Stocks are evil maybe

[pixelpusher]

As someone who has recently invested more in the stock market, it appears that every time Lord Emperor Trumpty Dumpty does something that could lead to people dying, the market has a banner day.  FYI in case you ever wonder who on earth would promote such an agenda.  Follow the money, ladies and lads.

[SpAmRaY]

Please take all your monies, put them in a mayonnaise jar and bury in the back yard.

MAGA

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[shadowrealmwarez]

With us killing the environment more and more, it might be good to have less people on the planet.

[Blaise170]

The human race needs to expand beyond our own planet if we ever want to survive long term anyways. Of course we have a bad habit of destroying things anyways...

[tp4tissue]

I'm slightly ashamed to say , I've placed rather large bets against people's health in developing markets, knowing the destructive path they're on..

[emenelopee]

It's not just Dumpty, it's any drama that can be monetized. And it being the US, anything can be justified in the name of profit.

"Gun stocks are rallying (as they usually do after a mass shooting)"

History shows that Sturm Ruger and American Outdoor Brands rise 1.6 percent and 2.2 percent, respectively, five days after a mass shooting, a CNBC study using Kensho found. The study looked at their performance following mass shootings dating back five years. (Photo: CNBC)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2018/02/15/gun-stocks-rallying-they-usually-do-after-mass-shooting/340456002/

[JP]

Not a bad idea to invest in defense companies that make cruise missiles.

[Findecanor]

With us killing the environment more and more, it might be good to have less people on the planet.

Yes, but how do we do that without there being chaos?
We don't want unrest like in Children of Men or A Handmaid's Tale.

The human race needs to expand beyond our own planet if we ever want to survive long term anyways.

In the very very long term, yes ... and very long long away. Not within our lifetimes, not within even a hundred generations from our lifetimes.

In our own solar system our own planet is the only viable planet to live on even if there will be thousands of years of terraforming. Earth actually has the most land of any planet in the solar system — yes, after the area of water has been subtracted. Mars is relatively small and does not have any magnetic field that would protect against "solar wind" radiating the inhabitants and blowing away any attempts at a breathable atmosphere.

[shadowrealmwarez]

With us killing the environment more and more, it might be good to have less people on the planet.

Yes, but how do we do that without there being chaos?
We don't want unrest like in Children of Men or A Handmaid's Tale.

There will always be unrest, with everyone having a camera in their pocket means anything anyone does can (usually does) lead to unrest, police arrest someone or use "unnecessary force" its all over the news within hours. People kill each other every day over drugs, money, and sometimes even less. In the US we have issues with many different drugs (including prescription drug abuse) but we also help save all the individuals who OD and such which costs thousands of dollars per person, we should do the bare minimum, let people make the choices they want and if it leads to their death then so be it.

[emenelopee]

With us killing the environment more and more, it might be good to have less people on the planet.

Yes, but how do we do that without there being chaos?
We don't want unrest like in Children of Men or A Handmaid's Tale.

There will always be unrest, with everyone having a camera in their pocket means anything anyone does can (usually does) lead to unrest, police arrest someone or use "unnecessary force" its all over the news within hours. People kill each other every day over drugs, money, and sometimes even less. In the US we have issues with many different drugs (including prescription drug abuse) but we also help save all the individuals who OD and such which costs thousands of dollars per person, we should do the bare minimum, let people make the choices they want and if it leads to their death then so be it.

It's hard to draw the line on when a choice is indeed personal choice and when it's more environmental.

As a Brit in the US, I can't see gun deaths as a necessary evil or a choice or anything like that - the whole concept of everyone being armed boggles the mind, whereas some (most?) Americans see it as the cost of doing business.

Ditto the opioid issue - is addiction a personal choice, particularly if it's been shown to be linked to overprescription and generally drug-company driven?

It's not that straightforward: a lot of US policy is driven through under the guise of "personal choice/bootstraps", and here you are with massive tax cuts for the highest earners and underfunded public services.

tldr: "personal choices" do not happen in a vacuum, you're constantly influenced by your environment.

[iri]

Mass shootings happen at least once a day in the USA. Do gun stocks raise all the time?

[emenelopee]

They've been rising steadily, especially during Obama's two terms. I can't find the article right now, but there's a decent graph somewhere showing the spikes. Also apparently the recent Florida shooting was the first in a long time that didn't spike so hard.

Generally, it's more the Big Ones that get massive news coverage - there are so many they have to be selective on which they milk to death on the news.

[fohat.digs]

Do gun stocks raise all the time?

Actually, gun sales plummeted when Trump was elected and at least one of the major manufacturers has declared bankruptcy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/02/26/trumps-election-actually-hurt-gun-manufacturers/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bb02214718a5

[tp4tissue]

They've been rising steadily, especially during Obama's two terms. I can't find the article right now, but there's a decent graph somewhere showing the spikes. Also apparently the recent Florida shooting was the first in a long time that didn't spike so hard.

Generally, it's more the Big Ones that get massive news coverage - there are so many they have to be selective on which they milk to death on the news.

Gun sales are down due to the rise in Video Games.

Guns are themselves pretty boring.

As entertainment, real guns are not time-cost effective vs Gaming.

The Average young murican' would rather stay inside to play halo than be among the mosquitoes in the woods.


Real gunz you have to put pants on, get in a car, drive somewhere , get into a bunker with ugly smelly people, then shoot only in one direction at a piece of paper.

