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Offline mattbox

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #500 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 21:01:39 »
i hope another round of these can be done! i was silly not to order one when I had the chance :(

Same here, hopefully there will be a second round with a possible v2.0 of the board.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #501 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 21:10:19 »
i hope another round of these can be done! i was silly not to order one when I had the chance :(

Same here, hopefully there will be a second round with a possible v2.0 of the board.

Actually, since you missed the post 2-3 replies before you, there have already been two rounds, and a third one is in IC phase here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74524.0

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #502 on: Sun, 06 September 2015, 22:12:26 »
Anyone have firmware to match KBP V60's layout? If so, it would save me a lot of time  :))

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #503 on: Mon, 07 September 2015, 00:19:25 »
Anyone have firmware to match KBP V60's layout? If so, it would save me a lot of time  :))

modifying tmk layouts is pretty simple, just  follow the directions on the github :) post if you have any specific questions, im sure people will be glad to help you out!
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #504 on: Wed, 09 September 2015, 23:29:15 »
On the KBP, you're able to press Alt+Enter to enable arrow keys on the Shift, ctrl, win, func keys. Are you able to make the TMK firmware do the same thing?

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #505 on: Wed, 09 September 2015, 23:45:43 »
yes, i think it is possible.

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Use ACTION_LAYER_MODS(1, MOD_LALT) for the Alt key to 'change to layer1'  with keeping modifier function(Alt).
Then on layer1 define Enter key as 'toggle layer2'. And on layer2 you can define the cursor keys.

This is Poker X like keymap for GH60, in this keymap you can toggle cursor keys with Fn+Space. I think you can refer it as a start point.
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/keyboard/gh60/keymap_poker.c

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #506 on: Thu, 10 September 2015, 07:41:10 »
On the KBP, you're able to press Alt+Enter to enable arrow keys on the Shift, ctrl, win, func keys. Are you able to make the TMK firmware do the same thing?
It's possible but there is no LED on the TMK PCB so you can't tell if the the arrow key layer is activated. One solution is to use dual role keys like this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41685.0. I now like dual role more than the KBP design.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #507 on: Thu, 10 September 2015, 11:57:30 »
Anyone have firmware to match KBP V60's layout? If so, it would save me a lot of time  :))

I found this intro to TMK to be very helpful:

http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/how-to-build-your-very-own-keyboard-firmware-t7177.html

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #508 on: Thu, 24 September 2015, 18:20:58 »
BlueNalgene's GB starts now.
You can get my assembled Alps 60% PCB with plate and switches from the GB.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75491.0

This GB is organized in US and the itmes are shipped from there, this will makes shipping cost lower for paticipants in the country. Shipping cost seems to be not decided, though.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #509 on: Sun, 18 October 2015, 16:51:51 »
Just wanted to post this here to say thanks to hasu for this awesome PCB and a super fun project. 


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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #510 on: Sun, 18 October 2015, 17:20:16 »
Just wanted to post this here to say thanks to hasu for this awesome PCB and a super fun project. 

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European Portuguese layout (slightly modified), nice. :D

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #511 on: Tue, 27 October 2015, 21:22:03 »
As for Firmware Build on Windows:
People have had some problems of building firmware on Windows. People on Windows tend to use WinAVR and this is definitely a cause.

Problems are:
1) WinAVR may not work on newer Windows like Win8 and Win10.
2) Alps64 PCB has ATmega32u2 as controller but WinAVR doesn't support it.

You have to update some files of WinAVR to compile it on those OS's.
http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/tmk-keyboard-firmware-collection-t4478-180.html#p260436

WinAVR is very handy all-in-one package but too old. I reccomend to move to newer toolchain like Atmel's GCC and Cygwin(MinGW) for other command line tools.
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/doc/build.md


I'll setup keymap editor for Alps64 PCB later, so if you are frustrated much at these things you can just wait for the editor. With the editor you can make your keymap easily with mouse, it will be useful enough unless you want complex keymap. Not that you sitll have to compile firmware yourself to use full features of TMK.
This is editor for HHKB, for example.
http://www.tmk-kbd.com/tmk_keyboard/editor/hhkb/index.html


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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #515 on: Sun, 08 November 2015, 21:36:48 »
This is great! Should make it a lot easier to play around with new layouts. Can't wait to try this out!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #517 on: Wed, 11 November 2015, 15:37:57 »
So awesome for the folks who don't want to program their layout. Awesome sauce Hasu!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #518 on: Sun, 06 December 2015, 22:59:31 »
I'd part with four PCBs out of leftover PCBs for BlueNalgene's GB.
It costs $37 for PCB and $10 for shippping, $47USD in total.

