Looking for blue type switch with more of a clunk than a click

[xdmcDantex]

Hey i have been out of the keyboard buying for awhile and don't know really what kind of switches are out there now. I always liked the idea of blue switches but found them not quite what i wanted. Most blue switches i have used have a very light and nimble click feeling (i also bottom out on them hard but still feels weak) I am looking for more of a chunky clunk feeling (not sure how else to describe what im looking for) I have never used buckling springs but i think i would want something like that with the convenience of modern day tech. I know there are different manufacturers of blue type switches but what would be something that im looking for? Do different keycap materials make them feel different? Also when i say clunk and chunky i don't mean higher actuation force as i like my actuation quite light but if a heavier actuation force switch would feel chunky and clunky then i could make that sacrifice. For reference my main keyboard for the past 4-5 years has been a brown switch 87 pbt key layout and im just looking to change it up.

Many thanks for any help!

[Sup]

Every MX clicky is like that. I would advise to look for a White alps keyboard those have the nice clicky sound or if you want to spend more cash Blue Alps. These are considered the king of clicky switches.

[pixelpusher]

i find the click on cherry greens more satisfying with the heavier spring in it.  Although, it could be that you simply do not like the sound of the mx click jacket style switch.  I enjoy using all kinds of switches, but for a chunky click I would recommend clicky alps.  The newer matias aren't horrible and easier to find in compact layouts such as TKL and 60%. 

If you don't mind a full size board, you should try picking up an old Dell AT-101W with clicky white alps.  I don't see much on ebay at the moment, but they come fairly often.  Also good to check r/mechmarket

New clickbar switches are a bit snappier, but I wouldn't recommend the box jades or navies since you said you prefer a "lighter actuation", as they are quite stiff at the top of the keypress.

[pixelpusher]

Also, it may seem strange, but the way holy switches (holy panda, holy yok, holy GSUS) feel is somewhat in line with what you describe, even though they are a tactile switch and not a clicky switch.  They do have a chunk to them though b/c of the sound the stem makes when it hits the bottom of the housing.  It's quite satisfying.

These aren't going to come in an off the shelf board, but just throwing it out there.

You use the stem from a halo switch (sold only through massdrop or aftermarket like r/mm), and put it in another housing such as the GSUS linear, Panda linear, or YOK linear.

halo switches:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-halo-switch-pack?utm_source=linkshare&referer=YBADZG

YOK switches:
https://novelkeys.xyz/products/yok-red-pandas  I believe a new version of these switches will be in stock soon.

[xdmcDantex]

i find the click on cherry greens more satisfying with the heavier spring in it.  Although, it could be that you simply do not like the sound of the mx click jacket style switch.  I enjoy using all kinds of switches, but for a chunky click I would recommend clicky alps.  The newer matias aren't horrible and easier to find in compact layouts such as TKL and 60%. 

If you don't mind a full size board, you should try picking up an old Dell AT-101W with clicky white alps.  I don't see much on ebay at the moment, but they come fairly often.  Also good to check r/mechmarket

New clickbar switches are a bit snappier, but I wouldn't recommend the box jades or navies since you said you prefer a "lighter actuation", as they are quite stiff at the top of the keypress.

The clickbar switches look the most practical for me and they are on amazon, i think i'm going to try them out they sound good but blue switches sound good as well its just the feel that's unknown.

[Telstar]

Try box jades.

[Telstar]

New clickbar switches are a bit snappier, but I wouldn't recommend the box jades or navies since you said you prefer a "lighter actuation", as they are quite stiff at the top of the keypress.

uh? the jades are more or less the same weight as blues. Sound is heavily influenced by caps.

[pixelpusher]

Weight of spring yes. But the force to overcome the click bar is more than the click in mx blue.

[xdmcDantex]

i find the click on cherry greens more satisfying with the heavier spring in it.  Although, it could be that you simply do not like the sound of the mx click jacket style switch.  I enjoy using all kinds of switches, but for a chunky click I would recommend clicky alps.  The newer matias aren't horrible and easier to find in compact layouts such as TKL and 60%. 

