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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 03 August 2017, 23:23:22 »
I'm just kinda bummed that vega seems like it's gonna be kinda weak sauce.

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 06:07:26 »
gone back? never left it, even if only for those games which are exclusive... but if something is available on PC, it's PC all the way...
so, console only if not doable on PC!

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 09:36:43 »
I would say acceptable quality pc gaming is just too expensive.

at least $700 no monitor assuming you know what you're doing and pirate the os.



the only saving would come in via pirating which unlocks the entire pc gaming library.




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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 09:46:30 »
$700 is pretty darn close to console gaming expenses after all's said and done - system, game, monthly pass etc

Maybe off by like $50-100 but pretty close

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 09:51:04 »
I would say acceptable quality pc gaming is just too expensive.

at least $700 no monitor assuming you know what you're doing and pirate the os.



the only saving would come in via pirating which unlocks the entire pc gaming library.


well, even if not pirating, PC games cost less so in the long run buying the games will make the whole thing cheaper
also, considering how much we're spending on keyboards, a 1800$ PC that lasts you 3-4 years isn't too much, and then investing 400$ after those 3-4years in a new GPU to make the whole rig last another few years is acceptable for me.


if you're not hellbent on crazy refresh rates a TV will do as a monitor too... but as I said, I spent 3k-4.5k $$$ on keyboards and caps in the last 2-3months, so PC isn't that expensive in comparison ;)

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 09:52:41 »
$700 is pretty darn close to console gaming expenses after all's said and done - system, game, monthly pass etc

Maybe off by like $50-100 but pretty close


oh yeah, you gotta additionaly & regularly pay extra to play online with consoles  :))  (that's just something I can't get behind... my newest console is a PS3) :D (considering a switch though maybe in near future if games like dead cells etc. release on it)

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 09:53:14 »
Kind of nice not having to upgrade your video card every 12 months
My GPU is a 6yo model that was absolute low-end when it came out. Yes, it can't run the latest AAA titles, but there's a huge supply of independent or older games. #PatientGamer

larger player bases on consoles (for non-moba games)...
Depends on genre… and I basically don't play multiplayer games anyway. And my preferred genres are nearly non-existent on consoles.

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You can connect your TV to a desktop or any PC. In fact, modern consoles _are_ PCs, only crippled…

I really dislike the modern OS used in really any modern console, especially anything from Microsoft that is just saturated with ads. I dislike the forced DRM and how you need to install games that are playing off a disc. I hate day 1 DLC, and I hate day 1 40GB patches, I hate the forced social aspect such as integrated Twitter and Facebook, or PS4s stupid 'share' button. I ESPECIALLY hate the almost complete lack of innovation in modern consoles killing developer creativity, making truly unique and new games basically impossible to get a similar AAA budget to the constant sequels being vomited up eaten and regurgitated on an annual biases. I hate being bombarded with ads and having to sign into a profile to play every damn game, I hate the hardware not being modular at this point while still being nothing more than a PC that you cannot upgrade. I ****ing hate modern consoles and I think console gaming is pretty much dead at this point with little hope of seeing anything innovative or exciting, everything is jumping on whatever the current market trend is ignoring any heart or ingenuity or independence any able-ideaed developer might have.
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It's like reading tolkien , just read the cliff notes.. watch the movie, read some reviews and you're done.
I wholeheartedly disagree; JRR Tolkien got me interested in European mythology and linguistics.

Some people criticize LotR for being simplistic and what not, but don't forget that Tolkien basically started the whole genre.
 

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 09:56:01 »
$700 is pretty darn close to console gaming expenses after all's said and done - system, game, monthly pass etc

Maybe off by like $50-100 but pretty close


oh yeah, you gotta additionaly & regularly pay extra to play online with consoles  :))  (that's just something I can't get behind... my newest console is a PS3) :D (considering a switch though maybe in near future if games like dead cells etc. release on it)

And if you're not intent on getting every game new, you can get them in a few months on a steam sale.  Considering how many games I have and haven't played, that's what I do for the most part.  No humblebundle/bundlestars/green man gaming for consoles...

