iMav is doing the right thing.

[tp4tissue]

You youngsters.. hahahaha.

Geekhack is worth more than 15k based on established user and viewership alone.

These are facts..


Zeal's purchase for $15k only makes sense if there is a necessity to keep Gekha Strictly Non-monetized, non Ad centric.


Those two reasons are precisely why Gekha is so thin on resources to begin with.



Gekha technical maintenance is currently done for free by a circle of keeb-loving admins.

This is only because the site produces no money.  If it ever did make bank, the admins/mods would not work for free.


Since we can't easily GROW the # of free admins / mods,  Gekha has a limited maximum size.

And it has mostly reached that size under the capacity of iMav's abilities.



For Gekha to even continue,  it must be sold, it must be monetized, and the bigger the network it's sold to the stronger the possibilities.

Working with Free and Passionate admins//mods is great at the People lvl, but since they're not paid, they don't have to keep to a schedule or have responsibilities to report to management.

We all h8 managers, sure, but that hatred is the backbone of focus and actual goals.

Goals: Grow Geekhack.
Question: With What Money ??
Question: How to establish accountability ??



Now, you come back to say, well the core users/ old admins/mods are getting nothing out of this.

Heck, That seems to be the case, it doesn't have to end as is, they could be hired as consultants and folded within the new framework.

But even if the entire lineup is changed, it is also well within the typical when sites such as this change hands..




There's really nothing to complain about,

It's fundamentally a Wait and See situation..


Ya'll get some watermelon and chillax..

//Turn on the Ceiling fan.

[dgneo]

why am i not surprised to see this post

[tp4tissue]

why am i not surprised to see this post

Because Tp4 is the Light, the Reason, and the Truth




iMav is a human being, he's got 3 mortgages, he's probably got mini-iMavs, a fat wife, all the chains of modern societal participation..

it makes no-sense for him to sell for less..

As I've said, the current admins/ mods should become consultants in the new framework if Gekha is sold to a bigger network..

But, whether that happens ,  it would still be illogical to sell Gekha for less than its worth.

[clasicks]

Please give more money to iMav to unlock this post

[captain]

WTF are y'all carrying on about?  Is iMav selling geekhack?  That'll be a sad day.

[dgneo]

WTF are y'all carrying on about?  Is iMav selling geekhack?  That'll be a sad day.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96404.0

[tp4tissue]

Please give more money to iMav to unlock this post

Tp4 is watching Columbia vs England right now..

If it weren't for the Wanda/Hisense/Adidas/Cocacola/Visa billboards the Sport would never be so high quality.


Anti capitalism / Anti commercialism is unwarranted, it has its short-comings, but it is the best we've got AT THE MOMENT for management and focus of human efforts..


There is Monetized Management,  and there's Money-Grubbing..


We don't know what the future holds..  Let's hope for the best.. We're all Geekhackers and we wish it to succeed..

[clasicks]

Please give more money to iMav to unlock this post

[dgneo]

and there's Money-Grubbing..

You mean like coming to an agreement on a payment amount, then backing out to take more money because you're a scummy **** named iMav?


Because that's exactly what he did.

[DanielT]

You youngsters.. hahahaha.

Geekhack is worth more than 15k based on established user and viewership alone.

These are facts..


Zeal's purchase for $15k only makes sense if there is a necessity to keep Gekha Strictly Non-monetized, non Ad centric.


Those two reasons are precisely why Gekha is so thin on resources to begin with.



Gekha technical maintenance is currently done for free by a circle of keeb-loving admins.

This is only because the site produces no money.  If it ever did make bank, the admins/mods would not work for free.


Since we can't easily GROW the # of free admins / mods,  Gekha has a limited maximum size.

And it has mostly reached that size under the capacity of iMav's abilities.



For Gekha to even continue,  it must be sold, it must be monetized, and the bigger the network it's sold to the stronger the possibilities.

Working with Free and Passionate admins//mods is great at the People lvl, but since they're not paid, they don't have to keep to a schedule or have responsibilities to report to management.

We all h8 managers, sure, but that hatred is backbone of focus and actual goals.

Goals: Grow Geekhack.
Question: With What Money ??
Question: How to establish accountability ??



Now, you come back to say, well the core users/ old admins/mods are getting nothing out of this.