If you don't mind a full size board, you should try picking up an old Dell AT-101W with clicky white alps.  I don't see much on ebay at the moment, but they come fairly often.  Also good to check r/mechmarket

New clickbar switches are a bit snappier, but I wouldn't recommend the box jades or navies since you said you prefer a "lighter actuation", as they are quite stiff at the top of the keypress.

Hey what do you think about this idea to do kailth box switches? Im thinking about getting this board on amazon https://www.amazon.com/HUO-JI-Mechanical-Multicolor-Anti-Ghosting/dp/B01EJ0ZHS6/ref=sr_1_19?crid=1KCX8W2ZA6GMH&keywords=hot%2Bswap%2Bswitch%2Bmechanical%2Bkeyboard&qid=1553193095&s=gateway&sprefix=switch%2Bswap%2Bkeyboard%2Caps%2C246&sr=8-19&th=1 and then buying these switches https://novelkeys.xyz/products/novelkeys-x-kailh-box-thick-clicks?variant=3747938238504 Would those switches be compatible with that board to hot swap them?

[pixelpusher]

I heavily dislike the jade.  Some people love them.  They feel like they catch on the way back up to me. They will not feel smooth like mx blues. I have to alter my typing style to use them.

I suggest box pale blue or the new pink. The new pink have the best sound to me. Just my opinion.

[xdmcDantex]

I heavily dislike the jade.  Some people love them.  They feel like they catch on the way back up to me. They will not feel smooth like mx blues. I have to alter my typing style to use them.

I suggest box pale blue or the new pink. The new pink have the best sound to me. Just my opinion.

Im going to be purchasing a switch tester for $10 with most of the kailth box switches but will that combo of keyboard and those switches work?

[tp4tissue]

Try box jades.

Dis is what u want.. Max-Feels.

[Telstar]

I heavily dislike the jade.  Some people love them.  They feel like they catch on the way back up to me. They will not feel smooth like mx blues. I have to alter my typing style to use them.

I suggest box pale blue or the new pink. The new pink have the best sound to me. Just my opinion.

I think it's pretty subjective. The OP should try all these options (and a few more), except maybe the navies that will be surely too heavy.

[Telstar]

i find the click on cherry greens more satisfying with the heavier spring in it.  Although, it could be that you simply do not like the sound of the mx click jacket style switch.  I enjoy using all kinds of switches, but for a chunky click I would recommend clicky alps.  The newer matias aren't horrible and easier to find in compact layouts such as TKL and 60%. 

If you don't mind a full size board, you should try picking up an old Dell AT-101W with clicky white alps.  I don't see much on ebay at the moment, but they come fairly often.  Also good to check r/mechmarket

New clickbar switches are a bit snappier, but I wouldn't recommend the box jades or navies since you said you prefer a "lighter actuation", as they are quite stiff at the top of the keypress.

Hey what do you think about this idea to do kailth box switches? Im thinking about getting this board on amazon https://www.amazon.com/HUO-JI-Mechanical-Multicolor-Anti-Ghosting/dp/B01EJ0ZHS6/ref=sr_1_19?crid=1KCX8W2ZA6GMH&keywords=hot%2Bswap%2Bswitch%2Bmechanical%2Bkeyboard&qid=1553193095&s=gateway&sprefix=switch%2Bswap%2Bkeyboard%2Caps%2C246&sr=8-19&th=1 and then buying these switches https://novelkeys.xyz/products/novelkeys-x-kailh-box-thick-clicks?variant=3747938238504 Would those switches be compatible with that board to hot swap them?

Yes it's a good plan. Don't forget to get jades, pale blue pink and royals in the switch selection.

[pixelpusher]

I heavily dislike the jade.  Some people love them.  They feel like they catch on the way back up to me. They will not feel smooth like mx blues. I have to alter my typing style to use them.

I suggest box pale blue or the new pink. The new pink have the best sound to me. Just my opinion.

Im going to be purchasing a switch tester for $10 with most of the kailth box switches but will that combo of keyboard and those switches work?

Yes they are compatible.