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 12:01:00 »

I wholeheartedly disagree; JRR Tolkien got me interested in European mythology and linguistics.

Some people criticize LotR for being simplistic and what not, but don't forget that Tolkien basically started the whole genre.
 



This is ridiculous..  Just because something was first doesn't mean it's the best or even very good.

Somewhere someone invented the first noodle..   it's alrite, tastes ok,    but then they invented RAMEN.. the Ultimate noodle.. all other noodles are the Suxx..



And high fantasy is only recent for english texts,  if you go across to other cultures and languages, we've had high fantasy fiction for thousands of years..


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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 12:08:44 »
I would say acceptable quality pc gaming is just too expensive.

at least $700 no monitor assuming you know what you're doing and pirate the os.



the only saving would come in via pirating which unlocks the entire pc gaming library.


well, even if not pirating, PC games cost less so in the long run buying the games will make the whole thing cheaper
also, considering how much we're spending on keyboards, a 1800$ PC that lasts you 3-4 years isn't too much, and then investing 400$ after those 3-4years in a new GPU to make the whole rig last another few years is acceptable for me.


if you're not hellbent on crazy refresh rates a TV will do as a monitor too... but as I said, I spent 3k-4.5k $$$ on keyboards and caps in the last 2-3months, so PC isn't that expensive in comparison ;)


1800 / 4 is $450 per year, that's buying a ps4 every year..   

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 12:22:58 »
I would say acceptable quality pc gaming is just too expensive.

at least $700 no monitor assuming you know what you're doing and pirate the os.



the only saving would come in via pirating which unlocks the entire pc gaming library.


well, even if not pirating, PC games cost less so in the long run buying the games will make the whole thing cheaper
also, considering how much we're spending on keyboards, a 1800$ PC that lasts you 3-4 years isn't too much, and then investing 400$ after those 3-4years in a new GPU to make the whole rig last another few years is acceptable for me.


if you're not hellbent on crazy refresh rates a TV will do as a monitor too... but as I said, I spent 3k-4.5k $$$ on keyboards and caps in the last 2-3months, so PC isn't that expensive in comparison ;)


1800 / 4 is $450 per year, that's buying a ps4 every year..   
Worth it :D

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 12:24:52 »
I would say acceptable quality pc gaming is just too expensive.

at least $700 no monitor assuming you know what you're doing and pirate the os.



the only saving would come in via pirating which unlocks the entire pc gaming library.


well, even if not pirating, PC games cost less so in the long run buying the games will make the whole thing cheaper
also, considering how much we're spending on keyboards, a 1800$ PC that lasts you 3-4 years isn't too much, and then investing 400$ after those 3-4years in a new GPU to make the whole rig last another few years is acceptable for me.


if you're not hellbent on crazy refresh rates a TV will do as a monitor too... but as I said, I spent 3k-4.5k $$$ on keyboards and caps in the last 2-3months, so PC isn't that expensive in comparison ;)


1800 / 4 is $450 per year, that's buying a ps4 every year..   

It's not 1800/4.  It's (1800+400)/7-8 years.  Going 8 to make the math more even, that's $275 a year for a platform that lets you do other things.

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 12:30:30 »


1800 / 4 is $450 per year, that's buying a ps4 every year..   
Worth it :D



That's debatable,   but it's realistically limited to middle class and above..

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 12:32:10 »
I never really left console, but I enjoy PC for FPS games and console for fighting games.

They just feel better with the keyboard/mouse and fight stick/controller respectively.

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 16:59:16 »
And high fantasy is only recent for english texts,  if you go across to other cultures and languages, we've had high fantasy fiction for thousands of years..
Yes, it's called mythology.

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 18:22:23 »
modern OS in console saturated with ads ... forced DRM .... install games ... day 1 DLC ... day 1 40GB patches ... forced Twitter and Facebook ... stupid 'share' button ... sign into a profile ...

+1 All you mention. Consoles always had the touch of elegance for me, as when I plunge in a cardridge into my mega drive, switch the power on toggle and it simply runs! No questions asked, no login, no delay, no nagging ****. Nowadays there is too much overhead in the user interface. Which one is the last console you fancy?
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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 05 August 2017, 12:26:05 »
If you do not enjoy your hobby I would suggest finding one that you do. What is the point in a game you don't play? A book without words, a song without sound.


