Mechanical keyboard

[drynnn]

Hey, im buying my first mechanical keyboard, im going to use it for MMORPG such as WoW and FPS like bf3, css and so on.Cant decide between cherry mx brown,blue or red. I heard that double tapping is hard on blue ? 
 

[bazemk1979]

reds are found to be most acceptable between newcomers and people with seniority among keyboards, same goes for gamers and typist. Left you pm

[babyhands]

I have used and owned all three of those switches, and used all of them for gaming. Honestly, I think it is all personal preference. I dislike the reds, just because I don't like linear switches, and none of them really made a difference for me while gaming, and i game quite a lot

[csloan1218]

I just went to reds from a membrane board, I like it, although I haven't used any other switches yet.

[tauburn]

it amazes me that people are willing to sign up for a forum to find out info that can be searched for on google. but to answer your question, it is physically impossible to play games unless you have a linear switch. blues and browns are only double clickable if you are superman.

[ping111]

it amazes me that people are willing to sign up for a forum to find out info that can be searched for on google. but to answer your question, it is physically impossible to play games unless you have a linear switch. blues and browns are only double clickable if you are superman.

Or, if you're really gentle.  I can press one key at least four times a second on my brown but hovering my finger just over the bump, and pushing it just under.  If you slam your keys when you game, your problem.

[drynnn]

I guess i will go with reds..Any suggestions on which kb is good? Thinking of cm storm quickfire tk red

[csloan1218]

for a backlit keyboard like the quickfire, I would recommend the ducky shine 2 as an alternative.

check out some videos on youtube to compare the two.

[babyhands]

I guess i will go with reds..Any suggestions on which kb is good? Thinking of cm storm quickfire tk red

just buy my leopold , its higher quality than both boards and basically brand new

[Photekq]

it is physically impossible to play games unless you have a linear switch. blues and browns are only double clickable if you are superman.

That isn't true.

[Rule16]

Blues are only hard to double tap because the slider is not completely connected to the stem, any other cherry switch besides MX White (as in the west's white, not clears)
Diagram VS Browns

Double tapping with browns and clears, and any other fixed stem is definitely possible. So, If you want a tactile switch, get browns or clears.

it amazes me that people are willing to sign up for a forum to find out info that can be searched for on google. but to answer your question, it is physically impossible to play games unless you have a linear switch. blues and browns are only double clickable if you are superman.

Completely untrue, BROWNS are very easy to double tap, unless you're full on retard.

[tp4tissue]

Mechanical keyboard has NOTHING to do with GAMING....

Yes, manufacturers took advantage of the gaming crowd, usually populated by kids, who'll believe anything..

The only Proven advantage to mechanical is reduced fatigue.

[Photekq]

Mechanical keyboard has NOTHING to do with GAMING....

Yes, manufacturers took advantage of the gaming crowd, usually populated by kids, who'll believe anything..

The only Proven advantage to mechanical is reduced fatigue.

+1

[Abacus1234]

Mechanical keyboard has NOTHING to do with GAMING....

Yes, manufacturers took advantage of the gaming crowd, usually populated by kids, who'll believe anything..

The only Proven advantage to mechanical is reduced fatigue.

How is reducing fatigue not an advantage in gaming? I'm not saying a good keyboard will make a bad player good, but if your equipment is more comfortable to use, you'll perform better. I can also double tap faster on mechanical, for what it's worth. I don't think anyone seriously believes that a mechanical keyboard is going to completely revolutionize their game immediately.

[Photekq]

Mechanical keyboard has NOTHING to do with GAMING....

Yes, manufacturers took advantage of the gaming crowd, usually populated by kids, who'll believe anything..

The only Proven advantage to mechanical is reduced fatigue.

How is reducing fatigue not an advantage in gaming? I'm not saying a good keyboard will make a bad player good, but if your equipment is more comfortable to use, you'll perform better. I can also double tap faster on mechanical, for what it's worth. I don't think anyone seriously believes that a mechanical keyboard is going to completely revolutionize their game immediately.

I think that's what TP meant. Of course being more comfortable is a huge plus, but it doesn't mean you actually perform better (unless you're playing for a long, long time in one sitting).

[Rule16]

Mechanical keyboard has NOTHING to do with GAMING....

Yes, manufacturers took advantage of the gaming crowd, usually populated by kids, who'll believe anything..

The only Proven advantage to mechanical is reduced fatigue.

Thats the only "proven" advantage to typing as well... You type faster aswell, sure, but hmm wouldn't that translate right over to gaming?

[Photekq]

Mechanical keyboard has NOTHING to do with GAMING....

Yes, manufacturers took advantage of the gaming crowd, usually populated by kids, who'll believe anything..

The only Proven advantage to mechanical is reduced fatigue.

