Kinesis 360 clone from Aliexpress

[eyesonly]

I've noticed that there's a clone of the Kinesis 360 on Aliexpress - search for WK Kinesis there.

Well, a semi-clone. a "KINESIS Advantage 360 Flat Replacement Product".

Lots of differences to the real thing, of course. The usual hot-swap madness and if you order more than the basic kit it looks like it ships with a choice of bizarre keycap set and an 'unusual' little screen.

On Aliexpress there aren't ANY details on the types of keyswitches/keycaps. Velocifire does say the keycaps can be Cherry or SA and the default keyswitches are Leobog. I assume that unlike my old Kinesis Advantage KB500 all of the keycaps would be of uniform height.

The price I guess is roughly a third of a real Kinesis 360 if you take into account that by default these boards are wireless, which is an attraction. Scant details that I'm interested on the Aliexpress page make me very wary though!

What does everyone think?  )

[tp4tissue]

Tp4 remains unconvinced of the keyboard scoop, tried many times. Ergodox, Tented 45degrees is the ideal setup .

The scoop is designed for people who type from the wrist. An inelegant technique.  You really should type from the shoulders, your arms are precise enough to make palm travel movements much faster from the shoulder.

[derpdederp]

The scoop is designed for people who type from the wrist. An inelegant technique.  You really should type from the shoulders, your arms are precise enough to make palm travel movements much faster from the shoulder.

I've heard so many claims but no one has really tested them or proven them. How can you prove that. You can type "from the wrist" or "from the shoulder" on either by relaxing the part of your body you want to use less! I'm not even sold on ortholinear because as your hand opens it doesn't do it evenly; perhaps smaller keys closer to you and larger ones further and for the thumbs to increase accuracy. I don't know that it should be exactly concave, but flat doesn't seem optimal either. I prefer kinesis over ergodox because the thumbs are further from the rest of the fingers like a normal hand... So many keyboards try to give us a scrunched up hand default posture which also zero designers seem to be interested in discussing. And yes when I have the cash I will design one that is actually ergonomic. The default posture should be a positive exercise stress on your hands like the gym is on your body. Keyboads should not deform the hand and wrist but exercise them - and yes I believe it is possible but the overlap of genius physiologists and computer geeks is just very small - but not zero