Gan 356 X vs Gts3-M

[tp4tissue]

Just received cubes.  Gts3-M / Gan 356 X (ipg v 5)



Gan X

The GanX has much nicer looking plastic+molding. it is after all $60 vs $30 Gts3

Gts3, looks kind of cheepy, the plastic surface has divets. The GanX is very uniform and flat.








Internally. 



The axis system in the GanX will produce more reliable/even spring tension.

The metal axis arms are precision cut at the ends to within 0.05mm based on casual-measurements w/ Mitutoyo digical.

The Gts3m uses very rough cut screws + a height setter. The disadvantage here is the height setter is plastic, and because there are no reference flat surfaces underneath center squares, you're setting a concave surface, mainly based on feel.  It's not a precision system.



THAT SAID, while Tp4 is 100% n00ber,  Tp4 highly doubts the slight variation in the even-ness of spring tension will make a difference to an advanced cuber. Watching their fast cube-movements, speed cubing seems very tolerant of variable force application.

STILL,   it is what it is, the GanX axis system is clearly designed with setting even-spring-tension in mind. That is not to say the Gts3 system was NOT, but there is a clear difference in the lvl of polish on a (repeatability) component here. is it a $30 difference, NO, it is not.

With the Gts3m system, someone with a mechanical background can get within 0.5mm - 1.5mm tolerance. This requires someone with very-good mechanical assembly experience and hand-feel.


The variable quick set spring tension teeth on the Gts3 is slightly more convenient than the GanX. However, adjusting spring tension is not something anyone needs to do often, so the time-saving/ benefit is negligible.

And To-Be-Clear, it will be harder to achieve even-ness on the Gts3, because setting the reference height is imprecise, the convenient click-notches of the setter can not remedy this BASE-Inaccuracy. (Does it matter, ehh....).


Will Update once get m0ar feels.

[tp4tissue]

Havn' lots'o fun ..

Lube is everywhere atm...  This is alot messier than anticipated..

[tp4tissue]

much cathartic..

All dem' serial killerz pr0lly could quit killzn' if they had one of these instead.

[tp4tissue]

The magnets.

They're pretty similar, Not sure why reviewers say the Gts3 has stronger magnets.

There is a difference in the position of the magnets. the Gan mags nearer the core, whereas the Gts3 mags nearer edges.

Important to note that stronger is not better. One can easily glue in monster-magnets but it increases the static friction required to spin the layers.

The goal of the magnet is mainly to prevent overshoot. that balanced against spring tension/friction/ Finger-Fatigue


ease

[Sintpinty]

Can’t even solve a rubiks cube and never will.

[tp4tissue]

Can’t even solve a rubiks cube and never will.

It's high up among the checklist items for Street-Creds as a Geek.

Inspirational video vvv

[tp4tissue]

Figured out why peeps are Perceiving that the Gts3 has stronger magnets vs GanX. (it does not).

The GanX is more fricative. This leads to less effective swipes. The cause is the larger surface area in contact between layers, the Gts3 just has less plastic-plastic contact.

With a speed-lube, the GanX should be as fast as the Gts3.

Outta the box, the Gts3 position locks more easily. It absolutely needs greasn' though, because the springs are exceptionally loud.  Loads-of-Ping

[tp4tissue]

This is a wakeup call.. Tp4 am so behind.. for beginners, they say

[noisyturtle]

Havn' lots'o fun ..

Lube is everywhere atm...  This is alot messier than anticipated..

[tp4tissue]

Havn' lots'o fun ..

Lube is everywhere atm...  This is alot messier than anticipated..

Whateves NT is thinking..  Tp4 only has SFW-fun..

SFW Fun = Best Fun

[tp4tissue]

Hrrrm.. having trouble deciding which cube is better..

Gts3 is uglier, but smoother.

GanX is prettier, but more expensive, and not as smooth.

[tp4tissue]

Don't feel any m0ar-smart yet..

so many algorithms to memorize.