Heck, That seems to be the case, it doesn't have to end as is, they could be hired as consultants and folded within the new framework.

But even if the entire lineup is changed, it is also well within the typical when sites such as this change hands..




There's really nothing to complain about,

It's fundamentally a Wait and See situation..


Ya'll get some watermelon and chillax..

//Turn on the Ceiling fan.


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Dude, if I were iMav I would take the money too, won’t go into details why. It’s his right to do it, everybody contributed knowing this is a private platform. My only issue is, I want my personal data deleted, not my public posts (mostly worthless for current standards) but private conversations and personal information. Why? Because it’s my right to ask that and because I have joined under certain conditions and now the new owner might be just someone who saw a cheap opportunity to buy a huge personal data database... even 100K is cheap for what this info is worth ....

[Remsky]

I would easily sell tp4 in a hertbeat for one dollar instead of 10k. I wouldnt need to start a bidding war, I would just dump his ass to the first offer.

[JianYang]

WTF are y'all carrying on about?  Is iMav selling geekhack?  That'll be a sad day.

What kind of a captain are you?

[tp4tissue]

TP: he started at 10k. He said 15k would take it. 15k was offered, he refused. More was offered. still no. Hes selling to the highest bidder. He is selling your bull**** green posts.

why are you defending this ****?

Tp4 am not defending iMav's unpleasant business conduct..


Tp4 am defending iMav's right to do it..  iMav as a basic human being..


Tp4 am Explaining the "needs" of the site for growth

Tp4 am imparting a sense of calm so other Gekha users can relax and watch Gekha unfold.



It could very well go terribad.. But it makes no sense to be angry.. Let's just calmly wait and see..

If things go well, we participate,  if not, we leave..

But the Transition to bigger wallet / war chest  MUST HAPPEN..

[shadowrealmwarez]

and there's Money-Grubbing..

You mean like coming to an agreement on a payment amount, then backing out to take more money because you're a scummy **** named iMav?


Because that's exactly what he did.

All about money, hopefully he posts photo's of his new, cool car he buys with the money.

[KatzenKinder]

TP: he started at 10k. He said 15k would take it. 15k was offered, he refused. More was offered. still no. Hes selling to the highest bidder. He is selling your bull**** green posts.

why are you defending this ****?

Tp4 am not defending iMav's unpleasant business conduct..


Tp4 am defending iMav's right to do it..  iMav as a basic human being..


Tp4 am Explaining the "needs" of the site for growth

Tp4 am imparting a sense of calm so other Gekha users can relax and watch Gekha unfold.



It could very well go terribad.. But it makes no sense to be angry.. Let's just calmly wait and see..

If things go well, we participate,  if not, we leave..

But the Transition to bigger wallet / war chest  MUST HAPPEN..

lol tp you do literally anything but impart people with a sense of calm

[phorx]

Or maybe the buyer sees everyone pledging to leave GH, so they bail on this hole deal...

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Please give more money to iMav to unlock this post

[HPE1000]

The whole community leaves when the site is sold to anyone other than an established member like Zeal. That is the facts. The site is worthless without the community behind it LOL

[tp4tissue]

The whole community leaves when the site is sold to anyone other than an established member like Zeal. That is the facts. The site is worthless without the community behind it LOL

I'm not sure why ya'll are so anti-establishment all of a sudden..

If this site starts on micro-transactions..  Yea sure.. everyone, we're going to deskthority..

But we don't know if that'll happen yet..

I get ya'll are concerned our new overlords are Evil,  but it's not a certainty, and if anything quite unlikely.


Whoever spends the money to buy this site,  they're not out to destroy it..


There is no large indication that we're being handed over to EAGames

[shadowrealmwarez]

The whole community leaves when the site is sold to anyone other than an established member like Zeal. That is the facts. The site is worthless without the community behind it LOL

I'm not sure why ya'll are so anti-establishment all of a sudden..

If this site starts on micro-transactions..  Yea sure.. everyone, we're going to deskthority..

But we don't know if that'll happen yet..

I get ya'll are concerned our new overlords are Evil,  but it's not a certainty, and if anything quite unlikely.


Whoever spends the money to buy this site,  they're not out to destroy it..


