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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 08 November 2022, 19:45:19 »
god damn it,  Tp4 feels like he's getting sucked into it again,  compulsively reading amp modding, measurements, ripple, dc blocking,  wima,  /foams at mouth.

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 09 November 2022, 16:23:57 »
My PC is the source atm, I'm listening to FLAC through Plex (I rip all my albums and put 'em on there, so easy)
idk bluejuice,  Plex doesn't have enough audiophile street-cred...
Never mind the software, there's not even mention of a dedicated soundcard - audiophile club membership revoked :p
Haha - I didn't think a soundcard was necessary as the USB had ample power to get the signal to the DAC. :))

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 09 November 2022, 16:55:10 »
Someone should make an inexpensive set of reference equipment to test audiophile gear.

That way, we'll know if we're getting BSed.  As is, reading spec sheets and reviews is a bit wobbly,

For example, Tp4 knows with absolute certainty that the vast majority of Monitors come with trash level factory calibrations, and they drift extremely quickly, especially from NEW condition.  You can see this readily with a basic colorimeter.

I'd imagine analog audio has even less stability.   but there's no ref equipment to check with since high accuracy analyzers are more expensive than most of the gears.

If people can't test at large,  the market can't elevate.

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 09 November 2022, 21:17:39 »
This really grinds mah gear,  this audiophile dude on the internet, complains about how an amp isn't "linear" because it's class d and has a half db roll off starting at 18000.

Tp4 can't even hear 16500+

Guaranteed all music masters can't hear above that either since they're probably adults.


wow porpoise (dolphin looking) can hear 150,000

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 09 November 2022, 23:11:09 »
This chase for a perfect amplifier, if you turn your head less than 1 degree, you probably get more than 3db worth of dip somewhere.

What is the point of having super linearity if the transducer can't deliver it in any real listening scenario.


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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 10 November 2022, 07:46:29 »
ugh... now this one dude is dissn' tp4's choice of cheepo amplifier,  now tp4 = super mad....

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 10 November 2022, 08:42:16 »

dissn' tp4's choice

now tp4 = super mad


You must spend a lot of time mad.
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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 10 November 2022, 18:38:41 »
What is the point of having super linearity if the transducer can't deliver it in any real listening scenario.
One more reason that headphones are just better (in addition to being cheaper, not being affected by the room and not annoying other people in the house)
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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 23 November 2022, 17:43:33 »
Are Tube pre-amps worth getting or is it only "tubular" with full tube.

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 23 November 2022, 19:28:17 »
I don't see the point in tubes unless you are playing analog source material and want to keep the entire stream analog.
Neoreactionarism is a pseudo-intellectual fascist movement that Musk and Peter Thiel have embraced.  One ideological plank to neoreactionarism is that the "liberal” media is in cahoots with — wait for it — American intelligence agencies and other political establishments to thwart the rule of the enlightened technocrat.  It is only the rise of a superior technocratic class who will crush the establishment and their middle managers and bring about true freedom to human beings.  And it looks like Musk is trying to bring about this political Nirvana at Twitter.
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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 24 November 2022, 07:56:18 »
What is your opinion on omnidirectional speakers, like Duevel?

https://www.duevel.com/en-gb

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 24 November 2022, 08:36:44 »
You have to have a special room designed for omni-directional speakers. Directivity matters because it creates room cancelations. It's generally easier to optimize a beam of sound in a room, vs omni.

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 24 November 2022, 08:44:09 »
You have to have a special room designed for omni-directional speakers.

How should the room be designed?

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 24 November 2022, 09:46:37 »
My vote goes to an ellipse with the 2 speakers at the foci.
Neoreactionarism is a pseudo-intellectual fascist movement that Musk and Peter Thiel have embraced.  One ideological plank to neoreactionarism is that the "liberal” media is in cahoots with — wait for it — American intelligence agencies and other political establishments to thwart the rule of the enlightened technocrat.  It is only the rise of a superior technocratic class who will crush the establishment and their middle managers and bring about true freedom to human beings.  And it looks like Musk is trying to bring about this political Nirvana at Twitter.
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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 24 November 2022, 12:13:00 »
I don't know how a room should be for omni, but oval rooms in general are bad due to creating discontinuities which distorting the stereo image. So you'll hear sounds coming from the wrong direction relative to its intended placement.

