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Offline Luciqueii

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I really need help, please.
« on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 13:53:43 »
So I made my first build. Went well until when I realized that when I type and push space to type new word it puts another letter in the end like if my words ends with a it puts z, if it ends with a s it ads extra c in the end (Only happening  to the 2last rows with letters when I use space. ) here is a video and on my reddit >>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9jyu6d/my_first_build_ang_i_got_problem_when_i_type_it/

and my stabs for spacebar are fcked thanks to the weird shape you can see here in imgur link and what is going on... the wire is not straight and hits the plate. https://imgur.com/a/6GpXhqQ

I also added pics of the back of the pcb if I did something wrong while soldering.

Please help me... I have ordered straight wire for the space key.

Thanks for your time and efforts! :)


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Re: I really need help, please.
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 15:24:02 »
What you're describing sounds like a short in the switch matrix, strange there are two but we'll start by assuming this is the problem.

The pics aren't great but quite of few of the LED solder blobs are pulled towards the diodes so I'd start by checking them for shorts.  The square pads in the [   ] markers are close to the LEDs too, not even sure what they're for but could be a short there too.
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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 15:31:36 »
What you're describing sounds like a short in the switch matrix, strange there are two but we'll start by assuming this is the problem.

The pics aren't great but quite of few of the LED solder blobs are pulled towards the diodes so I'd start by checking them for shorts.  The square pads in the [   ] markers are close to the LEDs too, not even sure what they're for but could be a short there too.

What is the switch matrix what can I do to solve the problem?

I don't get the second part with diodes I am new and would explanations and guidance.

Thanks :)

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Re: I really need help, please.
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 15:34:09 »
with the wire removed, does it still input the extra characters ?

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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 15:38:12 »
The switch matrix is just the name of the 'wires' on the board connecting the switches into rows and columns.  On the GH60 the diodes are on the columns.

The diodes are the little chips labelled D then a number, if the solder pads for these are linked by a bit of stray solder to the LED pads strange things can happen.  The rows should be OK as they are connected on the switch pins which aren't near any other components.
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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 15:49:34 »
with the wire removed, does it still input the extra characters ?

Then I have to disolder the board take out the space stabs and solder  then try again wich I will do when I got my new straight wires stabs :)

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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 15:52:11 »
with the wire removed, does it still input the extra characters ?

Then I have to disolder the board take out the space stabs and solder  then try again wich I will do when I got my new straight wires stabs :)

There are som flux on the this D squares not any solder parts from LED holes going there what I can see. :/

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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 16:09:49 »
The switch matrix is just the name of the 'wires' on the board connecting the switches into rows and columns.  On the GH60 the diodes are on the columns.

The diodes are the little chips labelled D then a number, if the solder pads for these are linked by a bit of stray solder to the LED pads strange things can happen.  The rows should be OK as they are connected on the switch pins which aren't near any other components.


There is no solder on those parts and this images shows wich area thi issue happens to... I can send HD pciture of the back of the pcb if it can be any help. Thanks.
https://i.imgur.com/JQcpxzg.png

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Re: I really need help, please.
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 16:24:32 »
with the wire removed, does it still input the extra characters ?

Then I have to disolder the board take out the space stabs and solder  then try again wich I will do when I got my new straight wires stabs :)


Slip a piece of paper in there between the pcb and the wire, see if it's still doing that..

if not, then you've got a solder blob somewhere else.

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« Reply #9 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 16:32:31 »
with the wire removed, does it still input the extra characters ?

Then I have to disolder the board take out the space stabs and solder  then try again wich I will do when I got my new straight wires stabs :)


Slip a piece of paper in there between the pcb and the wire, see if it's still doing that..

if not, then you've got a solder blob somewhere else.



Still does it.


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« Reply #11 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 16:38:02 »
still does it


The wire may not be causing it then..

Can you please check bcs I dont see a thing... bcs I dont understand what to really look for. https://imgur.com/a/aEymLGn

Please take time and look would be really glad :)


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Re: I really need help, please.
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 16:43:55 »
Does Z and X switches themselves work independently with no errors.

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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 16:46:09 »
Yes it does I can type like this " zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx" without any problem this issue appears only when I use the space bar to write a new thing or anytime i press space bar and press another letter in this area... https://i.imgur.com/JQcpxzg.png

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 16:49:44 »
what happens when you press space and a key in those area..

is it always  space zx 

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« Reply #15 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 16:51:30 »
what happens when you press space and a key in those area..

is it always  space zx 



if  i press s and space i get " s z" if I press x i get " xd " if I press c i get "cf " etc... like zigzag

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« Reply #16 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 16:57:49 »
what happens when you press space and a key in those area..

is it always  space zx 



if  i press s and space i get " s z" if I press x i get " xd " if I press c i get "cf " etc... like zigzag

i think something went wrong during the flash..

flash it again on a different computer.

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« Reply #17 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 19:28:33 »
what happens when you press space and a key in those area..

is it always  space zx 



if  i press s and space i get " s z" if I press x i get " xd " if I press c i get "cf " etc... like zigzag

i think something went wrong during the flash..

flash it again on a different computer.



I have tried to flash but it works I can change the layouts of keys If i want but keyboard even works when I reset and dont flash... so I am not sure what keys to press to reset beside the keys I have set for reset ( fn key + enter )


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