There is no large indication that we're being handed over to EAGames

Yes, but plenty of money can be made mining the sites data, logging user habits, etc.

[Coreda]

If this site starts on micro-transactions..  Yea sure.. everyone, we're going to deskthority..

I'm not so sure they'd put up with your style of threads 

I need my geekhacky, tp fix from time to time.

[zekkin]

The whole community leaves when the site is sold to anyone other than an established member like Zeal. That is the facts. The site is worthless without the community behind it LOL

There is no large indication that we're being handed over to EAGames

No, we're being handed over to something much worse. EA and their subsidiaries are able to be held responsible for illegal actions in various courts of law. China does not give any ****s about laws outside of their country.

Personal data will be mined and sold to whoever wants to buy it. That's just how China works.

[dgneo]

There is no large indication that we're being handed over to EAGames

Worse.

[dimo]

I don't think the problem is specifically with how the site will LOOK or function differently-- but the amount of personal info passed in PM's over the past several years is gigantic. And any attempt to make the site look better will be a disaster as this site is bad to the core.


I think ideally we go to a new site and this is a good opportunity as ever for Amnesia to partner with the others that were interested and make something of the situation.


The fact that GH has been losing popularity in the past two years when the community as a whole has been growing rapidly in the past several years is a clear sign that the site scares off new members and is halting community growth

[tp4tissue]

There is no large indication that we're being handed over to EAGames

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Worse.

At worst, we'll get a few kaihl switches banners..   I don't know what sort of Nefarious keyboard things ya'll are imagining..


As for datamining..  that is the only legitimate concern if you guys have been PMing bank accounts to each other..

[chuckdee]

^ #iMavDidNothingWrong

[clik_clak]

Both GH and DT are antiquated pieces of garbage. Probably most of the reason there’s no innovation in keybaords. The innovation matches the medium from which the ideas come.

What we really need is a new location to spread ideas than these sites that are stuck in an ancient time.

[HPE1000]

Both GH and DT are antiquated pieces of garbage. Probably most of the reason there’s no innovation in keybaords. The innovation matches the medium from which the ideas come.

What we really need is a new location to spread ideas than these sites that are stuck in an ancient time.

LOL

[hineybush]

Both GH and DT are antiquated pieces of garbage. Probably most of the reason there’s no innovation in keybaords. The innovation matches the medium from which the ideas come.

What we really need is a new location to spread ideas than these sites that are stuck in an ancient time.

Not really, what sort of innovation do you want? Maybe if we move to the cloud we can have some levitating keyboards

[tp4tissue]

^ #iMavDidNothingWrong

Guys, Yea.. it can Still go wrong..

My point is,   Nothing's gone wrong YET..  and it's Not very Likely.. !!



Relax

If it goes bad..  we go to deskthority..  it's that simple.. 

[Jacob4341]

I agree with you TP! At the end of the day money is money and iMav needs it.

[dimo]

https://imgur.com/a/czAerUw

Geekhack has been dying in the past few years when the community as a whole has been growing rapidly recently.

Change is dire

[Coreda]

My point is,   Nothing's gone wrong YET..  and it's Not very Likely.. !!

I do wonder how they intend to monetize the site, given geeks typically use ad blockers, and they've paid a sizable-ish sum for it. Some believe it may be for datamining but not sure what potential there is in that anyway given people transact off-site afaik, and outside of some potentially private info PMs what's left is public or in the possession of those running GBs, etc.

*thinkingemoji*

Edit: also interesting seeing all these new users comment on this as if they've been around here for years lmao.

[dimo]

My point is,   Nothing's gone wrong YET..  and it's Not very Likely.. !!

I do wonder how they intend to monetize the site, given geeks typically use ad blockers, and they've paid a sizable-ish sum for it. Not sure what datamining potential there is anyway given people transact off-site anyway afaik, and outside of some potentially private info PMs what's left is public or in the possession of those running GBs, etc.

*thinkingemoji*

huge warning that people have to turn off ad-block to use the site? There's probably more options and that might be a huge turn off too

[kawasaki161]

The big problem would be if the new legal owner is in China. Then they'll have to implement all their stupid laws and censor a lot (like my profile pic, or this post because I'll now mention the tiananmen square massacre and John Oliver). Don't forget that YT integration will die and everyone who uses gmail needs to switch to a different email provider for their geekhack account, oh yea and it's a legal requirement to submit a phone number too.