PM me if you like to grab one.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #519 on: Fri, 11 December 2015, 10:41:35 »
Sent a PM Hasu, I'd love to buy 2 from you.  :)

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #520 on: Fri, 11 December 2015, 12:50:01 »
any chance to have a 2nd round?
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #521 on: Fri, 11 December 2015, 19:12:43 »
Currently no leftover I can part with.

I'll have to keep rest of leftover to backup failure and incident on BlueNalgene's GB for some months.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #522 on: Fri, 18 December 2015, 18:54:00 »
I took my keyboard apart today and find something on the edge of the PCB. It seems like some coating is peeling off a little. Should I worry about this?
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #523 on: Fri, 18 December 2015, 19:50:45 »
I took my keyboard apart today and find something on the edge of the PCB. It seems like some coating is peeling off a little. Should I worry about this?
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Solder mask is originally a liquid that is applied to the PCB and then let to cure. It looks like droplets formed at the bottom of the PCB, nothing to be worried about.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #524 on: Fri, 18 December 2015, 19:53:41 »
I also don't think it is critical damage but not sure what happens.
Screwed down too tight? or I think your case is KBP V60, so the PCB does not perfectly fit inside?

I took my keyboard apart today and find something on the edge of the PCB. It seems like some coating is peeling off a little. Should I worry about this?
(Attachment Link)


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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #525 on: Fri, 18 December 2015, 21:12:37 »
I also don't think it is critical damage but not sure what happens.
Screwed down too tight? or I think your case is KBP V60, so the PCB does not perfectly fit inside?
Do you mean this could be a damage caused by the case? I don't see exactly how the case can cause this damage but I also don't remember seeing this the last time I took apart my keyboard.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #526 on: Sun, 20 December 2015, 17:23:24 »
An update on case compatibility. I tried putting my TMK Alps64 with V60 plate in my friend's Pok3r metal case. Other than being a little loose (V60 plate is slightly smaller than Poker), I don't see any other problems.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #527 on: Thu, 31 December 2015, 09:42:50 »
Program Controller
To enter program mode hook up to USB port and push button on bottom of PCB.

Could more information regarding the keymapping be added to the OP? For example:

How exactly do you program the 2nd layer, you push the botton on the PCB, then what?

What is the default layer toggle key?

What are default key mappings for arrow keys, etc.?

Thanks!
« Last Edit: Thu, 31 December 2015, 10:02:10 by digi »

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #528 on: Thu, 31 December 2015, 09:53:15 »
The firmware is well documented on the github repository: https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #529 on: Thu, 31 December 2015, 10:03:03 »
Hmm, is there one for 60% ANSI? This is ISO:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69740.msg1927747#msg1927747

How do you upload the keymap firmware to the controller?
« Last Edit: Thu, 31 December 2015, 11:39:13 by digi »

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #530 on: Thu, 31 December 2015, 12:48:05 »
Hmm, is there one for 60% ANSI? This is ISO:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69740.msg1927747#msg1927747

How do you upload the keymap firmware to the controller?

Ignore the keys your board does not have.

Download DFU Flip programmer from ATMEL.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #531 on: Thu, 31 December 2015, 13:14:49 »
Hmm, is there one for 60% ANSI? This is ISO:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69740.msg1927747#msg1927747

How do you upload the keymap firmware to the controller?

Ignore the keys your board does not have.

Download DFU Flip programmer from ATMEL.

Got it working! Thanks A-C!

Here is my keymap.hex - http://bit.ly/1PzN6BW

For anyone else about to make their own keymap.hex file and flash their firmware, make sure you select "ATmega32U2" under Device Selection in ATMel FLIP. Works perfectly.
« Last Edit: Thu, 31 December 2015, 14:02:09 by digi »

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #532 on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 19:57:44 »
I'm trying to help out another user but currently do not have one of the PCBs, which key is the designated FLIP button to put it into flash mode or is that not required for these PCBs?
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #533 on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 20:08:08 »
Thanks for your help to the user.
Say hello to him/her for me :D

From first post in this thread. I'll add more detailed assembly guide later.
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Program Controller
To enter program mode hook up to USB port and push button on bottom of PCB.
« Last Edit: Sun, 03 January 2016, 20:22:44 by hasu »

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #534 on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 20:28:05 »
That user would be me! I was able to put the keyboard into programming mode, but FLIP is giving me the error "AtLibUsbDfu.dll not found." I have selected the ATmega32U2 device (originally we thought maybe it was ATmega32U4, but I get the same error there as well.)