Thats the only "proven" advantage to typing as well... You type faster aswell, sure, but hmm wouldn't that translate right over to gaming?

No it doesn't, or at least not in my experience. I am an avid FPS and dota player, and a mechanical board hasn't improve my performance in either. Of course, I do find it far, far more pleasant to use.

[tauburn]

Mechanical keyboard has NOTHING to do with GAMING....

Yes, manufacturers took advantage of the gaming crowd, usually populated by kids, who'll believe anything..

The only Proven advantage to mechanical is reduced fatigue.

How is reducing fatigue not an advantage in gaming? I'm not saying a good keyboard will make a bad player good, but if your equipment is more comfortable to use, you'll perform better. I can also double tap faster on mechanical, for what it's worth. I don't think anyone seriously believes that a mechanical keyboard is going to completely revolutionize their game immediately.

lol because any fatigue you'd have from gaming is like the slightest bit imaginable. unless you're a fat neckbeard who doesnt walk anywhere other than the fridge and bathroom, you're not going to feel tired from gaming

[Abacus1234]

I don't think that is a very good argument. You sort of focused in on the word "fatigue" but I think it has more to do with a lower actuation force and comfort. If you're more comfortable, you're less distracted, which will help everything you do on the keyboard, from typing to gaming. I can tell you that when I game on a laptop I play worse. Partly that has to do with not being used to it, and sure over time I would adjust. But I think it would never feel quite as natural.

The other reason I think keyboards are relevant for gamers is that they are simply more durable than regular keyboards. I have mechanicals that have literally thousands of hours of typing time on them that still feel almost the same as new. Since gamers tend to use their keyboards for both work and play, it makes sense to have something more durable. The reasons mechanicals are better for gamers are the same reasons they are better for anyone. Why is it so hard to imagine that a keyboard which will increase your WPM will also have some very marginal improvement in how you perform in a game?

[tp4tissue]

I don't think that is a very good argument. You sort of focused in on the word "fatigue" but I think it has more to do with a lower actuation force and comfort. If you're more comfortable, you're less distracted, which will help everything you do on the keyboard, from typing to gaming. I can tell you that when I game on a laptop I play worse. Partly that has to do with not being used to it, and sure over time I would adjust. But I think it would never feel quite as natural.

The other reason I think keyboards are relevant for gamers is that they are simply more durable than regular keyboards. I have mechanicals that have literally thousands of hours of typing time on them that still feel almost the same as new. Since gamers tend to use their keyboards for both work and play, it makes sense to have something more durable. The reasons mechanicals are better for gamers are the same reasons they are better for anyone. Why is it so hard to imagine that a keyboard which will increase your WPM will also have some very marginal improvement in how you perform in a game?

A mechanical keyboard will NOT increase your WPM...   sean wrona is 200wpm on ANYTHING.. hand him 2 sticks not even connected to a computer, he'll still somehow conjure 200wpm on typeracer.

[PointyFox]

Mechanical keyboard has NOTHING to do with GAMING....

Yes, manufacturers took advantage of the gaming crowd, usually populated by kids, who'll believe anything..

The only Proven advantage to mechanical is reduced fatigue.

It hasn't been proven to reduce fatigue.

[Truday]

 ) @ Photekq. Tauburn has a point... so many kids/lazy people come here asking, "ok so plz tell me wat the bestest gaming keyboard is plz. I heard blues are best cuz they r clicky but cant double tap or redz bcuz dey are lyke typing on boobz kthx." Like c'mon people. There is a search button for this entire forum which has a **** load of threads and posts regarding the different types of switches in relation to gaming.  I'm sure most members here get tired of reading the same thread everyday asking which mech board is the best for gaming. Overclock.net @ http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide is a great guide to Cherry MX switches albeit a tad dated. Stop being lazy and use Google. I started out as a dummy not knowing anything about mechanical keyboards and bought a Razer BWU because I thought it was cool and was top of the line and my buddy had one. After much research/reading, trial and error, and way too much money spent on RMAing keyboards let alone coming down with all too common mechanical keyboard frenzy fever , I know what I like personally and what works for me when I'm gaming, browsing the net, or just adding it to my collection. My best advice is to look for QUALITY mechanical keyboards like a CM QFR, Filco, or for flashy lights a Ducky Shine II. It'll save you a lot of money and headaches. Good luck.