[shadowrealmwarez]

My point is,   Nothing's gone wrong YET..  and it's Not very Likely.. !!

I do wonder how they intend to monetize the site, given geeks typically use ad blockers, and they've paid a sizable-ish sum for it. Not sure what datamining potential there is anyway given people transact off-site anyway afaik, and outside of some potentially private info PMs what's left is public or in the possession of those running GBs, etc.

*thinkingemoji*

huge warning that people have to turn off ad-block to use the site? There's probably more options and that might be a huge turn off too

I expect this as well, or having ads from unblockable sources such as from geekhack itself. Or full page redirects when trying to access a GB or IC thread, or they force makers, GB runners and such to pay a premium.

[dgneo]

Edit: also interesting seeing all these new users comment on this as if they've been around here for years lmao.

100% this

[hwood34]

Both GH and DT are antiquated pieces of garbage. Probably most of the reason there’s no innovation in keybaords. The innovation matches the medium from which the ideas come.

What we really need is a new location to spread ideas than these sites that are stuck in an ancient time.

ok lol. head back to reddit then

[shadowrealmwarez]

The big problem would be if the new legal owner is in China. Then they'll have to implement all their stupid laws and censor a lot (like my profile pic, or this post because I'll now mention the tiananmen square massacre and John Oliver). Don't forget that YT integration will die and everyone who uses gmail needs to switch to a different email provider for their geekhack account, oh yea and it's a legal requirement to submit a phone number too.

I happen to love that Xi resembles Winnie The Pooh

[Coreda]

huge warning that people have to turn off ad-block to use the site? There's probably more options and that might be a huge turn off too

Realistically I wonder how many users do disable them when presented with such messages, especially as it seems quite a number already seem against a buy-out (may matter less over time though with an influx of new users).

Two large forums I know have ads but it's pure chance whether they're riddled with malware or browser hijacks since the quality of the ads is so low and (presumably) they haven't found anything better. One of the forums offers a monthly/yearly subscription to disable the ads from the site itself though they offer no other user perks which I think they could re-consider tbh.

[hwood34]

huge warning that people have to turn off ad-block to use the site? There's probably more options and that might be a huge turn off too

Realistically I wonder how many users do disable them when presented with such messages, especially as it seems quite a number already seem against a buy-out (may matter less over time though with an influx of new users).

I only disable ads if it literally forces me to, or it's a site I really care about and understand that ads are the one way to monetize it. So yeah, if GH implements non-intrusive ads I'd disable my blocker, as I'm sure most would

[shadowrealmwarez]

huge warning that people have to turn off ad-block to use the site? There's probably more options and that might be a huge turn off too

Realistically I wonder how many users do disable them when presented with such messages, especially as it seems quite a number already seem against a buy-out (may matter less over time though with an influx of new users).

Two large forums I know have ads but it's pure chance whether they're riddled with malware or browser hijacks since the quality of the ads is so low and (presumably) they haven't found anything better. One of the forums offers a monthly/yearly subscription to disable the ads from the site itself though they offer no other user perks which I think they could re-consider tbh.

If I encounter a site that forces me to disable my ad blocker I never visit the site again, same for businesses who post "no weapons/firearms", they don't deserve my patronage.

[tp4tissue]

My point is,   Nothing's gone wrong YET..  and it's Not very Likely.. !!

I do wonder how they intend to monetize the site, given geeks typically use ad blockers, and they've paid a sizable-ish sum for it. Some believe it may be for datamining but not sure what potential there is in that anyway given people transact off-site afaik, and outside of some potentially private info PMs what's left is public or in the possession of those running GBs, etc.

*thinkingemoji*

Edit: also interesting seeing all these new users comment on this as if they've been around here for years lmao.

If it's purchased by a peripheral firm.. 100% it's going to be promotional posts/ community seed for products/ development polling.

We might get a few banners,  but that won't be the critical function..

Remember guys,  Our Mindshare is the prize.


For example, corsair buys geekhack,   Their goal is not to pester us with ads,   it's to silently embed corsair brand solutions to the things we talk about.

/Begin

Enough people on the forum says their lamp isn't bright enough..

