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WD externals > Seagate externals [HDD for Summer]
« on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 20:56:11 »
All the WD models have these nice holes on the sides. And the drive is top mounted, so there's alot of space beneath it for cooling ~ 1/2 inch.

One can stack 3 of these and get airflow through all of um' with just a single 120mm fan.

Most of the Seagate models of late are either closed or have very little venting. Even the thicker models have only a small clearing under the drive.




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Re: WD externals > Seagate externals [HDD for Summer]
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 21 August 2019, 12:38:40 »
At work we had ordered an external Seagate 2TB drive for a client to use for Time Machine backups on their Mac.

It was the second Seagate drive they had, and it only lasted a month and then died.

I then quoted them a WD, cuz I know it will be so much better. I have 3x 10 year old WD enterprise level drives in my second server and they're still chugging along. the 4th drive is a newer WD Black, but even that I bought used and hasn't given me any trouble.

Synopsis: I will only ever buy WD drives, unless I need to replace drives in my main server, which are SAS drives (idk the brand, but for a 2TB replacement it's only $50 and I haven't had any of them fail since I initially bought the server).
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Re: WD externals > Seagate externals [HDD for Summer]
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 21 August 2019, 17:27:00 »
I have had excellent luck with several Seagates over the years.
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Re: WD externals > Seagate externals [HDD for Summer]
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 00:02:22 »
Why does everyone say helium drives run cooler.   seems to test the same.

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Re: WD externals > Seagate externals [HDD for Summer]
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 01:11:11 »
Basing reliability on older drives is a fools errand, every batch and model is different and you won't know it's good or bad until it's long off store shelves.
Yes, the first 2 and 3tb Seagates were fragile, but before that WD were often considered that way. IBM used to make drives that were thought to be rock solid before they all failed so bad the company sold off the whole HD division to Hitachi to avoid a bunch of lawsuits. Those same drives are now considered pretty good. SSD are no different, people swore by OCZ, that is until they disregard the flash memory suppliers recommendations and overclocked the chips. That debacle was so bad they entire company was sold off.

I will say one thing though, I have a 4TB WD external, it seems fine, but it is NOT a Sata drive. If you ever decide to remove it from the box and place it inside a laptop or raid it will not work. WD built a custom pcb, it has the usb built in and no sata port. The big externals use a normal sata drive, however the usb to sata adapter in it will only work with a WD drive. Seagates all tend to be normal drives inside so you can remove them and use them wherever, same with the adapters.

Best advice, use an ssd. If you need to use a spinner, keep an eye on it, they all suck.



Personally, I've seen so many failed WD drives I won't touch them unless they are a special purpose model (Raptor, Black, Red, etc.) or I just need it in a hurry. I all but refuse to buy Blue. I know people who are the exact opposite for the exact same reason, only buying specialized Seagate but perfectly happy with a normal WD. We each think each other is crazy.

Oh, and don't go by Backblaze drive stats, I wish they wouldn't bother posting them as they have no bearing at all on typical desktop use.
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Re: WD externals > Seagate externals [HDD for Summer]
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 25 August 2019, 22:29:45 »
I've also had a lot less failures on WD drives than Seagate (or a few other manufacturers, including Quantum and IBM).

That includes internal drives, external desktop drives (like tp4 has), and "portable" drives (2.5" USB-powered).

Although I do have a collection of decades old Seagate SCSI drives that don't seem to want to expire.
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Re: WD externals > Seagate externals [HDD for Summer]
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 10:24:28 »
I don't think I've had a desktop HDD fail since maybe 2001 or 2002. I have no idea what brand those were. I just remember the family computer's losing everything a couple times.

I had an external Maxtor drive that fell off the top of the tower onto the carpet the first time I tried to use it and it never worked because of that. Same with a laptop HDD that had fallen (I assume).


I have a couple Seagates now, but I had ignored them for years because of an impression of unreliability, whose origin I do not know, I had of them. (Hey, I still think Firestone tires explode every time I hear about them, and that controversy was, what, 20 years ago?). I've always preferred WD drives for no logical reason, but I have a mix of Hitachi, WD, and Seagate now that I use without preference.

I have had some file corruption on some very old files (a couple 15+ year old pictures here and there), but I'm not sure if that's an issue with the drive or just entropy (or my caveman-style backup methodology).
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