportionate power.

But even today, some of the largest powers, the "Permanent Members of the Security Council" have rendered the United Nations hopelessly dysfunctional with their veto power. That would have to be eliminated before the UN could be much more than a joke.

[azhdar]

Global governement cannot work, european union is a great example that it cannot work.

[fohat.digs]

Global governement cannot work,

Except that it has to work.

Where do you see the human race in 100 years or 1000 years? Considering the course that we are on?

Everything must evolve, and every aspect of modern society has been evolving at a much faster rate than politics (and its evil twin, religion), which seems stuck in a late-Imperial-Age transition without being able to move on.

[azhdar]

Global governement cannot work,

Except that it has to work.

Where do you see the human race is 100 years or 1000 years?

I'd be honestly surprised we can last 1000 more years on this planet considering how we are destroying it, and how we are constantly for stupid/lobby reasons.

We're going toward gloval government anyway, but european union will soon see countries leaving it (uk, France being the most likely to do so).
Also when you watch how UN and various of those multinations org don't work, you don't want glob gov.

[Waateva]

Global governement cannot work,

Except that it has to work.

Where do you see the human race is 100 years or 1000 years?

I'd be honestly surprised we can last 1000 more years on this planet considering how we are destroying it, and how we are constantly for stupid/lobby reasons.

We're going toward gloval government anyway, but european union will soon see countries leaving it (uk, France being the most likely to do so).
Also when you watch how UN and various of those multinations org don't work, you don't want glob gov.

Well, there are hundreds of examples of smaller localized governments not working as well so what should we do?

[azhdar]

Global governement cannot work,

Except that it has to work.

Where do you see the human race is 100 years or 1000 years?

I'd be honestly surprised we can last 1000 more years on this planet considering how we are destroying it, and how we are constantly for stupid/lobby reasons.

We're going toward gloval government anyway, but european union will soon see countries leaving it (uk, France being the most likely to do so).
Also when you watch how UN and various of those multinations org don't work, you don't want glob gov.

Well, there are hundreds of examples of smaller localized governments not working as well so what should we do?

That is correct too.
I wish I had the answers.
Getting rid of politicians sure shouldn't hurt that much.

[Waateva]

Global governement cannot work,

Except that it has to work.

Where do you see the human race is 100 years or 1000 years?

I'd be honestly surprised we can last 1000 more years on this planet considering how we are destroying it, and how we are constantly for stupid/lobby reasons.

We're going toward gloval government anyway, but european union will soon see countries leaving it (uk, France being the most likely to do so).
Also when you watch how UN and various of those multinations org don't work, you don't want glob gov.

Well, there are hundreds of examples of smaller localized governments not working as well so what should we do?

That is correct too.
I wish I had the answers.
Getting rid of politicians sure shouldn't hurt that much.

But then who has to do the icky political jobs then?

[azhdar]

Global governement cannot work,

Except that it has to work.

Where do you see the human race is 100 years or 1000 years?

I'd be honestly surprised we can last 1000 more years on this planet considering how we are destroying it, and how we are constantly for stupid/lobby reasons.

We're going toward gloval government anyway, but european union will soon see countries leaving it (uk, France being the most likely to do so).
Also when you watch how UN and various of those multinations org don't work, you don't want glob gov.

Well, there are hundreds of examples of smaller localized governments not working as well so what should we do?

That is correct too.
I wish I had the answers.
Getting rid of politicians sure shouldn't hurt that much.

But then who has to do the icky political jobs then?

People qualified in the field they work in. Old judge in justice, stuff like this.
Nowadays we have those politic-working people, that spend their whole time getting elected and looking/speaking nice on medias.

And in France most of them have multiple mandates (mayor + deputee + ... ), no wonder they can't get **** done right. Well there are other reasons about the not getting **** done...

[chyros]

The problem is that politicians are good at getting elected, but nothing else. Which means the people who know least about the things they govern, govern. It's a flawed system, unfortunately.

The issue is massively exacerbated in countries with no upper limit of campaign spending or air time. Ideally, all candidates should get an equal, small amount of air time and a very limited election budget. The more their policies and qualifications do the talking the better, and the more they do the talking, the worse.

[jacobolus]

The problem is that politicians are good at getting elected, but nothing else.

That’s not a fair generalization. There are many politicians who are also very, very sharp policy analysts.

The job of a legislator or regional administrator is to synthesize input from a diverse group of people with contradictory interests, and try to make sure that nobody gets too mad. This is basically impossible, so they do the best they can.

Expensive elections with unlimited corporate campaign contributions definitely complicate the job though.

[fohat.digs]

Expensive elections with unlimited corporate campaign contributions definitely complicate the job though.

This, of course, promotes "show biz actors" (look at how people still gaze dreamily when they hear about the abominable Reagan who tripled the deficit while raising taxes over a dozen times) but the real problem is that voters here operate on their emotions rather than their minds!