Corsair creates an account, changes the numbers 87 posts, anime avatar.. etc.

This account posts a potential solution to a lamp, as designed by corsair..


Then corsair gauges interest and potential sales based on feedback, finally deciding to build the product or not.

[Coreda]

I only disable ads if it literally forces me to, or it's a site I really care about and understand that ads are the one way to monetize it. So yeah, if GH implements non-intrusive ads I'd disable my blocker, as I'm sure most would

One forum I visit runs ads for vendors within the site which bypasses uBlock Origin's blocking completely, though I don't mind since I'm a fan of that style of advertising. Perhaps they'll try something similar here, though with the relatively small scope of the community I'm not sure if that would be attractive to vendors.

[DanielT]

Both GH and DT are antiquated pieces of garbage. Probably most of the reason there’s no innovation in keybaords. The innovation matches the medium from which the ideas come.

What we really need is a new location to spread ideas than these sites that are stuck in an ancient time.

These so called pieces of garbage are the reason the western keyboard community exists. Without these 2 sites we wouldn’t have so many things, even reddit community was started by an ex member, an ass just like you.

[iamtootallforthis]

Both GH and DT are antiquated pieces of garbage. Probably most of the reason there’s no innovation in keybaords. The innovation matches the medium from which the ideas come.

What we really need is a new location to spread ideas than these sites that are stuck in an ancient time.

These so called pieces of garbage are the reason the western keyboard community exists. Without these 2 sites we wouldn’t have so many things, even reddit community was started by an ex member, an ass just like you.

Let's not engage the trolls please. Not worth the time or effort

[kawasaki161]

/Begin

Enough people on the forum says their lamp isn't bright enough..

Corsair creates an account, changes the numbers 87 posts, anime avatar.. etc.

This account posts a potential solution to a lamp, as designed by corsair..

Then corsair gauges interest and potential sales based on feedback, finally deciding to build the product or not.

Sounds good, let's get Corsair to make an RGB dragon dildo

[chuckdee]

huge warning that people have to turn off ad-block to use the site? There's probably more options and that might be a huge turn off too

Realistically I wonder how many users do disable them when presented with such messages, especially as it seems quite a number already seem against a buy-out (may matter less over time though with an influx of new users).

I only disable ads if it literally forces me to, or it's a site I really care about and understand that ads are the one way to monetize it. So yeah, if GH implements non-intrusive ads I'd disable my blocker, as I'm sure most would

I'm on the other side; I just view the content as not worth my time if ads is the only way that they can make money, unless it's a community that I'm connected to and I understand that they will not allow intrusive ads from intrusive networks.

[hwood34]

huge warning that people have to turn off ad-block to use the site? There's probably more options and that might be a huge turn off too

Realistically I wonder how many users do disable them when presented with such messages, especially as it seems quite a number already seem against a buy-out (may matter less over time though with an influx of new users).

I only disable ads if it literally forces me to, or it's a site I really care about and understand that ads are the one way to monetize it. So yeah, if GH implements non-intrusive ads I'd disable my blocker, as I'm sure most would

I'm on the other side; I just view the content as not worth my time if ads is the only way that they can make money, unless it's a community that I'm connected to and I understand that they will not allow intrusive ads from intrusive networks.

So I'm assuming you'd rather something like a membership? Cause I'd absolute have some **** on the sides I can mentally block out that to actually have to pay money directly

[Coreda]

For example, corsair buys geekhack,   Their goal is not to pester us with ads,   it's to silently embed corsair brand solutions to the things we talk about.

/Begin

Enough people on the forum says their lamp isn't bright enough..

Corsair creates an account, changes the numbers 87 posts, anime avatar.. etc.

This account posts a potential solution to a lamp, as designed by corsair..


Then corsair gauges interest and potential sales based on feedback, finally deciding to build the product or not.

I just wonder what will happen if whoever buys it doesn't find enough value in the site/community to continue hosting it/recoup the cost, as then it's back to square one, worse case scenario with a 'sunsetting' of the site for good. If it actually was used to gauge product feedback then I could see the utility with the kind of hacker-types here (are there any equivalent examples of this occurring with forums before though?) but we don't know the motivations of the unknown companies making the offers atm so I guess it's easy to speculate the best (and worst) case scenarios before anything begins changing.