[tp4tissue]

Hrrm.. Pretty sure it's Not-addicting...

But whenever stress lvls rise even a little. Tp4 reaches for the cube.

[fanpeople]

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[tp4tissue]

Cubes = Best Fun

[fanpeople]

Cubes = Best Fun

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Fanpeeps stressing Tp4 ..

Tp4 reaches for cube.

[fanpeople]

Fanpeeps stressing Tp4 ..

Tp4 reaches for cube.

stop touching your cubes in front on my boi.

[tp4tissue]

Fanpeeps stressing Tp4 ..

Tp4 reaches for cube.

stop touching your cubes in front on my boi.

[tp4tissue]

OK, so ,  the Gan is like the Topre, and Gts is like cherry.   

Cherry design is much more mechanically elegant,, whereas the Topre has worse internals, but better exterior fit and finish,  And it costs twice as much, Gan $60, Gts $30..

As a keeboarder, Tp4 am thinking, why not both.. yea... it's not arm and a leg situation with cubes,  but one would never recommend the Gan @ $60 , just as one shouldn't ever recommend anyone go Topre @ $200, even if they're not overall bad products. 

[funderburker]

OK, so ,  the Gan is like the Topre, and Gts is like cherry.   

Cherry design is much more mechanically elegant,, whereas the Topre has worse internals, but better exterior fit and finish,  And it costs twice as much, Gan $60, Gts $30..

As a keeboarder, Tp4 am thinking, why not both.. yea... it's not arm and a leg situation with cubes,  but one would never recommend the Gan @ $60 , just as one shouldn't ever recommend anyone go Topre @ $200, even if they're not overall bad products. 

I'm sorry I mentioned Gan 356X. About to buy GTS3M myself.

Also what's your time, mate? If you own Android phone then I can recommend an app called "Twisty Timer". Looks great, gives you scramble steps and some statistics.

[tp4tissue]

I'm sorry I mentioned Gan 356X. About to buy GTS3M myself.

Also what's your time, mate? If you own Android phone then I can recommend an app called "Twisty Timer". Looks great, gives you scramble steps and some statistics.

don' wry bout it fbukr, prolly would've bought both on my own anyway, for variety.

Using the beginner method, My PB is 1m 20s

Currently Tp4 only knows the 6 diff perms

what cube are you using now ?

[funderburker]

don' wry bout it fbukr, prolly would've bought both on my own anyway, for variety.

Using the beginner method, My PB is 1m 20s

Currently Tp4 only knows the 6 diff perms

what cube are you using now ?

You're a quick learner! My best is 46.36s but I average around 57s usually. Haven't cubed a lot lately though. Also using beginners method but I wanted to get consistent <1min times and then start learning other algs.

I'm actually using a "****ty" one which I got in a book store. Qiyi Sail 6.0. So now that I've improved it's time for something a bit better.
 

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OK, so ,  the Gan is like the Topre, and Gts is like cherry.   

Cherry design is much more mechanically elegant,, whereas the Topre has worse internals, but better exterior fit and finish,  And it costs twice as much, Gan $60, Gts $30..

As a keeboarder, Tp4 am thinking, why not both.. yea... it's not arm and a leg situation with cubes,  but one would never recommend the Gan @ $60 , just as one shouldn't ever recommend anyone go Topre @ $200, even if they're not overall bad products. 

Surprisingly accurate  )

[tp4tissue]

You're a quick learner! My best is 46.36s but I average around 57s usually. Haven't cubed a lot lately though. Also using beginners method but I wanted to get consistent <1min times and then start learning other algs.

I'm actually using a "****ty" one which I got in a book store. Qiyi Sail 6.0. So now that I've improved it's time for something a bit better.

TP4 haz a neural-net processor; a learning computer. The more contact he has with humans, the more he learns.