[Rob27shred]

I honestly think one of the Kailh BOX clicky switches is exactly what you are looking for. The click bar mechanism they use make for a much "chunkier" sound & feel compared to the click jacket mechanism traditional MX clicky switches use. I would suggest getting a tester with all the different variants of BOX clicky switches before you buy a batch though. There really is some pretty big differences in the feel & sound between them all, since not only are there differences in the weighting some of them use a thicker click bars & the newest addition to the line up Pinks have a mid sized clickbar! So there is a good bit of variation in the line up of BOX clicky switches.

The only other clicky switches I would recommend beyond Kaihl BOX would be any of the SKCM ALPS clicky switches. Although there would be a lot more leg work going that route. You'd be dealing with vintage boards, most likely need to convert it to work over USB, caps are hard to find, etc. While I personally find SKCM ALPS the best clicky switches, I'll also be the first to admit using them nowadays is much more of an enthusiast thing. If you are just looking for an easy to put together set up that has more satisfying clicky switches than the standard fare you find in off the shelf boards, BOX switches with a hotswap board is the way to go.

[xdmcDantex]

I honestly think one of the Kailh BOX clicky switches is exactly what you are looking for. The click bar mechanism they use make for a much "chunkier" sound & feel compared to the click jacket mechanism traditional MX clicky switches use. I would suggest getting a tester with all the different variants of BOX clicky switches before you buy a batch though. There really is some pretty big differences in the feel & sound between them all, since not only are there differences in the weighting some of them use a thicker click bars & the newest addition to the line up Pinks have a mid sized clickbar! So there is a good bit of variation in the line up of BOX clicky switches.

The only other clicky switches I would recommend beyond Kaihl BOX would be any of the SKCM ALPS clicky switches. Although there would be a lot more leg work going that route. You'd be dealing with vintage boards, most likely need to convert it to work over USB, caps are hard to find, etc. While I personally find SKCM ALPS the best clicky switches, I'll also be the first to admit using them nowadays is much more of an enthusiast thing. If you are just looking for an easy to put together set up that has more satisfying clicky switches than the standard fare you find in off the shelf boards, BOX switches with a hotswap board is the way to go.

Cool, i just ordered a cheap hotswap board for like $31 on amazon and a $12 switch tester. Thank you everyone for the suggestions and info, there is no way i would have stumbled upon kailth box switches on my own.

Keyboard i ordered: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EJ0ZHS6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Switch tester: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D9DDJ6B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Should be here on Saturday ill update to let you guys know what i like best for anyone that's interested in the same feel i am looking for.

[xdmcDantex]

Hmm im really torn on the jade and the navy. The navy feels more crunchy but im not sure if its just the actuation force that is causing that. I can tell that my muscle memory for my mx browns is going to take awhile to over write with that force on the navy. I can tell you that these switches make any blue switch feel like a McDonald's toy in comparison. If the navy switch was just a tad lighter this would be an easy choice but once again im not sure if the heaviness of the switch is tied to the crunchier feeling.

Also difficult is re soldering switches compared to hot swapping? Im thinking of just keeping my old keycool keyboard with my pbt caps and just swapping the switches out. I have a solder kit with a solder sucker and i have soldered a couple things so im not brand new to it.

[pixelpusher]

Hmm im really torn on the jade and the navy. The navy feels more crunchy but im not sure if its just the actuation force that is causing that. I can tell that my muscle memory for my mx browns is going to take awhile to over write with that force on the navy. I can tell you that these switches make any blue switch feel like a McDonald's toy in comparison. If the navy switch was just a tad lighter this would be an easy choice but once again im not sure if the heaviness of the switch is tied to the crunchier feeling.

Also difficult is re soldering switches compared to hot swapping? Im thinking of just keeping my old keycool keyboard with my pbt caps and just swapping the switches out. I have a solder kit with a solder sucker and i have soldered a couple things so im not brand new to it.

As long as you have the proper tools, swapping out the switches in your old board should be relatively easy. Desoldering always goes a lot smoother by adding some flux or just a tad of newly melted solder+flux before attempting to remove the switches. 

