T5LA drama

[tp4tissue]

Okokokok.

We KNOW Drump is a pee  doh on epst1n files, and he killed epst1n.

Now,  If this gets dragged into public discourse again, and someone kills El0n, T5 will go through the roof. Now you got an Anti-drump Martyr.


The primary reason why T5LA will be protected at all cost (by the state), is because it's 1 of the few VERY LAST relevant manufacturing tech companies that America has.
Relative to "the Nation" as a whole,  it can not be allowed to fail, if it does, China makes all the cars, in Perpetuity.


You might think, Tp4, why not Rivian,  America does not have the labor force, OR the tech population required to build another T5LA.  The other ones simply won't scale.  The only way is if they part out T5LA (which) by itself represents several fortune500 companies smooshed together, then sold it to Rivian/Ford etc.  Which they're not likely to do. Possible but unlikely, because mechanically it's too time consuming, and China is full steam ahead the entire time with unlimited state budget.

China has already moved past T5LA into Dual type batteries, China can match/exceed anything mechanical/chemistry side of things, TSLA's only advantage is a slight, emphasis, slight edge, in AI.

Tp4 is seeing, the, buy the dip opportunity, buhhhh remember, Tp4 is not very smart.

#NOT investing Advice.

[fohat.digs]

I have no doubt that Epstein killed himself. His prospects for a pleasant retirement in the penitentiary were quite dim.

Parting out Tesla to a handful of American companies would make sense. The Muskrat has become toxic, probably for a long time, if not forever. And if he was actually smart he would stay out of the public eye - but he has a little self-control as Drumpf.

Renewable energy is essential, ****s to the oil industry need to take their money and be grateful for it for as along as it lasts - which will not be forever.

[tp4tissue]

Renewable energy is essential, ****s to the oil industry need to take their money and be grateful for it for as along as it lasts - which will not be forever.

Tp4 agrees with Fohat's environmental lean.

However, There is NO SUCH THING as renewable energy, in the current technological landscape. Everything for the forseeable future (minus an energy miracle, hypothetical),  is a Conversion of diesel/coal INTO electricity, with some up and down in terms of efficiency.

Electricity is then only 20-30% of our energy economy.

A huge portion of the OIL, goes into other derivatives,  OIL can NEVER be REPLACED within the 1000 years, bar-ing, MIRACLE. 

[Findecanor]

Bull****. Renewable energy exists. It works. Hydroelectric is the old classic type of renewable energy and it has been the backbone for a lot of energy systems for a century . Solar and wind are mature as energy sources.

The problem left is how to handle fluctuations in the energy grid, and that is the only niche left where oil is the best alternative.
What needs to be developed is energy storage.

[tp4tissue]

None of existing "renewable" tech is renewable.

In your example of Hydroelectric, Concrete, turbines, hydraulic labor, are all conversions from diesel.


What we have in terms of all existing green tech, are all INEFFICIENT conversions of coal/diesel/natural gas.

The concept really is that we've GREEN WASHED the process. Maybe some of these people had good intentions, but the reality is, NONE of it is genuinely renewable.

Solar, Wind, all of this stuff has to be rebuilt over time, the vast majority of machinery required in the loop, mining of materials, metals, silica, rare-earths, PLASTICS, all come from Fossil process. And understand that this is ONLY electricity, electricity is NOT GOOD FOR EVERYTHING. It's only 20-30% of our energy economy, what do you propose to do about the 70%.

Power Storage costs are also still currently astronomical, MAYBE MAYBE CHINA can do it over time and innovate to close the loop, but this is leaning towards "Miracle."


Most recent Swiss study on the subject, is, for 1st-generation electrical replacement, we need roughly 250,000 $ Billion Dollars (250Trillion).

NOT POSSIBLE.   Their conclusion is, right now, we're at 7000-10000kilowatt/hr per person in developed countries,  Realistically, we will have to go down to 2000.   But that is by far already a Exceeeeedingly optimistic estimate.  Because that 2000 would assume subsidized IMPORT materials/slave-labor/energy.

More likely, the majority of humanity will have to live like those in Indian Slums.  Swiss, these service based, dutch-diseased countries are most vulnerable because they can not produce any of their own goods. They will have the roughest transition.

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[fohat.digs]

Compared to the fossil fuels industry, renewable energy is not an eternal employment industry. Unlike the harvesting, refining, and consumption sub-industries that provide steady employment to millions of workers worldwide,

Generally, the colossal advantages of using nature: sun, wind, water, geothermal, etc, require major construction projects on the front end but require far less maintenance in perpetuity. In addition to the reduction in pollution, which is huge, the energy itself is "free" or - in reality - gotten for the price of maintenance but without the consumables.

[tp4tissue]

The price of maintenance is NON-trivial. Just to build out the 1st generation replacement is (almost certainly) mathematically impossible.

The only option is to reduce to slums lvl of energy usage.