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Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 12:15:36 »
Based on the specs.

It should be a VA-panel tv,  made by Hisense,  under the Sharp Aquos branding.

~4000:1 contrast
~300 nits brightness.

This should work as a pretty decent monitor. 

Not the biggest fan of android TV platform, buhh we'll see.

As far as can be gleaned it should have 20-point gamma control for calibration w/ decent precision.


That $300 one from Walmart couple days ago, basically no one got it, so not hoping for that.

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Tp4 will have the TV on Wednesday,   Soooo.. you guys can order it NOW,  and wait for TP4's review, if it's no good, just don' pick it up.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 12:53:13 »
On the hunt for 82 and 85 incher samsung panels.

Not huge fan of Sams, buhhhhh  bigger is better.  was hoping for them to dip this year nothing so far.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 13:01:00 »
I thought you were broke. Oh wait... broke for food and shelter, but not for electronics.
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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 13:57:24 »
I thought you were broke. Oh wait... broke for food and shelter, but not for electronics.

Going from maximum broke 2 under the bridge broke.

Also, $500 Tv is a conseqence of broke, when Ery1 else this year buying them LG C10 Oleds. for $3500

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 18:10:06 »
Why is anyone anywhere buying tv's? I don't understand the purpose of a huge monitor in this age.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 19:21:40 »
Why is anyone anywhere buying tv's? I don't understand the purpose of a huge monitor in this age.


Well, even if one was to buy a monitor,  it would be at least ~200 $ for a 2560x1440  32 incher.   A 4K 70 Inch is 4x 35"  1920x1080.  That's a  way way better deal.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 19:27:27 »
I haven't turned on my tv in probably 2 years. Just a waste of space imo, the entire living room as a concept is a waste of space.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 19:38:33 »
I haven't turned on my tv in probably 2 years. Just a waste of space imo, the entire living room as a concept is a waste of space.

Throw a desk down in the middle of that living room, it's now a 'puter room.

Don't let convention define you NT.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 19:47:47 »
I haven't turned on my tv in probably 2 years. Just a waste of space imo, the entire living room as a concept is a waste of space.

Throw a desk down in the middle of that living room, it's now a 'puter room.

Don't let convention define you NT.


but the bed, fridge, toilet, and computer are already in the same room

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 02:01:56 »
I thought you were broke. Oh wait... broke for food and shelter, but not for electronics.

Going from maximum broke 2 under the bridge broke.

Also, $500 Tv is a conseqence of broke, when Ery1 else this year buying them LG C10 Oleds. for $3500

we do not have the same brokeness meter, i do not feel broke but i most definitely can't afford a 500$ TV, I can only afford a free crt TV (when talking TV). My whole computer setup fits into your TV/Monitor budget. As i said not that i am complaining, it is plenty enough for me, but either you stop over spending on random tech or stop saying that you are "maximum broke", a lot of peoples are in a much worse situation than you are
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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 08:05:37 »
I haven't turned on my tv in probably 2 years. Just a waste of space imo, the entire living room as a concept is a waste of space.

Throw a desk down in the middle of that living room, it's now a 'puter room.

Don't let convention define you NT.


but the bed, fridge, toilet, and computer are already in the same room

Ah the good ol bachelor apartment, what a disgusting concept.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 14:53:58 »
Ah the good ol bachelor apartment, what a disgusting concept.

Enhance w/ 98" Samsung, only $29,999.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 16:35:30 »
Based on the specs.

It should be a VA-panel tv,  made by Hisense,  under the Sharp Aquos branding.

~4000:1 contrast
~300 nits brightness.

This should work as a pretty decent monitor. 

Not the biggest fan of android TV platform, buhh we'll see.

As far as can be gleaned it should have 20-point gamma control for calibration w/ decent precision.


That $300 one from Walmart couple days ago, basically no one got it, so not hoping for that.

Returns valid until January.


Tp4 will have the TV on Wednesday,   Soooo.. you guys can order it NOW,  and wait for TP4's review, if it's no good, just don' pick it up.


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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 16:23:33 »
You gotta show us some photos of you in front of it, playing some nice game:)
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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 17:05:05 »
You gotta show us some photos of you in front of it, playing some nice game:)

Mainly boughz'dis for watching old 1080p blurays, because this is an SRGB gamut panel.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 03:45:07 »
You gotta show us some photos of you in front of it, playing some nice game:)

Mainly boughz'dis for watching old 1080p blurays, because this is an SRGB gamut panel.

That's ok, still photo is required:)
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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 15:55:59 »
Jus picked up from besby,  Not that big once you get it home.  testing commencing.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 16:03:45 »
Jus picked up from besby,  Not that big once you get it home.  testing commencing.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 18:18:43 »
Sigh...  soooooo.. some bad news guys..

They kinda lied on the specs page.