[Telstar]

Since there are no SMD involved you dont need a professional rework station And i find desoldering (with copper braid) easier than soldering small parts (the switches are "big" parts).

[xdmcDantex]

Hmm im really torn on the jade and the navy. The navy feels more crunchy but im not sure if its just the actuation force that is causing that. I can tell that my muscle memory for my mx browns is going to take awhile to over write with that force on the navy. I can tell you that these switches make any blue switch feel like a McDonald's toy in comparison. If the navy switch was just a tad lighter this would be an easy choice but once again im not sure if the heaviness of the switch is tied to the crunchier feeling.

Also difficult is re soldering switches compared to hot swapping? Im thinking of just keeping my old keycool keyboard with my pbt caps and just swapping the switches out. I have a solder kit with a solder sucker and i have soldered a couple things so im not brand new to it.

As long as you have the proper tools, swapping out the switches in your old board should be relatively easy. Desoldering always goes a lot smoother by adding some flux or just a tad of newly melted solder+flux before attempting to remove the switches. 

I think that's what im going to do then, i decided to go with jades after further testing of the navies. I put the navy in this hotswap board and noticed i often didnt apply enough force to actuate the key, even the jades are still a bit on the heavier side for me but i just love that crunchy feeling. Thanks for all the help!

[pixelpusher]

Hmm im really torn on the jade and the navy. The navy feels more crunchy but im not sure if its just the actuation force that is causing that. I can tell that my muscle memory for my mx browns is going to take awhile to over write with that force on the navy. I can tell you that these switches make any blue switch feel like a McDonald's toy in comparison. If the navy switch was just a tad lighter this would be an easy choice but once again im not sure if the heaviness of the switch is tied to the crunchier feeling.

Also difficult is re soldering switches compared to hot swapping? Im thinking of just keeping my old keycool keyboard with my pbt caps and just swapping the switches out. I have a solder kit with a solder sucker and i have soldered a couple things so im not brand new to it.

As long as you have the proper tools, swapping out the switches in your old board should be relatively easy. Desoldering always goes a lot smoother by adding some flux or just a tad of newly melted solder+flux before attempting to remove the switches. 

I think that's what im going to do then, i decided to go with jades after further testing of the navies. I put the navy in this hotswap board and noticed i often didnt apply enough force to actuate the key, even the jades are still a bit on the heavier side for me but i just love that crunchy feeling. Thanks for all the help!

Yep, i know what you mean about sometimes not applying enough force.  That's why I didn't suggest those.  They make me change the way I type.  FWIW, box pinks have a nice sound and don't require as much force to get over the initial bump.  I like them a lot.  I suggest you try some if you haven't.

[xdmcDantex]

Hmm im really torn on the jade and the navy. The navy feels more crunchy but im not sure if its just the actuation force that is causing that. I can tell that my muscle memory for my mx browns is going to take awhile to over write with that force on the navy. I can tell you that these switches make any blue switch feel like a McDonald's toy in comparison. If the navy switch was just a tad lighter this would be an easy choice but once again im not sure if the heaviness of the switch is tied to the crunchier feeling.

Also difficult is re soldering switches compared to hot swapping? Im thinking of just keeping my old keycool keyboard with my pbt caps and just swapping the switches out. I have a solder kit with a solder sucker and i have soldered a couple things so im not brand new to it.

As long as you have the proper tools, swapping out the switches in your old board should be relatively easy. Desoldering always goes a lot smoother by adding some flux or just a tad of newly melted solder+flux before attempting to remove the switches. 

I think that's what im going to do then, i decided to go with jades after further testing of the navies. I put the navy in this hotswap board and noticed i often didnt apply enough force to actuate the key, even the jades are still a bit on the heavier side for me but i just love that crunchy feeling. Thanks for all the help!

Yep, i know what you mean about sometimes not applying enough force.  That's why I didn't suggest those.  They make me change the way I type.  FWIW, box pinks have a nice sound and don't require as much force to get over the initial bump.  I like them a lot.  I suggest you try some if you haven't.

