Clipping Cherry Stabilizers! - Does it work on plate mount?

[justordinary]

Hey guys its my first post here in GH. 

I have been using a Filco MJ2 TKL for about 2 months and now i've gotten a new Poker II and first thing that hit me was the keys with stabilizers. The cherry ones on my Poker II feels so awful and heavy like its loaded with 80g spring in it that i don't even bother to use my Poker II because of that. Backspace/Enter/Left Shift especially feels so heavy compared to my other keys.

So I'm planning to clip the cherry stabilizers but can anyone tell me if i can clip the cherry stabilizers on a plate mounted board? I've seen tons of tutorials and pictures of clipping the cherry stabilizers but all of them are PCB mounted.

I notice plate mounted and PCB mounted cherry stabilizers are different. Does the clipping trick works on plate mounted board? (Poker II)

[Photekq]

Yes

[feizor]

Yes

+1

[Fnzzy]

To remove the Cherry stabilizer you need to desolder every switch (and LED if you have some installed) in order to part the plate and the PCB. Only then you can remove the stabilizer.

Probably the reason why it's shown on PCB mounted boards. It's easier.

[IvanIvanovich]

No you would only need to remove any switch that is in the way of removing them, so probably up to 7 that would need to be desoldered depending on which board it is.

[justordinary]

Riiight think i got my answer thanks! 

[tp4tissue]

The difference was quite subtle for me.. I wouldn't describe is as what others have said, M0re like Costar stabs..

IMHO,  I would describe it as more L00se, more tilt...

[Melvang]

If you are using PCB mount cherry stabs and have a plate that does NOT have big openings, you will have to desolder the entire board.  If you have big openings, than only that one switch if your plate also has the cutout between stab holes for the wire.

[justordinary]

I have a Poker II non-modded board. Do i have to desolder all switches or just the switches on the stab itself?

[Oobly]

You just need to remove the switch between the stabilisers.

[tbc]

can someone tell me why there are both pcb and plste mount stabilizers?

are there both types for both stab types?

is it simply compatibility reasons (pcb mount board obviously needs pcb mount stabs)?  or is feeling involved?

[strict]

can someone tell me why there are both pcb and plste mount stabilizers?

are there both types for both stab types?

is it simply compatibility reasons (pcb mount board obviously needs pcb mount stabs)?  or is feeling involved?

Compatibility reasons mostly. Some boards do not have the through-holes on the PCB for PCB mount stabs to be used (eg. Phantom) so plate mount stabs are required. On the other side, there are plenty of boards with no plate whatsoever which makes PCB mount stabs a requirement. Also, some boards, in an effort to create as many layout options as possible (eg. Gon), do not have the ability to use plate mount due to the unique size/shape of the switch holes in the plate so PCB mount stabs are required.

[tbc]

can someone tell me why there are both pcb and plste mount stabilizers?

are there both types for both stab types?

is it simply compatibility reasons (pcb mount board obviously needs pcb mount stabs)?  or is feeling involved?

Compatibility reasons mostly. Some boards do not have the through-holes on the PCB for PCB mount stabs to be used (eg. Phantom) so plate mount stabs are required. On the other side, there are plenty of boards with no plate whatsoever which makes PCB mount stabs a requirement. Also, some boards, in an effort to create as many layout options as possible (eg. Gon), do not have the ability to use plate mount due to the unique size/shape of the switch holes in the plate so PCB mount stabs are required.

ah.  thanks for good breakdown

[IvanIvanovich]

Or it's simply stupidity. Only one should really be necessary, it's poor planning and lack of a standard that brought us both. PCB mount everything, plates are DUMB!

[Oobly]

I'm glad both exist, personally. Makes it possible to make a DIY board with only a plate and no PCB. More options is usually better than less. And until they bring out a PCB as stiff as a sheet of steel I prefer the feeling of plate mounted switches.