My point isn't that games arn't worth while,   only that like a book or a song,  not all of it is going to be good.   In the case of games, ALOT of it isn't good because if the perceived value is in the length of the game, they're going to dot it thoroughly with small grindy bits..

It's like reading tolkien , just read the cliff notes.. watch the movie, read some reviews and you're done.

For quite a while now (since xbox360 probably) I've generally preferred shorter games, usually indie stuff, because I rarely want to spend 10+ hours on a game. Stuff like Inside and Gone Home are perfect to me cos I can do them in an evening and have a powerful experience. Or arcade stuff like OutRun for short bursts. I'll put big hours into really special stuff like GTAV or Zelda BOTW but it's rare, like once every couple of years. It's not like when I was a kid/teen and wanted to find every secret in a huge game. I remember taking time off work when OoT came out. I seem to have a bunch of larger games in my steam library all left at about 8 or 10 hours, cos that's like a week of playing every night, and the feeling of me wasting my life is creeping in and putting a downer on everything. I'd like to play stuff like Nier Automata and Dark Souls but just feel like I shouldn't put time into those things. Maybe I should watch some letsplays like wot is hip these days.

I feel the same way. After about age 22 or so, playing games felt like a huge waste of my life, which makes no sense because I waste my time in many other ways that are less enjoyable. I used to think any game whose campaign was less than 10 hours was a waste of money. Now I actually prefer games that I can beat in just a few sittings. However, I have yet to find an indie game that I enjoy; I've regretted buying every one I have.

I also hate the learning curve of every game now. I don't want to read fifteen tutorials about all the different mechanics or character attributes that I'll forget if I don't play for a week or two. If the game isn't intuitive enough to pick up and play and figure out as I go, I'm not interested. This is prevalent in games across platforms, but seems especially so in PC games. I can't stand any more survival games with crafting.

I switched to PC about four years ago (although I played a combo of console and PC in the 90s and early 2000s), but I play quite a bit less on it because it feels like more of a chore to sit up straight at a keyboard and mouse, especially in single player games for some reason. I typically just play the same three or four multiplayer games on PC. I hate that I've been dumbed down to playing 5-15 minute matches of FPS instead of getting involved in a great single player. The last great single player games I got sucked into were Deus Ex: HR and Metroid: Other M (the story is an abomination, but I actually really enjoyed the gameplay).

Also, there's little need to upgrade GPU every year. I've started on a GTX 760 2GB in 2013, and I'm still using it. I just turn settings down if necessary.
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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 05 August 2017, 12:35:19 »
Console gaming has been below PC gaming since December 10th, 1993. There's simply nothing that consoles have going for them other than being cheap. It's like eating beef mince versus a steak.
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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #69 on: Sat, 05 August 2017, 14:57:42 »
Console gaming has been below PC gaming since December 10th, 1993. There's simply nothing that consoles have going for them other than being cheap. It's like eating beef mince versus a steak.

that's a really specific date.  Is that your birthday?

Not sure, but there is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(1993_video_game)

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Re: How many of you PC Gamerz have gone back to console?
« Reply #70 on: Sat, 05 August 2017, 18:07:07 »
Console gaming has been below PC gaming since December 10th, 1993. There's simply nothing that consoles have going for them other than being cheap. It's like eating beef mince versus a steak.

that's a really specific date.  Is that your birthday?

Not sure, but there is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(1993_video_game)
Correct. From the moment Doom was released, it's been consoles trying to keep up with PCs, rather than the other way around. Doom was the game that made PC gaming into a thing. After that, consoles have never had the upper hand, because they were always lagging behind. Just look at all the contemporary ports of the likes of Doom and Quake and all the other stuff. They were all rubbish, because the consoles had nowhere near the power of a PC. But take the opposite - PC ports of console games - and it was the PCs that outshone the boxes. All those Call of Duty games ran flawlessly on even the lowest-end PCs because they came from a years-old console that was weak even when it was released.

And that's not even counting the fact that a PC can do many more things than a console can, inherently.
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