Yeah i couldn't find a tester with the pinks when i ordered my switch tester from amazon. Im going to follow through with the jades and if they end up being too heavy and i cant get used to them ill for sure be checking out pinks. From what i gather pinks have the same spring as box whites and jades but a medium size clickbar compared to the jades thick.

[Telstar]

Be sure to check my feedback when I get my switches tester I have pinks too and will compare with jades and pale blues.

[pixelpusher]

Pinks feel like heavy pale blues with a slightly stiffer bar and much better noise on click

[xdmcDantex]

Well i got my switches and soldered them in my board but im finding them to be too hard to actuate leading to a lot of typing errors and missed inputs in games. I think even once i get used to the new weight its going to effect how well i can play games, especially fps's. I am finding myself being less responsive when i want to switch directions because of the extra needed force which i don't think will go away with time. With my browns i just lightly hovered over the key and could be very fast at pressing different keys, now it feels like i need to have conviction for which key im going to press and focus on each press lol. So im thinking of going with box whites instead. What should i do with my current keyboard i have the jades in? Should i desolder the switches and sell them? Just sell the board with the jades already in them and get a new board for box whites? What would be the best way to get my money back from the jades i have in this board?

I do love the sound they make and love when i can actually type a sentence without missing a press, but i feel for my needs jades are just too heavy, especially considering i do a lot of gaming... They felt less heavy in the switch tester then they do on my board and im using pbt keycaps on my board as well. I guess its just something you have to go full into before you know if you will actually like a switch or not.

[Telstar]

I just got my tester. The jades are a bit on the heavy side, but there really aren't many good clicky switches.
Unfortunately due to the clickbar weight is not possible to put lighter springs in the jades - it's like stock or you need a different switch.
In my list two other clicky types were decent, both lighter than the jade: kailh gold and kailh bronze, the latter uses a clickbar. The bronze is of the speed type and it seems to have a faster actuation and slower travel, but it strangely doesn't bother me. Its sound signature is particular and seems to amplify the keyboard defects , i.e. sounds better on a tester.

Anyway I strongly suggest you to get a small custom tester from novelkeys or other shops (4 or more places if u want to try some tactile too) to try before you solder again.

[xdmcDantex]

I just got my tester. The jades are a bit on the heavy side, but there really aren't many good clicky switches.
Unfortunately due to the clickbar weight is not possible to put lighter springs in the jades - it's like stock or you need a different switch.
In my list two other clicky types were decent, both lighter than the jade: kailh gold and kailh bronze, the latter uses a clickbar. The bronze is of the speed type and it seems to have a faster actuation and slower travel, but it strangely doesn't bother me. Its sound signature is particular and seems to amplify the keyboard defects , i.e. sounds better on a tester.

Anyway I strongly suggest you to get a small custom tester from novelkeys or other shops (4 or more places if u want to try some tactile too) to try before you solder again.

I do have a tester with jades, navies and box whites. So i have the whites right in front of me and they feel lighter than the jades and something i would probably rather have than the jades im just seeing if i can get used to the jades or not. Also wondering best method of selling my jades, if i should de solder and sell or just sell the board they are already soldered into.

Im coming from brown switches, and like i said i always liked the idea of clicky switches but cherry mx blues never lived up to my expectation. The jades sound incredible and feel really good but the weight is just too much to game with i think. So im considering going for box whites, they sacrifice a little on the sound and feel but they feel a lot lighter in the switch tester i have compared to the jades. Seriously, hearing these jades in my keycool 84 with pbt caps is something you would hear as a dramatization of what typing sounds like in a movie or tv show, its just perfect and just what i was looking for.

[rowdy]

Buckling springs (Model M)?

[Telstar]

I didn't like box white, hated the pale blues and actually I think that most of the box switches are overrated, except the clickbars and the royals (not clicky).

Buckling springs (Model M)?

They would certainly fit the bill

Or you could give up on clicky and try some of the most tactile switches such as Zealios v2 67g, box royals and Halo (but the latter are too heavy for you - need to change the springs or make holy panda with them).
Whatever you choose (except the IBM) dont' go blind and get samples to test first.

