3060 Laptops

[tp4tissue]

How y'all feel about the new 3060 mobile

It's ~ the same speed as a desktop 1080ti / 2070Super

The Desktop 3060 is ~36% faster than the laptop variant. SO it's within 5% of the desktop 2080 Ti


The mobile 3080 is kind of a rip-off cuz it's slower than a desktop 2080ti, yet it's +$1000-1500 vs a 3060 laptop

[yui]

How y'all feel about the new 3060 mobile

It's ~ the same speed as a desktop 1080ti / 2070Super

The Desktop 3060 is ~36% faster than the laptop variant. SO it's within 5% of the desktop 2080 Ti


The mobile 3080 is kind of a rip-off cuz it's slower than a desktop 2080ti, yet it's +$1000-1500 vs a 3060 laptop

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i feel like the true solution is to have a tower with a proper GPU for gaming and a cheapo laptop to VNC/RDP/steamlink to it
that way:
  you get the power of a big tower
  you get the mobility of a cheap laptop
  you do not need to worry about breaking your expensive laptop
  you do not have to deal with short battery life and heavy power bricks
i feel this is the best of both worlds, that is if my towers stopped on dying...

[funkmon]

I typically am of this mindset, and if a PC needs a small upgrade it's easy to do it, but a laptop I consider largely disposable.

[tp4tissue]

I typically am of this mindset, and if a PC needs a small upgrade it's easy to do it, but a laptop I consider largely disposable.

Here Tp4 were, planning to play his 1660ti lappy to the grave.

[yui]

I typically am of this mindset, and if a PC needs a small upgrade it's easy to do it, but a laptop I consider largely disposable.

Here Tp4 were, planning to play his 1660ti lappy to the grave.

depend how far is the grave, and what performance you expect, all my pc are 8+ years old and i still plan to game on them for the foreseeable future, sooo could just happen (oh and none have proper high end gpu, well none working)

[Darthbaggins]

If I go for a laptop, I'd be shooting for the 3070 version so I can get more of a lifespan out of the machine.  But for the price I end up just building a desktop, other than now the main way to get any of the new GPUs is from buying pre-builts (so far from my findings is the easier route).

[tp4tissue]

If I go for a laptop, I'd be shooting for the 3070 version so I can get more of a lifespan out of the machine.  But for the price I end up just building a desktop, other than now the main way to get any of the new GPUs is from buying pre-builts (so far from my findings is the easier route).

They're still running into the power wall problem.

The generational leap is big, but between 3060 and 3070 and 3080 is only ~10% each on mobile it seems.

So, unless they made a gigantic laptop, you really won't get your money's worth above the 3060.

Same was the case of 2xxx series,   if they just power gated higher, they could've had a 1660ti nearly as fast as a mobile 2080

[yui]

If I go for a laptop, I'd be shooting for the 3070 version so I can get more of a lifespan out of the machine.  But for the price I end up just building a desktop, other than now the main way to get any of the new GPUs is from buying pre-builts (so far from my findings is the easier route).

They're still running into the power wall problem.

The generational leap is big, but between 3060 and 3070 and 3080 is only ~10% each on mobile it seems.

So, unless they made a gigantic laptop, you really won't get your money's worth above the 3060.

Same was the case of 2xxx series,   if they just power gated higher, they could've had a 1660ti nearly as fast as a mobile 2080

from what i have read at the same power there is a very marginal leap on desktop as well, nVidia just pumped extra W into those cards to make them more capable...

[noisyturtle]

I always felt like gaming laptops were going against the very idea of why laptops exist in the first place.
I guess technology must've improved over the last decade though.
Unless they are still 12lb testicle frying hot plates that only get 65 mins on a full charge.

[yui]

Unless they are still 12lb testicle frying hot plates that only get 65 mins on a full charge.

you got a bit more options, but yeah pretty much still that this is why i say powerful desktop + cheap laptop

[tp4tissue]

I always felt like gaming laptops were going against the very idea of why laptops exist in the first place.
I guess technology must've improved over the last decade though.
Unless they are still 12lb testicle frying hot plates that only get 65 mins on a full charge.

well no, they power gate to ~40-60watts max on most of these gaming laptops when on battery.  So they get reasonable 3-5 hours even with the smallest 50whr batteries.

The bigger battery ones can get 8 hours,  and the Latest AMD chip can do 12-14ish

[yui]

well no, they power gate to ~40-60watts max on most of these gaming laptops when on battery.  So they get reasonable 3-5 hours even with the smallest 50whr batteries. [/size][/color]

that does not compute 50 / 60 is not 3 hours, a 50W load on a 50Whr battery will flatten it in, well, one hour so to reach 3 hours they would need to reduce the power much farther (well 50 / 3 = about 17W)
ok i may be oversimplifying as no gaming load is perfect, but still i would expect that most game would use more than a third of the available resources at all time

[tp4tissue]

well no, they power gate to ~40-60watts max on most of these gaming laptops when on battery.  So they get reasonable 3-5 hours even with the smallest 50whr batteries. [/size][/color]

that does not compute 50 / 60 is not 3 hours, a 50W load on a 50Whr battery will flatten it in, well, one hour so to reach 3 hours they would need to reduce the power much farther (well 50 / 3 = about 17W)
ok i may be oversimplifying as no gaming load is perfect, but still i would expect that most game would use more than a third of the available resources at all time

real use,  you don't run 50 watt all the time.

[yui]

there is no "real use", intel loves to use that term for their marketing because on one slide it means idle 99.9% of the time while on the other it means plugged in full power in bursts (the 2 things intel cpus do best), you you game for 3 hours i expect your cpu and gpu both will try to stay at highest possible power for most of that time so to reach that on 50kwh they would need to be severely kneecapped.

[jamster]

I always felt like gaming laptops were going against the very idea of why laptops exist in the first place.
I guess technology must've improved over the last decade though.
Unless they are still 12lb testicle frying hot plates that only get 65 mins on a full charge.

It still sounds a bit like trying to turn a Morris Mini into a racecar. Expensive, with all sorts of compromises included.

[alphanoob]

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