Halo Days, you wake up, no pants necessary, grab a controller, don't even get out of bed,  minifridge with microwave on top right next to the bed.

Pull out frozen pizza/ bagel bites, pop into microwave. turn on xbox, ur good to go.. all day Call'o'duty.

 

[davkol]

They've been rising steadily, especially during Obama's two terms. I can't find the article right now, but there's a decent graph somewhere showing the spikes. Also apparently the recent Florida shooting was the first in a long time that didn't spike so hard.

Generally, it's more the Big Ones that get massive news coverage - there are so many they have to be selective on which they milk to death on the news.

Supposedly, people were getting all the guns they could under Obama administration, because NRA told them Hussein Obama was about to come and personally take all their guns at any moment…

[fohat.digs]

Supposedly, people were getting all the guns they could under Obama administration, because NRA told them Hussein Obama was about to come and personally take all their guns at any moment

That is pretty much it. The deplorables have proven themselves to be particularly ignorant and gullible. That is why Russian trolls and bots proved to be so effective.

 

[SpAmRaY]

Mass shootings happen at least once a day in the USA. Do gun stocks raise all the time?

...Russian trolls...

Hue, Hue, Hue

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[fohat.digs]

Hue, Hue, Hue

This thoroughly researched book by 2 highly respected writers is well worth the time it takes to read 300 pages:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36222733-russian-roulette

[iri]

Please stop researching me 

[Rob27shred]

With us killing the environment more and more, it might be good to have less people on the planet.

Yes, but how do we do that without there being chaos?
We don't want unrest like in Children of Men or A Handmaid's Tale.

TBH, I think that is a huge part of the Opiate crisis going on right now. I'm not one for conspiracy theories or tin foil hats, but after watching pain pills then H tear through my group of friends & narrowly escaping that curse myself it does raise a bunch of questions. I mean if you really think about it, nobody in the medical field or in big pharma could've honestly believed that prescribing ludicrous amounts of the most addictive drugs known to man for minor conditions wouldn't turn into an absolute train wreck. Also I find it kinda funny that the opioid crisis hit it's stride while we had our army in Afghanistan which happens to be the biggest & best source for raw opium in the world.

For awhile I thought it was all coincidence, until I found out that big pharma is now pulling the same **** with opiates/opioids in India now that the US & Canada are cracking down on them. Now don't get me wrong I don't think it is purposeful population control by our govts., but it is tantamount to that when a blind eye is turned to it long enough to get us in the mess we are now. Repeat the process that happened here in India & China then boom, population control without war or anyone to really point the finger at.

[Blaise170]

What's most unfortunate is that drug abuse disproportionately affects the poor (i.e. the people who can't afford to get help).

[shadowrealmwarez]

What's most unfortunate is that drug abuse disproportionately affects the poor (i.e. the people who can't afford to get help).

I find it interesting they can find ways to support their habits, but can't find a way to support themselves getting help.

[Blaise170]

Depends on the person's locale. The crisis is hitting the US heavily and it's hard to get help in the US because our healthcare system is so totally borked. A $60 hit of cocaine is a lot cheaper than:

Drug and alcohol rehab can cost from $2,000 to $25,000 or more depending on various factors. According to a 2016 report by the U.S. Department of Defense, rehab for opioid addiction costs about $6,552 per year for methadone-assisted treatment, $5,980 per year for buprenorphine-assisted treatment and $14,112 per year for naltrexone-assisted treatment.

[emenelopee]

With us killing the environment more and more, it might be good to have less people on the planet.

Yes, but how do we do that without there being chaos?
We don't want unrest like in Children of Men or A Handmaid's Tale.

TBH, I think that is a huge part of the Opiate crisis going on right now. I'm not one for conspiracy theories or tin foil hats, but after watching pain pills then H tear through my group of friends & narrowly escaping that curse myself it does raise a bunch of questions. I mean if you really think about it, nobody in the medical field or in big pharma could've honestly believed that prescribing ludicrous amounts of the most addictive drugs known to man for minor conditions wouldn't turn into an absolute train wreck. Also I find it kinda funny that the opioid crisis hit it's stride while we had our army in Afghanistan which happens to be the biggest & best source for raw opium in the world.

For awhile I thought it was all coincidence, until I found out that big pharma is now pulling the same **** with opiates/opioids in India now that the US & Canada are cracking down on them. Now don't get me wrong I don't think it is purposeful population control by our govts., but it is tantamount to that when a blind eye is turned to it long enough to get us in the mess we are now. Repeat the process that happened here in India & China then boom, population control without war or anyone to really point the finger at.

I don't think you then need to go as far as government conspiracy: All you need is the profit motive and minimal regulation to explain this. Healthcare lobbying is the number one lobbying going Oh in the US, and also the reason why healthcare is so ****ed.

[fohat.digs]

nobody in the medical field or in big pharma

Supply-side economics has been proven faulty time and again. Demand always drives every economic situation.

A certain proportion of the human race craves drugs and always has. Painting it with a veneer of respectability with doctors writing prescriptions (not just "permission" to use the drugs but actual "orders" to do so) and pharmacists filling them, at cheap and highly-subsidized prices, in brightly-lit, sanitary buildings, starts the process in an entirely clean and socially acceptable manner.

Where it goes from there is a wild card. Large numbers of people heal and go on with their lives. Big Pharma continues to make its money off the rest.