[Kevadu]

I just got my tester. The jades are a bit on the heavy side, but there really aren't many good clicky switches.
Unfortunately due to the clickbar weight is not possible to put lighter springs in the jades - it's like stock or you need a different switch.
In my list two other clicky types were decent, both lighter than the jade: kailh gold and kailh bronze, the latter uses a clickbar. The bronze is of the speed type and it seems to have a faster actuation and slower travel, but it strangely doesn't bother me. Its sound signature is particular and seems to amplify the keyboard defects , i.e. sounds better on a tester.

Anyway I strongly suggest you to get a small custom tester from novelkeys or other shops (4 or more places if u want to try some tactile too) to try before you solder again.

I do have a tester with jades, navies and box whites. So i have the whites right in front of me and they feel lighter than the jades and something i would probably rather have than the jades im just seeing if i can get used to the jades or not. Also wondering best method of selling my jades, if i should de solder and sell or just sell the board they are already soldered into.

Im coming from brown switches, and like i said i always liked the idea of clicky switches but cherry mx blues never lived up to my expectation. The jades sound incredible and feel really good but the weight is just too much to game with i think. So im considering going for box whites, they sacrifice a little on the sound and feel but they feel a lot lighter in the switch tester i have compared to the jades. Seriously, hearing these jades in my keycool 84 with pbt caps is something you would hear as a dramatization of what typing sounds like in a movie or tv show, its just perfect and just what i was looking for.

You guys both need to try pinks.  They're an intermediate weight and they're really good.

[pixelpusher]

I just got my tester. The jades are a bit on the heavy side, but there really aren't many good clicky switches.
Unfortunately due to the clickbar weight is not possible to put lighter springs in the jades - it's like stock or you need a different switch.
In my list two other clicky types were decent, both lighter than the jade: kailh gold and kailh bronze, the latter uses a clickbar. The bronze is of the speed type and it seems to have a faster actuation and slower travel, but it strangely doesn't bother me. Its sound signature is particular and seems to amplify the keyboard defects , i.e. sounds better on a tester.

Anyway I strongly suggest you to get a small custom tester from novelkeys or other shops (4 or more places if u want to try some tactile too) to try before you solder again.

I do have a tester with jades, navies and box whites. So i have the whites right in front of me and they feel lighter than the jades and something i would probably rather have than the jades im just seeing if i can get used to the jades or not. Also wondering best method of selling my jades, if i should de solder and sell or just sell the board they are already soldered into.

Im coming from brown switches, and like i said i always liked the idea of clicky switches but cherry mx blues never lived up to my expectation. The jades sound incredible and feel really good but the weight is just too much to game with i think. So im considering going for box whites, they sacrifice a little on the sound and feel but they feel a lot lighter in the switch tester i have compared to the jades. Seriously, hearing these jades in my keycool 84 with pbt caps is something you would hear as a dramatization of what typing sounds like in a movie or tv show, its just perfect and just what i was looking for.

You guys both need to try pinks.  They're an intermediate weight and they're really good.

I like pinks too, but they might not be tactile enough for him.  But the spring weight is nice and the sound is MUCH better than pale blue or white

[Telstar]

You guys both need to try pinks.  They're an intermediate weight and they're really good.

Mines are coming in the mail. I think the tactility won't be enough for me, but they are certainly worth to try.

[xdmcDantex]

I just got my tester. The jades are a bit on the heavy side, but there really aren't many good clicky switches.
Unfortunately due to the clickbar weight is not possible to put lighter springs in the jades - it's like stock or you need a different switch.
In my list two other clicky types were decent, both lighter than the jade: kailh gold and kailh bronze, the latter uses a clickbar. The bronze is of the speed type and it seems to have a faster actuation and slower travel, but it strangely doesn't bother me. Its sound signature is particular and seems to amplify the keyboard defects , i.e. sounds better on a tester.

Anyway I strongly suggest you to get a small custom tester from novelkeys or other shops (4 or more places if u want to try some tactile too) to try before you solder again.