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #65 on: Thu, 24 November 2022, 18:38:28 »
LOL, this speaker company is named Geyguy. hahahahahha..

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 25 November 2022, 07:08:45 »
^ And the name is proudly displayed on the front!  Plus, are those eyebrows?  Somehow with just two half arrows that speaker looks pissed off :confused:

How should the room be designed?
I thought the only way to design a room for speakers was to cover everything in foam that looks like egg boxes - doesn't matter what shape it is if there are no sound waves bouncing around?

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 25 November 2022, 08:31:45 »
btw if you really want the most custom amp possible, building a class A or B transistor or tube amp is actually rather easy, and optimizing it for your taste will take weeks of reading and experimenting :)
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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #68 on: Sat, 26 November 2022, 08:15:10 »
Why are crossover parts so expensive, this stuff should cost a few bucks, but even a simple layout is $100.

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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #69 on: Sat, 26 November 2022, 09:29:29 »

Why are crossover parts so expensive


I always figured that even though the raw loose pieces, like the capacitors and resistors, cost only pennies each (well, maybe nickels or dimes) for general hobby use, "audiophiles" are often times insanely demanding so that ordinary parts aren't good enough, and they only feel comfortable with what they perceive to be high-end premium gear (heaven forbid that distortion should be introduced somewhere along the line).

Why do people pay many dollars per foot for "wire" ? ....
Neoreactionarism is a pseudo-intellectual fascist movement that Musk and Peter Thiel have embraced.  One ideological plank to neoreactionarism is that the "liberal” media is in cahoots with — wait for it — American intelligence agencies and other political establishments to thwart the rule of the enlightened technocrat.  It is only the rise of a superior technocratic class who will crush the establishment and their middle managers and bring about true freedom to human beings.  And it looks like Musk is trying to bring about this political Nirvana at Twitter.
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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #70 on: Sat, 26 November 2022, 10:00:25 »
I always figured that even though the raw loose pieces, like the capacitors and resistors, cost only pennies each (well, maybe nickels or dimes) for general hobby use, "audiophiles" are often times insanely demanding so that ordinary parts aren't good enough, and they only feel comfortable with what they perceive to be high-end premium gear (heaven forbid that distortion should be introduced somewhere along the line).

Why do people pay many dollars per foot for "wire" ? ....
Capacitors and resistors are usually rated +/- 10% so if you get one that's on the high end and one on the low end that's a big difference and could be audible, assuming you're actually using them to the limit, hand matching pairs (for left/right channel) takes time and will significantly add to the price.  Do you also need to pay more than double for copper foil over tin in your capacitor, or 12.5x tin for silver?  Probably not :p

Similarly for wire I can see paying a premium for a really nice insulator (especially important when making earphone cables which need to be flexible so as not to make excess noise rubbing on clothes and to not tie themselves in knots) but I question the need to go past 99.9% pure copper (I've seen 99.9999% advertised!) or to deep freeze and polish each strand when you do.
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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #71 on: Sat, 26 November 2022, 18:02:07 »
have a feeling most audiophiles are just stupid.  someone has to be willing to pay this, otherwise they'd be cheaper.

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« Reply #72 on: Sat, 26 November 2022, 18:40:39 »

audiophiles are just willing to pay


A free market allows buyers and sellers to set prices interactively.
Neoreactionarism is a pseudo-intellectual fascist movement that Musk and Peter Thiel have embraced.  One ideological plank to neoreactionarism is that the "liberal” media is in cahoots with — wait for it — American intelligence agencies and other political establishments to thwart the rule of the enlightened technocrat.  It is only the rise of a superior technocratic class who will crush the establishment and their middle managers and bring about true freedom to human beings.  And it looks like Musk is trying to bring about this political Nirvana at Twitter.
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Re: is aud1ophi1e stuff BS ?
« Reply #73 on: Sat, 26 November 2022, 21:34:59 »
speaker stands are NOT affordable. wthhh... why... it's just a  tube.