There is a big gap between 1m20 and sub 1 imho..   I've decided to go color agnostic as I learn from the beginning so I don't have to deal with it later, my improvements will be slowed by this .

Gts 3 will be a big step up.  I'm actually looking at also getting the gts3 WR,  i'm thinking maybe reviewers are wrong about the magnets on that cube as well ?  hrrrm..

GTS 3 overall internally , It's incredibly well designed..   For example, if you squish the GanX between the palms of your hand and Twist, it becomes tight and fricative.   But you do the same thing on the Gts,  no matter how hard you push, the layers feel smooth and slippery..  Definitely Black magic...

[tp4tissue]

Gan comes pre-lubed.  Gts 3 comes Bone-Dry,  it greatly benefits from lube. This is probably the better configuration to be sold dry, because anyone buying $30 cubes would probably lube.

Tested a bunch of different Lubez...

Silicone gel

Mineral oil

Silicone Spray, (be careful, works on nylon runners (piece-stems),  WILL EAT ABS, cover abs parts while spraying)

All purpose lube (lithium graphite)

White lithium.


I believe the silicone gel to be best, it has much more staying power.

The oil works well too, However, these cubes are full of holes, and even a little oil can make the cube feel _greasy_, it runs.

All purpose viscosity is too high.

Lithium works ok, but it has a smell.

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[funderburker]

There is a big gap between 1m20 and sub 1 imho..   I've decided to go color agnostic as I learn from the beginning so I don't have to deal with it later, my improvements will be slowed by this .

Gts 3 will be a big step up.  I'm actually looking at also getting the gts3 WR,  i'm thinking maybe reviewers are wrong about the magnets on that cube as well ?  hrrrm..
 

Mmm, I'm not color agnostic but that's something I need to learn also. Talking about GTS3 WR - I have watched a lot of reviews about both and it amazes me too that WR vs. GTS3 would be so different in terms on magnets if MoYo even mentions WR is the same cube w/o ridges.

Gan comes pre-lubed.  Gts 3 comes Bone-Dry,  it greatly benefits from lube. This is probably the better configuration to be sold dry, because anyone buying $30 cubes would probably lube.

Tested a bunch of different Lubez...

Silicone gel

Mineral oil

Silicone Spray, (be careful, works on nylon runners (piece-stems),  WILL EAT ABS, cover abs parts while spraying)

All purpose lube (lithium graphite)

White lithium.


I believe the silicone gel to be best, it has much more staying power.

The oil works well too, However, these cubes are full of holes, and even a little oil can make the cube feel _greasy_, it runs.

All purpose viscosity is too high.

Lithium works ok, but it has a smell.

Thank you for the research. I was planning to get some silicone gel. Which spots did you lube and what silicon gel is it?

[tp4tissue]

I was planning to get some silicone gel. Which spots did you lube and what silicon gel is it?

Tp4 is using the honda shin silicone that's for cars.  a little dab will do ya.

Preference will probably change over time, because turning styles will evolve through progression.

Lubed the nylon stems and metal parts with silicone gel.

The abs color portion I put 3 drops of oil on a napkin and lightly rubbed the inner faces.

Prior to this I just put the oil on the parts, and that leaked all over, it was like solving a piece of Popeyes fried chicken.

[tp4tissue]

cubing makes Tp body temp really hot.. Got the ceiling fan goin'

Clearly high cpu use.


Overall.. the process of memorizing 119 different algorithms is alot'o fun..

Hrrm, suppose that's memory controller i/o, kekeke

[tp4tissue]

My right lower eyelid is twitching..

Possibly overused brain ??

Only had the cube for 4 days.  Played at most ~3 hrs per day.

[tp4tissue]

Just found out there isn't 119 algorithms,  it's actually 245.. ??

Hrrrrrrrm.....

[tp4tissue]

2 many rooms, not enough cubes..

Got 1 to 2 tvs in every room..

Now I will probably need at least 1 cube per room.. Unless I start walking around with a cube at all times.