I do have a tester with jades, navies and box whites. So i have the whites right in front of me and they feel lighter than the jades and something i would probably rather have than the jades im just seeing if i can get used to the jades or not. Also wondering best method of selling my jades, if i should de solder and sell or just sell the board they are already soldered into.

Im coming from brown switches, and like i said i always liked the idea of clicky switches but cherry mx blues never lived up to my expectation. The jades sound incredible and feel really good but the weight is just too much to game with i think. So im considering going for box whites, they sacrifice a little on the sound and feel but they feel a lot lighter in the switch tester i have compared to the jades. Seriously, hearing these jades in my keycool 84 with pbt caps is something you would hear as a dramatization of what typing sounds like in a movie or tv show, its just perfect and just what i was looking for.

You guys both need to try pinks.  They're an intermediate weight and they're really good.

I just got my tester. The jades are a bit on the heavy side, but there really aren't many good clicky switches.
Unfortunately due to the clickbar weight is not possible to put lighter springs in the jades - it's like stock or you need a different switch.
In my list two other clicky types were decent, both lighter than the jade: kailh gold and kailh bronze, the latter uses a clickbar. The bronze is of the speed type and it seems to have a faster actuation and slower travel, but it strangely doesn't bother me. Its sound signature is particular and seems to amplify the keyboard defects , i.e. sounds better on a tester.

Anyway I strongly suggest you to get a small custom tester from novelkeys or other shops (4 or more places if u want to try some tactile too) to try before you solder again.

I do have a tester with jades, navies and box whites. So i have the whites right in front of me and they feel lighter than the jades and something i would probably rather have than the jades im just seeing if i can get used to the jades or not. Also wondering best method of selling my jades, if i should de solder and sell or just sell the board they are already soldered into.

Im coming from brown switches, and like i said i always liked the idea of clicky switches but cherry mx blues never lived up to my expectation. The jades sound incredible and feel really good but the weight is just too much to game with i think. So im considering going for box whites, they sacrifice a little on the sound and feel but they feel a lot lighter in the switch tester i have compared to the jades. Seriously, hearing these jades in my keycool 84 with pbt caps is something you would hear as a dramatization of what typing sounds like in a movie or tv show, its just perfect and just what i was looking for.

You guys both need to try pinks.  They're an intermediate weight and they're really good.

I like pinks too, but they might not be tactile enough for him.  But the spring weight is nice and the sound is MUCH better than pale blue or white

Yeah im looking at pinks as well as whites, idk i wake up and when i start using my jades its rough but by the end of the night im used to them so i think im gonna give them some more time. The sound of these things in my board is pure magic i should upload a typing video. The sound is exactly what i was looking for its just perfect.

Anyways here is a pic of my board i put the jades in, ignore the timestamp this was a pic i used in a reddit thread looking to trade my jade switches. https://imgur.com/a/pLChNif

[xdmcDantex]

I just put a kailth box red spring inside a jade and it feels a lot better, this might be what im going to do. I think im falling down the rabbit hole of mechanical keyboards and i can't say i hate it. At first i told myself i was just going to get one switch type i liked and stick to it without doing crazy modifications. But it's really easy to take apart switches and swap springs and i found a site where i can buy just springs in any weight for cheap, so i think my plan is to do some experimenting, i think im going to sell my keycool 84 and just get a gmmk tenkeyless so i can hotswap switches and test things out so i can find my perfect switch. If anyone is interested in purchasing my keycool 84 with 60 jade switches in it let me know i will be linking my post on /r/mechmarket if anyone is interested. Im looking to get $110 including shipping out of it so i can break at least somewhat even with what i put into it.

[Telstar]

Watch out that you cannot put too light springs inside the jades or they may not bottom up.

[xdmcDantex]

Watch out that you cannot put too light springs inside the jades or they may not bottom up.

Would 35g weight springs be too low? I got a gmmk hotswap board on its way with gateron clear switches, im going to try using those 35g springs on a jade switch, if not then i could order 45g springs. I think the box red switch that i used uses 50g springs and they work fine.

[Telstar]

idk, someone that tried maybe will chime in.