-Truday

[Photekq]

) @ Photekq. Tauburn has a point... so many kids/lazy people come here asking, "ok so plz tell me wat the bestest gaming keyboard is plz. I heard blues are best cuz they r clicky but cant double tap or redz bcuz dey are lyke typing on boobz kthx." Like c'mon people. There is a search button for this entire forum which has a **** load of threads and posts regarding the different types of switches in relation to gaming.  I'm sure most members here get tired of reading the same thread everyday asking which mech board is the best for gaming. Overclock.net @ http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide is a great guide to Cherry MX switches albeit a tad dated. Stop being lazy and use Google. I started out as a dummy not knowing anything about mechanical keyboards and bought a Razer BWU because I thought it was cool and was top of the line and my buddy had one. After much research/reading, trial and error, and way too much money spent on RMAing keyboards let alone coming down with all too common mechanical keyboard frenzy fever , I know what I like personally and what works for me when I'm gaming, browsing the net, or just adding it to my collection. My best advice is to look for QUALITY mechanical keyboards like a CM QFR, Filco, or for flashy lights a Ducky Shine II. It'll save you a lot of money and headaches. Good luck.

-Truday

What Tauburn said about googling was true, but what he said about the switches wasn't. I agree people should google before coming here and asking.

[drynnn]

) @ Photekq. Tauburn has a point... so many kids/lazy people come here asking, "ok so plz tell me wat the bestest gaming keyboard is plz. I heard blues are best cuz they r clicky but cant double tap or redz bcuz dey are lyke typing on boobz kthx." Like c'mon people. There is a search button for this entire forum which has a **** load of threads and posts regarding the different types of switches in relation to gaming.  I'm sure most members here get tired of reading the same thread everyday asking which mech board is the best for gaming. Overclock.net @ http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide is a great guide to Cherry MX switches albeit a tad dated. Stop being lazy and use Google. I started out as a dummy not knowing anything about mechanical keyboards and bought a Razer BWU because I thought it was cool and was top of the line and my buddy had one. After much research/reading, trial and error, and way too much money spent on RMAing keyboards let alone coming down with all too common mechanical keyboard frenzy fever , I know what I like personally and what works for me when I'm gaming, browsing the net, or just adding it to my collection. My best advice is to look for QUALITY mechanical keyboards like a CM QFR, Filco, or for flashy lights a Ducky Shine II. It'll save you a lot of money and headaches. Good luck.

-Truday

What Tauburn said about googling was true, but what he said about the switches wasn't. I agree people should google before coming here and asking.

I have googled, alot.Just dont understand a **** cuz im new to mech keyboards

[fohat.digs]

Good to be reminded that we all have opinions.

But, you might as well ask "which shoes should I buy?"

or even "which car is best for a mix of city and highway driving?"

There are half a dozen major common types of switches and most have sub-categories. Starting with Cherries, tactile for typists or linear for gamers, is as good a place as any, and don't get rid of something immediately after getting something else that you think is "better" on first impression .....

[tauburn]

) @ Photekq. Tauburn has a point... so many kids/lazy people come here asking, "ok so plz tell me wat the bestest gaming keyboard is plz. I heard blues are best cuz they r clicky but cant double tap or redz bcuz dey are lyke typing on boobz kthx." Like c'mon people. There is a search button for this entire forum which has a **** load of threads and posts regarding the different types of switches in relation to gaming.  I'm sure most members here get tired of reading the same thread everyday asking which mech board is the best for gaming. Overclock.net @ http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide is a great guide to Cherry MX switches albeit a tad dated. Stop being lazy and use Google. I started out as a dummy not knowing anything about mechanical keyboards and bought a Razer BWU because I thought it was cool and was top of the line and my buddy had one. After much research/reading, trial and error, and way too much money spent on RMAing keyboards let alone coming down with all too common mechanical keyboard frenzy fever , I know what I like personally and what works for me when I'm gaming, browsing the net, or just adding it to my collection. My best advice is to look for QUALITY mechanical keyboards like a CM QFR, Filco, or for flashy lights a Ducky Shine II. It'll save you a lot of money and headaches. Good luck.

-Truday

What Tauburn said about googling was true, but what he said about the switches wasn't. I agree people should google before coming here and asking.

It's truly sad that you couldn't tell i was being sarcastic about the switches.

[Photekq]

It's truly sad that you couldn't tell i was being sarcastic about the switches.

It's hard to detect sarcasm over the internet, especially when there are plenty of idiots out there who think certain switches (especially blues) are unusable for gaming.

[tauburn]

It's truly sad that you couldn't tell i was being sarcastic about the switches.

It's hard to detect sarcasm over the internet, especially when there are plenty of idiots out there who think certain switches (especially blues) are unusable for gaming.

i thought "physically impossible" would give it away but yh m8 i got u

[drynnn]

What do you think about cm storm quickfire tk guys?

[tauburn]

What do you think about cm storm quickfire tk guys?

its great. get it.

[babyhands]

So basically for the OP, the general consensus is: its personal preference. Some people like some switches, some people like other switches. Pro games use all types of switches and you aren't a pro, so get what feels best.

