Funny enough the 960 does support it, however.
Dafuq nvidia
Also, GTX 1060 announced yesterday. Supposedly performance equal to 980, for $250.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10474/nvidia-announces-geforce-gtx-1060-july-19
Yes 960 is a go..
I'm am considering between the rx480 and 1080 right now..
But need 490 to finally decide..
Between those two IMNSVHO the 1080 is obviously the stronger card, but price-to-performance very clearly favours the 480. For the price of a 1080 right now you could buy three 480s, and I'm pretty sure a single 1080 can't beat three-way Crossfire on the 480s — except in power efficiency, of course.
http://www.benchmark.pl/ranking/porownanie/amd-radeon-rx-480-vs-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-founders-editionWydajność w grach = Performance in games.
Judging by what I see here, the 490 would have to a different-generation processor in order to make a huge difference. Even 1070 beats 480 handily. However, 1070 is twice cheaper than 1080 but certainly not nearly twice slower.
I think UserBenchmark kinda sums it up nicely (vs 390x but anyway, 72% faster and >100% more expensive).
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-vs-AMD-R9-390X/3603vs3497The 1060 will probably still be able to beat the 480 to both performance and performance-per-dollar, though, as well as performance-per-Watt. However, forget SLI, at least with Founder's Edition. Not sure vendors will be able to implement SLI/bridge if nVidia explicitly chose to not support it on its own cards. But if they find a way (they might have enough pull), then, if 1060 draws even less power than 960, SLI could be a nice upgrade path too. Obviously not from the get-go, but anyway.
Whats the point in comparing the differences between a $200 card and a $700 card?
any benchmarks are going to clearly be on one sided...
Whats the need to say Nvidia > AMD in a thread about the 1080?
We're talking about the performance differences between Mercedes vs KIA here people.
Stop trying to justify your crazy spends by trashing something irrelevant. XD
Price to performance RATIO..
And certain features which I think are relevant to the future.
If we are already considering price-to-performance, IMO we can't stop at ongoing performance & static purchase price. It makes more sense to consider ongoing price vs ongoing performance. The 480 isn't horrible about power draw, but the 1060 is quite likely to end up having some advantage, making it the cheaper card even if it costs a bit more to buy.
i am merely acknowledging that AMD needs to step up it's game if it has any hopes of maintaining itself as nvidia's only competition
Defo. Ideally, that'd be something ground-breaking, a paradigm shift. Something like vertically stacked memory. Or cheap, low-power, high-performance multi-core GPU (not that unlikely considering their plans for a 32-core CPU).
the fact that the 1060 is projected to outperform the rx480 using less power and being only $20-$50 more doesn't look good for AMD
At a minimum it will beg for a meaningful response, yeah, but AMD will have two ways of dealing with the problem: 1) just cut prices vs nVidia (been done before), 2) leverage CF capability of 480 vs no SLI on 1060 (at least the founder's edition explicitly is going to not support SLI).
What works in favour of AMD here is that CF boards are cheaper to certify than SLI boards.
However, people who build their new computers around the 1060 may decide to buy cheaper non-SLI mobos, saving them even up to $30 on the lack of SLI support alone, judging from what I've just seen when choosing a mobo for me this month. Giving up on SLI automatically means you don't need full ATX mobo or chassis, especially given how cheap DDR4 is now for a nice two-stick set, and normal Z170 doesn't support quad-channel anyway, so two banks instead of four isn't going to be a problem. And that means a cheap-ass B150 mini-ATX mobo from a better-than-no-name manufacturer at around $50 will cover it for many people. Smaller power draw on the card will make cheaper mobos safer. And cheap PSUs all the more viable.
For example: B150 mini ATX mobo + low-TDP locked PCU + just 2 sticks of (possibly cheap-ass non-XMP) memory + HDD/SSD + 1060 = any random noname PSU included with the chassis will do.
Thus, nVidia may still get to win the cheapo market. Paradoxically, cutting SLI from 1060 may help it achieve this purpose simply through getting people to think along the money-saving lines I set out above.
nvidia is proving they can capture the enthusiast and mainstream markets, where as AMD is focusing at mainstream and failing IMO
I tend to agree. I have a lot of respect and sentiment for AMD for modelling their price-wise mid-end –80 cards on the high end rather than the low end. That's old-school, and it shows respect for the game and customer, versus nVidia apparently trying to pull off a gimmick with some of those 128-bit flimsy-built high-performers. However, powerful architectures are not conducive to either affordable production costs or affordable ownership costs, which makes nVidia win the cheap segment too, I guess.
I wonder why nVidia isn't playing the low-voltage card more strongly in its marketing, especially given the low-voltage mentality of the European Union, which is a huge, unified market. (Perhaps legislative trends have little resonance in gaming, little wonder.)
