Wasting Mechanical Keyboards

[HPE1000]

Oh to be 16 again.......

hahaha

I didn't understand what you meant by that at first then I realized.

[Michael]

Linkbane making many friends, as usual.

[Photekq]

Moose has it right. Speed does not matter. The amount of usage is what matters. If you use a keyboard for 10 hours per day then a mechanical keyboard will be worth the money no matter how slowly you type.

[demik]

linkbane second half 2013 tp4tissue

[tp4tissue]

linkbane second half 2013 tp4tissue

Demik, ur just jealous I've surpassed your popularity

[hashbaz]

Increasing typing speed is not on my radar at all when it comes to which keyboards I purchase.  There are so many other factors to consider, as everyone has been pointing out.

Did not have to do with what I said.
It's pointless to post this on GH because everyone has enough money and sense (or lack of it) to buy lots of boards.

Must everyone become so stupidly defensive when I question their motives? Again, all of the examples given are completely illogical.

I, like everyone else in this thread, am arguing logically and directly in response to what you wrote in the OP:

Honestly, I feel as if it's rather pointless for people who can't type to use a mechanical keyboard. It doesn't increase speed at all at lower wpm...
[snip]
What do you think the bar for a mechanical keyboard having any use is? I'd say somewhere like 55, personally, what about you?

There is no speed bar for when it becomes not pointless to use a mechanical keyboard because speed is not the primary benefit of using one.

[tp4tissue]

Increasing typing speed is not on my radar at all when it comes to which keyboards I purchase.  There are so many other factors to consider, as everyone has been pointing out.

Did not have to do with what I said.
It's pointless to post this on GH because everyone has enough money and sense (or lack of it) to buy lots of boards.

Must everyone become so stupidly defensive when I question their motives? Again, all of the examples given are completely illogical.

I, like everyone else in this thread, am arguing logically and directly in response to what you wrote in the OP:

Honestly, I feel as if it's rather pointless for people who can't type to use a mechanical keyboard. It doesn't increase speed at all at lower wpm...
[snip]
What do you think the bar for a mechanical keyboard having any use is? I'd say somewhere like 55, personally, what about you?

There is no speed bar for when it becomes not pointless to use a mechanical keyboard because speed is not the primary benefit of using one.

I believe Linkbane is using "speed" as an indirect benchmark of computer usage...


For example... If you're on the computer all day for work/play, you'd naturally develop a high speed..

So...
someone with a LOW-SPEED   is indicative of a situation where they do not use the computer as much.

And by using their speed reference, we can roughly determine indirectly (HOW MUCH) the person would really gain by switching to mechanical...


so.. for example...

Person A uses the computer for 30mins a day.  He has 30wpm speed..  computing really isn't a great part of his life..

How much will this person benefit by switching to mechanical ??

VS

Person B uses the computer 8 hours a day. He has 100wpm speed..  computing is 1/3 of this person's life..

How much will Person B benefit form a mechanical keyboard ??



So... speed IS RELEVANT.. as an indirect statistic which correlates to how much this person uses the computer, therefore gauging  if the switch to mechanical would be worth the expense.



So, when Linkbane says,  "this person types 30wpm he's wasting money on a mechanical... "


That is the same thing as saying.. this person uses the computer very little.. there's really no reason that he should spend resources on switching to a keyboard that he simply  "WILL NOT USE OFTEN ENOUGH"...

[Polymer]

That's a terrible conclusion.  While the correlation between WPM and time on computer might be somewhat loose...it doesn't matter...Buying a mechanical is not about money in relation to functionality or additional functionality.  It is about are you going to get enough utility (in the economic sense) out of it to justify the cost.  Basically, are you going to get enough enjoyment out of it.  I think the answer to that for basically everyone on this forum is yes, they do.  That buying decision is a personal one...everyone derives different levels of utility from things...what value you place on that will depend on a lot of different factors not least of which is how much money you actually have to spend. 

[Linkbane]

That's a terrible conclusion.  While the correlation between WPM and time on computer might be somewhat loose...it doesn't matter...Buying a mechanical is not about money in relation to functionality or additional functionality.  It is about are you going to get enough utility (in the economic sense) out of it to justify the cost.  Basically, are you going to get enough enjoyment out of it. 

So functionality isn't related to utility, and then you say that getting utility economically is basically enjoyment?
Break argument meta, debate on two different levels at once?

[tp4tissue]

That's a terrible conclusion.  While the correlation between WPM and time on computer might be somewhat loose...it doesn't matter...Buying a mechanical is not about money in relation to functionality or additional functionality.  It is about are you going to get enough utility (in the economic sense) out of it to justify the cost.  Basically, are you going to get enough enjoyment out of it.  I think the answer to that for basically everyone on this forum is yes, they do.  That buying decision is a personal one...everyone derives different levels of utility from things...what value you place on that will depend on a lot of different factors not least of which is how much money you actually have to spend. 

My point is that Utility is a good measure for purchases.


If you want to say.. "this purchase" makes me happy..  that's valid as well... I agree

but if it VIOLATES  utility....   then in most cases, there are better options for your money, which have BOTH more utility TO YOU... and make you just as if not more happy.

[Polymer]

That's a terrible conclusion.  While the correlation between WPM and time on computer might be somewhat loose...it doesn't matter...Buying a mechanical is not about money in relation to functionality or additional functionality.  It is about are you going to get enough utility (in the economic sense) out of it to justify the cost.  Basically, are you going to get enough enjoyment out of it. 

So functionality isn't related to utility, and then you say that getting utility economically is basically enjoyment?
Break argument meta, debate on two different levels at once?

No..I said utility, using the term the way it would be used in economics, is basically enjoyment.  There is actually more to that term than just enjoyment but to make it easy that is a good way to think about it. 

Functionality, as in, greater functionality in the way of making someone type faster, is not why most people spend extra money on mechanical keyboards...I'm sure some people might have justified their purchase in some objective way...it lasts longer, I'm typing better, I'm using better form, etc, etc...but the reality is, most people probably aren't typing any faster (although some are), the keyboard longevity probably isn't a factor at all...the real basis for using one is, you enjoy it more...the quality is probably better, it feels better in your hands....a quality instrument vs. an ordinary one...

[SpAmRaY]

And really, I do scoff at 40 wpm idiots, but only when they brag about how good of a board they have and can't use it better than most sixth graders.

Bro I found you a hat!



ps: be careful if you google fast fingers you might get inappropriate images wouldn't want your mom to see those, I was trying to find that site you used so I get test my skillz 

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

I had to un-ignore Linkbane to read this thread. I wish I never did...

On one hand though I will give him credit, his initial argument is quite logical. But it's still wrong, because as we all know, humans are not logical. On that basis, his argument therefore becomes illogical.



Disproves logic with more logic. Your arguments are invalid.

[iri]

this forum goes insane

[SpAmRaY]

this forum goes insane

congats on 400 posts iri!!

[goobus]

And really, I do scoff at 40 wpm idiots, but only when they brag about how good of a board they have and can't use it better than most sixth graders.

Bro I found you a hat!

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ps: be carefuly if you google fast fingers you might get inappropriate images wouldn't want your mom to see those 

In light of this post, I think we can close this thread now.

[iri]

this forum goes insane

congats on 400 posts iri!!

wrong thread but thanks!!

[esoomenona]

ps: be carefuly if you google fast fingers you might get inappropriate images wouldn't want your mom to see those 

Just so everyone knows, the site that Linkbane's supposed typing test was performed on is 10fastfingers.com, NOT fastfingers.com... If I was anyone else, I'd probably wonder what whoever checks the logs thinks, but I'm sure they know it's just par for the course in my case.