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Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« on: Tue, 28 May 2013, 21:14:26 »
They are SOooooo not white...  :))

It's called Monroe-Bisque people....  gosh, next time I will just assume every reviewer is colorblind.

If you must put it with "white", it'd be close to Monterey white


But, most people's standard idea of "WHITE" it is not...

The whiter- pbt spacebar in the picture is the kbc thin originals..  It is actually blue/purple shifted, also not pure white.


That said, I'm quite ok with this color, very retro

I was very surprised when I opened the box... Excuse the dust


EDIT:

Ok, now we know of the EXISTENCE of Cobalt-white thick PBT, such as the vortex GB that Feng ran a while back.. though no blanks were available.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 00:20:27 »
So this guy was un muted again?
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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 00:27:24 »
Ha! Good to know. I'm thinking of getting a set of these.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 00:40:33 »
I like the fact that it isn't bleach white. Off white just seems more suitable for something fingers will frequently touch.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 00:48:28 »
I like the fact that it isn't bleach white. Off white just seems more suitable for something fingers will frequently touch.

Nothing wrong with the color itself, just an extremely inaccurate description. :D

Light Cream/tan colors are usually kind-of feminine though, like the curvy regal furniture at the boutiques...

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 00:52:30 »
So this guy was un muted again?

LOL, if you're trying to troll, your technique is outdated..

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 08:16:21 »
I like the fact that it isn't bleach white. Off white just seems more suitable for something fingers will frequently touch.

Nothing wrong with the color itself, just an extremely inaccurate description. :D

Light Cream/tan colors are usually kind-of feminine though, like the curvy regal furniture at the boutiques...

By the way, what keyboards (and switches) do you own? I'm really curious. :)

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 09:42:39 »
Looks nice nonetheless, IMO. Nice spacebar. I should figure out if I can make some metal spacebars for the Epsilon so that i can get new keysets for it without having a mismatched spacebar.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 09:49:06 »
Looks nice nonetheless, IMO. Nice spacebar. I should figure out if I can make some metal spacebars for the Epsilon so that i can get new keysets for it without having a mismatched spacebar.

easiest thing that you could do would be PLATING a plastic space bar :D  Everything else would require exotic tools. WHICH would cost more than special ordering

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 09:52:53 »
How would you go about plating plastic? I thought you could only plate other metal?

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 09:55:37 »
Oh? Something you don't know? What is going on here...?

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 10:03:08 »
How would you go about plating plastic? I thought you could only plate other metal?

well, I'm using plating as a general verb for glue some thin sheet metal to it... Then file and sand. :D

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 10:04:34 »
Hm, OK. I'll look into it. Solid metal seems like a good idea, since I am always eager to learn stuff.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 11:05:29 »
They are SOooooo not white...  :))

You've been under a rock? None of these "white" description in keyboards are true white. Same with Filco and Leopold cases, they're more like beige. The only keycaps I've seen that are true white are the PBT sets from KBT.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 11:11:11 »
They are SOooooo not white...  :))

You've been under a rock? None of these "white" description in keyboards are true white. Same with Filco and Leopold cases, they're more like beige. The only keycaps I've seen that are true white are the PBT sets from KBT.

like I says, the pbt from kbt is ALSO not white, it's violet/blue

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 11:39:59 »
Where did you get those? I think imsto caps are truly white.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 11:42:37 »
Where did you get those? I think imsto caps are truly white.

The imsto caps I have are not truely white. They're an off white or beige.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 13:28:39 »
Where did you get those? I think imsto caps are truly white.

There's only 1 factory making these thick caps i thought... and they don't make a snow-white, or haven't


GH members usually take terribad picrs in variably chaotic lighting, which is why I ask for descriptions, even then... They give terribad desciptions.. :D LOL

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:26:40 »
Hardcore white is the whitest I've seen ;D Ducky thin white PBT's come pretty close but are a colder shade
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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:28:56 »
Hardcore white is the whitest I've seen ;D Ducky thin white PBT's come pretty close but are a colder shade

ducky thin whites are the same as the kbt whites. violet/blue shifted.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 18:07:22 »
Where did you get those? I think imsto caps are truly white.