[Abacus1234]

People on this forum sure are elitist. Why is it so offensive if someone wants a good suggestion for a gaming keyboard? Why do you act like all gamers who want mechanical keyboards type like idiots? I don't understand that at all.

[fohat.digs]

I thought that my suggestion was very egalitarian.

Most people who engage in a hobby (ie subscribers to this forum) do it because they like to experiment and learn. I doubt that anybody here will say that the first keyboard he/she got is/was the best one they ever had.

Really, it is more like the drunken sailor's walk for a lot of us.

[tauburn]

People on this forum sure are elitist. Why is it so offensive if someone wants a good suggestion for a gaming keyboard? Why do you act like all gamers who want mechanical keyboards type like idiots? I don't understand that at all.

because there are a hundred of this same thread and every question he asked could be obtained from using google.

[Abacus1234]

People on this forum sure are elitist. Why is it so offensive if someone wants a good suggestion for a gaming keyboard? Why do you act like all gamers who want mechanical keyboards type like idiots? I don't understand that at all.

because there are a hundred of this same thread and every question he asked could be obtained from using google.

Somehow that still doesn't sound like a great reason to be a jerk to a newcomer.

[tauburn]

People on this forum sure are elitist. Why is it so offensive if someone wants a good suggestion for a gaming keyboard? Why do you act like all gamers who want mechanical keyboards type like idiots? I don't understand that at all.

because there are a hundred of this same thread and every question he asked could be obtained from using google.

Somehow that still doesn't sound like a great reason to be a jerk to a newcomer.

it's just common sense.  theres a searchbar at the top of the site and probably a google search bar at the top of his browser..

[csloan1218]

I'm new here and all my google research led me to this site, as I'm sure most of the people new here have in common. I'm sure some my questions were inane and annoying, but I got the answers I was looking for and got the best board to suit my needs. So I got my board and found a great (if not somewhat neurotic) community, its a win-win for me.

However, I think constantly directing people to google kinda defeats the purpose of a community like this. I would suggest using the search feature for this site, just not to clutter the board with reposts and spend some time there reading.

[tauburn]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0

[Rule16]

It's truly sad that you couldn't tell i was being sarcastic about the switches.

It's hard to detect sarcasm over the internet, especially when there are plenty of idiots out there who think certain switches (especially blues) are unusable for gaming.

Its not that they're unusable, don't get me wrong, its just a bit more difficult because they're inconsistent. Let me stress the "a bit" in that sentence, ffs as long as a keyboard has 6kro or more, its fine for me, and I'm pretty competitive. It can be any switch really, its just the fact that I don't enjoy gaming on a rubber dome, so I use mechanical keyboards. Just like I don't enjoy that blues are inconsistent ( and feel linear to me, and click noise sounds artificial/annoying ) so I don't use them either.

[PointyFox]

It's truly sad that you couldn't tell i was being sarcastic about the switches.

It's hard to detect sarcasm over the internet, especially when there are plenty of idiots out there who think certain switches (especially blues) are unusable for gaming.

Its not that they're unusable, don't get me wrong, its just a bit more difficult because they're inconsistent. Let me stress the "a bit" in that sentence, ffs as long as a keyboard has 6kro or more, its fine for me, and I'm pretty competitive. It can be any switch really, its just the fact that I don't enjoy gaming on a rubber dome, so I use mechanical keyboards. Just like I don't enjoy that blues are inconsistent ( and feel linear to me, and click noise sounds artificial/annoying ) so I don't use them either.

Blues are more consistent than brown and linear since the click corresponds to actuation.  The other keys lack that. The bump comes before the actuation of browns and there is no way to tell with linears.  I guess the most "inconsistent" part about blues is that the reset point is above the actuation point, and there isn't much feedback to tell if it has been reset besides a slight change in rebound force.

[Rule16]

It's truly sad that you couldn't tell i was being sarcastic about the switches.

It's hard to detect sarcasm over the internet, especially when there are plenty of idiots out there who think certain switches (especially blues) are unusable for gaming.

Its not that they're unusable, don't get me wrong, its just a bit more difficult because they're inconsistent. Let me stress the "a bit" in that sentence, ffs as long as a keyboard has 6kro or more, its fine for me, and I'm pretty competitive. It can be any switch really, its just the fact that I don't enjoy gaming on a rubber dome, so I use mechanical keyboards. Just like I don't enjoy that blues are inconsistent ( and feel linear to me, and click noise sounds artificial/annoying ) so I don't use them either.

I guess the most "inconsistent" part about blues is that the reset point is above the actuation point, and there isn't much feedback to tell if it has been reset besides a slight change in rebound force.

That's what I meant, and I don't use linear switches. I'm thinking about getting blacks, soon though... But honestly I've been all over the place in the past couple months on what I wanted to buy.