@ 6500k color temperature, the industry standard for movies/games/pc/consoles,  the Peak brightness is only 250nits. (spec quoted 300nits)

The Contrast spec is spot on 4300:1, I expect if I burn it in I can get 4500:1.   That's fine.

But it's a fairly dim TV.   

Color space is SRGB, no surprises. tone accuracy is decent, but there is no 11point gamma control, it has a cms but very rudimentary.

The panel quality is pretty good,  Very good drift characteristics and no extreme artifacts.

Ssssss...   Might go for the SONY X750H 65 incher instead for $600..   Lose 5 inches, gain 100 nits (340 nit panel) + wide gamut colors. 

Decisions decisions.   Not upset,  But Disappointed..   

You can check out this post's  Attached HTML file to see the Panel's preliminary PRE-burn measurements,
  The only thing I dialed in here is color temperature.


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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 03:29:13 »
Oooooh, I would return it. Dim screen like that is not ideal. I mean, I had monitors with low nits in the past and never liked it. TV, in a daylight might be even worse.
I guess if you go for 65" it won't be that big lose, 5" is not that much (are there any girls here?)

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 12:18:21 »
you aren't impressed by this panel, you need more ! return it. you should get the hisense h8g like i did and let me know what you think.

do you also feel like the tcl is easier to use than the hisense though? i loved the remote on the tcl tv and i like how it boots up super quick. roku was also great but i didn't like how you had to select the input every time, so hisense had an edge on that.
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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 12:50:12 »
you aren't impressed by this panel, you need more ! return it. you should get the hisense h8g like i did and let me know what you think.

do you also feel like the tcl is easier to use than the hisense though? i loved the remote on the tcl tv and i like how it boots up super quick. roku was also great but i didn't like how you had to select the input every time, so hisense had an edge on that.

Roku is the best platform, period.  They got it right in every way.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 13:35:01 »
After more experience playing with this android TV,  decided to Cancel the Sony ..   Android TV OS does not play nice with PC

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 14:15:32 »
from what i have seen at work from the android TVs in the meeting rooms once connected to a pc they just behave as a completely normal TV, android just being an "input" internal to the TV, i am curious on what were your issues
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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 14:23:32 »
from what i have seen at work from the android TVs in the meeting rooms once connected to a pc they just behave as a completely normal TV, android just being an "input" internal to the TV, i am curious on what were your issues

On Roku platform.  I can change brightness with 2 button clicks.  This is very useful for PC, because you need different brightnesses for different time of day, and SDR/HDR settings.

On android tv, there's 23 button presses between brightness settings.

Then there's PC support,  on roku platform it supports 10bit input in the 444 chroma mode.  On android tv, it does not.


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« Reply #25 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 14:52:06 »
from what i have seen at work from the android TVs in the meeting rooms once connected to a pc they just behave as a completely normal TV, android just being an "input" internal to the TV, i am curious on what were your issues

On Roku platform.  I can change brightness with 2 button clicks.  This is very useful for PC, because you need different brightnesses for different time of day, and SDR/HDR settings.

On android tv, there's 23 button presses between brightness settings.

Then there's PC support,  on roku platform it supports 10bit input in the 444 chroma mode.  On android tv, it does not.



ok we are not at the same level, the only thing we ask of those tv is to display graphs with just enough contrast so that we can see the differences between the bars, they could display green and red backward it would not matter, so yeah make sense now :)
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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 15:47:35 »
from what i have seen at work from the android TVs in the meeting rooms once connected to a pc they just behave as a completely normal TV, android just being an "input" internal to the TV, i am curious on what were your issues

On Roku platform.  I can change brightness with 2 button clicks.  This is very useful for PC, because you need different brightnesses for different time of day, and SDR/HDR settings.

On android tv, there's 23 button presses between brightness settings.

Then there's PC support,  on roku platform it supports 10bit input in the 444 chroma mode.  On android tv, it does not.



ok we are not at the same level, the only thing we ask of those tv is to display graphs with just enough contrast so that we can see the differences between the bars, they could display green and red backward it would not matter, so yeah make sense now :)

yeah the roku TV UI/UX is great. the small remote with the volume button on the side and all the little things just make sense. surprised that hisense has roku tv's but their high end tv's are android. still think that tp needs to get the hisense h8g though.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 16:00:34 »
yeah the roku TV UI/UX is great. the small remote with the volume button on the side and all the little things just make sense. surprised that hisense has roku tv's but their high end tv's are android. still think that tp needs to get the hisense h8g though.

This holiday we might see TCL 635 below $800,  it has 120hz in 25x14 , so that's a cool feature.

The 625 doesn't have 120hz, but still a good panel for movies.  If it can get to lower than $600 or $600, that's pretty fair, it was this price several months back already.

Hisense don't discount as much during the holidays, I would get an h8g if it gets to bout the same price.