There's only 1 factory making these thick caps i thought... and they don't make a snow-white, or haven't


GH members usually take terribad picrs in variably chaotic lighting, which is why I ask for descriptions, even then... They give terribad desciptions.. :D LOL

lol!
we gotta start using hex color codes.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 19:25:41 »
Where did you get those? I think imsto caps are truly white.

There's only 1 factory making these thick caps i thought... and they don't make a snow-white, or haven't


GH members usually take terribad picrs in variably chaotic lighting, which is why I ask for descriptions, even then... They give terribad desciptions.. :D LOL

lol!
we gotta start using hex color codes.

Daylight pictures are the best we can do for now..  but then people mess with their camera settings....


Maybe we could all agree to use AUTO, and daylight..

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:07:03 »
I saw this thread buried last night with 0 responses and I was so proud of you GH, but I wake up to see it's still here. Son I am disappoint.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:14:09 »
I saw this thread buried last night with 0 responses and I was so proud of you GH, but I wake up to see it's still here. Son I am disappoint.

Eh.. r u trying to troll my thread? this has been purely informational

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:30:22 »
Imsto "white" caps is the one that's 2nd from the left. Compare that to the "white" from KBT PBT caps. Image quality or color accuracy isn't too accurate because this is just a screenshot from one of my non-public videos. It's not an original pic from a real camera since I did not take any. But color is relative to white balance of a camcorder/camera and calibration of your monitor anyways


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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:31:37 »
Imsto "white" caps is the one that's 2nd from the left. Compare that to the "white" from KBT PBT caps. Image quality or color accuracy isn't too accurate because this is just a screenshot from one of my non-public videos. But color is relative to white balance and calibration of your monitor anyways


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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:48:46 »
This reminds me of my "when yellow is not quite yellow" thread.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 21:54:43 »
Are these also noticeably off-white? 





(from one of the recent group buys, I believe.  Photos are from Originative and Feng's eBay listing).  Look to be creamy, but can never tell from photos, because so much depends on contrast and white balance.
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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:26:22 »
Are these also noticeably off-white? 

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(from one of the recent group buys, I believe.  Photos are from Originative and Feng's eBay listing).  Look to be creamy, but can never tell from photos, because so much depends on contrast and white balance.

Yes, those are exactly the ones... off white, beige / tan

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:58:30 »
These are pictures from quake4mhg.

Left we have Vortex Thick PBT.  Right we have Imsto Thick PBT.

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And yes the Imsto Thick PBT is a warmer off white.  Vortex Thick PBT is a bit of pale purple off white.  Filco is kind of reddish beige.  Not too sure about Leopold.  Thermaltake MEKA G1 Combat White is pretty close to pure white though.

But yeah by adding a bit of tint it will make the yellowing from UV/Dirt less obvious, which is smart really.  Just sucks for colour matching  :P

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:10:25 »
Oh good, Now we know for surezies, what's going on, thanks hyde.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:12:59 »
That set I linked on the previous page would be IMSTO PBT?
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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:16:37 »
That set I linked on the previous page would be IMSTO PBT?

Your link definitely looks beige to me... but We can never say for sure due to lighting....

But Feng was the one that had the vortex dyesub GB.. and those seem towards cobalt-white as Hyde has posted.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:21:37 »
They are referred to as "KBC", which would be IMSTO's stuff? 
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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:22:02 »
Oh how I want those, but the amount of sets that have 1.5 mods and all the goodies is none.

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:24:01 »
They are referred to as "KBC", which would be IMSTO's stuff? 

I thought imsto was "middle-man // Agent"   is he the producer?

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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:26:45 »
I don't know, but I remember reading that he has some association to a particular manufacturer. Maybe someone could correct me on that.
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Re: Ok, You know those "White" thick pbts?
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 21:11:34 »
They're probably all made from the same factory.  But I'm guessing Vortex sells their own batch and imsto sells his own batch.

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