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #535 on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 20:35:41 »
That user would be me! I was able to put the keyboard into programming mode, but FLIP is giving me the error "AtLibUsbDfu.dll not found." I have selected the ATmega32U2 device (originally we thought maybe it was ATmega32U4, but I get the same error there as well.)

You probably have wrong driver on the device(ATmega32U2), remove current driver and re-install one FLIP provides from DeviceManager of WIndows. This can happen often when you turns the controller into program(flash/bootloader) mode before installing FLIP.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #536 on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 21:02:04 »
I plugged the keyboard in, then installed FLIP, then after the program was installed I put the keyboard into programming mode.

Device manager shows the device but shows the error "The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28) There are no compatible drivers for this device."

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #537 on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 21:11:21 »
I plugged the keyboard in, then installed FLIP, then after the program was installed I put the keyboard into programming mode.

Device manager shows the device but shows the error "The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28) There are no compatible drivers for this device."

Then, you can install correct driver?

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #538 on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 21:15:48 »
I plugged the keyboard in, then installed FLIP, then after the program was installed I put the keyboard into programming mode.

Device manager shows the device but shows the error "The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28) There are no compatible drivers for this device."

This might help: http://imgur.com/a/bnwzy

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #539 on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 21:19:37 »
Thanks hasu, a-c, and Steezus, I got it set up. Now to figure out what buttons to program where. Cheers!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #540 on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 21:24:14 »
I plugged the keyboard in, then installed FLIP, then after the program was installed I put the keyboard into programming mode.

Device manager shows the device but shows the error "The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28) There are no compatible drivers for this device."

This might help: http://imgur.com/a/bnwzy

Ah yeah didn't even see that but that is what I ended up telling him to do a-c, thanks for posting that to make it easier on others experiencing the same problem.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #541 on: Mon, 04 January 2016, 10:36:41 »
Updated 'Assembly' and added 'Check your PCB' and 'Troubleshoot' seciton in first post.
Please check these before start soldering.

Thanks for the pics, a-c.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #542 on: Mon, 11 January 2016, 16:46:43 »
Please someone confirms me does this pcb fits the FMJ case? Thank you

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #543 on: Wed, 13 January 2016, 11:57:28 »
Please someone confirms me does this pcb fits the FMJ case? Thank you

It's standard Poker. I believe nickheller had his in a FMJ case and it fit.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #544 on: Wed, 13 January 2016, 12:04:47 »
Please someone confirms me does this pcb fits the FMJ case? Thank you

It's standard Poker. I believe nickheller had his in a FMJ case and it fit.
Yeah it fit fine, not sure if you mean diodes or something on pcb would be in the way. I never screwed it down cause I do not have screws yet though. I will get some in and let you know. Here is a pic, not screwed in though.

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps
« Reply #545 on: Fri, 15 January 2016, 18:04:57 »
How would I make RAlt be a dual role key with Esc? Can that be added to the tmk-editor?
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps
« Reply #546 on: Fri, 15 January 2016, 21:30:00 »
Currently you cannot edit Fn actions on keymapeditor.

But codes is available(how generous tmk is!) and you can edit around here to change actions.
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/gh-pages/editor/alps64/firmware.js#L67-L112
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/gh-pages/editor/common/keymap_editor.js#L535-L570

EDIT: I was just joking if it was not clear. don't look into these keymapeditor code unless you have plenty time to kill. It is not so organized as always, not whothwhile to hack. You better build firmware from soruce, instead.
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps
« Reply #547 on: Sun, 31 January 2016, 15:58:27 »
Yo, anyone have any of these they are willing to part with? I've been out of the keyboard game for a while and I'm sad to see I never got in on any of these. Or is there perhaps another round in the works?

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps
« Reply #548 on: Sun, 31 January 2016, 18:42:51 »
I still have a few leftover from last GB, PM me.

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps
« Reply #549 on: Sun, 31 January 2016, 18:44:02 »
PM incoming.
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