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« Reply #28 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 16:54:42 »
yeah the roku TV UI/UX is great. the small remote with the volume button on the side and all the little things just make sense. surprised that hisense has roku tv's but their high end tv's are android. still think that tp needs to get the hisense h8g though.

This holiday we might see TCL 635 below $800,  it has 120hz in 25x14 , so that's a cool feature.

The 625 doesn't have 120hz, but still a good panel for movies.  If it can get to lower than $600 or $600, that's pretty fair, it was this price several months back already.

Hisense don't discount as much during the holidays, I would get an h8g if it gets to bout the same price.


I measured my sitting distance and I'm actually closer than I thought, about 5 feet right now, so I just went with the 50 inch h8g and it was less than $400. 635 is a strong choice because it's a roku tv, but apparently the h9g does 120hz 1440p too
but I didn't end up getting the h9g because I would ultimately be spending almost double for the marginal gains.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 17:07:24 »
I checked all my recent release PC games and none of them even have 4k in the options, does it just auto upscale for most games? I legit don't know how it works. Is 4k only for newer consoles?

Also doesn't running a game at 4k drastically affect the framerate? Its got to limit it to like 20 or 30 right? 60fps 4k is not yet possible?

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 17:18:43 »
I checked all my recent release PC games and none of them even have 4k in the options, does it just auto upscale for most games? I legit don't know how it works. Is 4k only for newer consoles?

Also doesn't running a game at 4k drastically affect the framerate? Its got to limit it to like 20 or 30 right? 60fps 4k is not yet possible?

you don't have to use 4k120hz, you can run it lower, it'll still look good.  But 120hz support can't be added to the monitor.

Most games support 4K. they might not show up unless it detects a 4K panel.  But you can use Nvidia super resolution feature in the driver to enable 4K rendering then downsampling, it's basically supersampling.

The latest 6800xt and 3080 will do 4k with playable framerates on most titles.

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 17:22:01 »
I measured my sitting distance and I'm actually closer than I thought, about 5 feet right now, so I just went with the 50 inch h8g and it was less than $400. 635 is a strong choice because it's a roku tv, but apparently the h9g does 120hz 1440p too but I didn't end up getting the h9g because I would ultimately be spending almost double for the marginal gains.

Either one would work for me.  or I guess i could wait a few months for them to come down. But as an American we have a duty to stimulate the economy

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 08:07:51 »
I was looking at the H6570G from Hisense for my mom since it is the best fit for where it will be mounted (without having to rewire and run the connections - if we did that I could go bigger).  Also it's priced perfectly for her budget ($320 right now, missed it at $287).

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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 09:02:40 »
I was looking at the H6570G from Hisense for my mom since it is the best fit for where it will be mounted (without having to rewire and run the connections - if we did that I could go bigger).  Also it's priced perfectly for her budget ($320 right now, missed it at $287).

Yea it's a good set. moms won't be disappointed.

hisense and tcl give you alot more for the money.  The big brand low ends have way less spec the price.

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 09:56:22 »
Yeah I've noticed that and after seeing their panels in retailers I have no problem using them for budget options, since you get a good panel considering their pricing (much like Vizio panels when they first started out).  I bought my Dad a 43" TCL 1080p panel since it was only $150 (this was 3+ years ago) and he wanted something to use as a digital billboard in his gallery to showcase his upcoming documentary, he eventually swiped it to use as his main tv in his bedroom lol. 

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 03 November 2020, 18:55:55 »
Pretty decent deal on Vizio Mseries Quantum @ walmart going on right now if anyone's looking.

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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 04 November 2020, 03:07:17 »
So how is that second tv you ordered?
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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 04 November 2020, 17:01:13 »
So how is that second tv you ordered?

Canceled, Decided not to purshue android platform after some intimacy with it..

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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 05 November 2020, 00:25:45 »
So how is that second tv you ordered?

Canceled, Decided not to purshue android platform after some intimacy with it..
i am not sure a tv is meant to go that far with TP, i am not sure you will ever find your perfect match at bestbuy :)
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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 05 November 2020, 03:03:21 »
So how is that second tv you ordered?

Canceled, Decided not to purshue android platform after some intimacy with it..

So you cancelled this one, returned the first one.
What's next, tp?
Common, you gotta buy a big one and show us gaming in 4k :)
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Re: Just ordered dat $500 70" tv from Besby
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 05 November 2020, 09:36:48 »
So how is that second tv you ordered?

Canceled, Decided not to purshue android platform after some intimacy with it..

So you cancelled this one, returned the first one.
What's next, tp?
Common, you gotta buy a big one and show us gaming in 4k :)

Ordered 2x of those walmart doorbuster onn 65" for monitors.

Still looking for a wide gamut unit.. but it may not materialize this BF.  There IS the Vizio quantum 65 @ costco, but I realllly don't like the vizio os. Might get it to try it out.