List of Pro Gamer Keyboards

[tp4tissue]

^ Whether it's 'Riding actuation points' or jumping back and forth between keys.  How can 'you people' argue that a more consistent actuation point is irrelevant?

TP4 -- are you a pro SC2 gamer - yes or no?

i don't usually agree with tp4 as i think he trolololo majority of the time, but yeah this is marketing drive frankly
OP did the same post on his Mechkey FB page.

Also agree with tp4 that keyboards don't make you a better gamer, case is so many pro korean SC2 players use the Sammy dt-35.  A cheap rubber dome keyboard.

Lol @ this 'marketing drive'.  Too many conspiracy theorists on this forum. Posting the same question on GH and FB is somehow additional evidence that this isn't a sincere question that I would like the community's help in answering?  4 pages of responses in a few days must mean some one is interested in the topic... Next time I post outside Vendor Forums I'll be sure to include a coupon code so I can live up to the stereotype lol

Good point about Sammy dt-35!  I did not know that.

When you make the claim Riding Actuation points.. This is very a very specific motion..  You further claim this is an advantage..

There is no documented reference for this.

I do not draw from my gaming experience in deliberation of the above claim...

I draw from my attempt at fast typing, by keystroke count is far greater than any video game situation..

[fl0w3n]

Hmm... today I learned that there's a TKL Razer Black Widow.

[missalaire]

Hmm... today I learned that there's a TKL Razer Black Widow.

Not sure if srs.

[fl0w3n]

Yup, definitely didn't know that there was one.

I received a Black Widow Ultimate as a package deal when I traded some computer parts, and didn't like it much.  Stock keycaps were gross, had weird feeling construction, wayyyy too big of a cable, and just too big overall.

I'd consider trying out the TKL model...

[IPT]

oh god no.. not this... omg...

MECHANICAL KEYBOARDS MAKE NO DIFFERENCE IN GAMING PERFORMANCE....

I don't think the point of this thread is to equate gaming performance to a particular keyboard, but rather see how effective gaming-oriented keyboard brands' (Razer, Tt, etc) marketing is.

Not surprised you didn't think deeper on it though...

No, it is you who is shallow minded and a dummy.

ShakeR the op's primary concern is not keyboards, he primarily cares about selling them... This is why this thread is a thinly veiled advertisement campaign...

I do think ShakeR is a good guy overall, but even then he should not be doing this....

I'm not against advertising, as long as your claims are true...  but to tie better keyboard to better performance in gaming is corruption...

1) A little harsh on Jabar.

2)  Not sure what I would be 'thinly advertising' since our bread and butter is Ducky and they sponsor zero pro gamers last I checked.

I actually find this interesting as I personally competed in some pro gaming tournaments myself when I was younger.  It is intriguing to me which models (especially those sponsored by brands with multiple switch types or have no sponsors at all) the pros prefer.

Unless you are a pro gamer, you cannot claim that better hardware makes no difference on performance.  Can Stephano crank out 400+ APM on a Logitech rubber dome?  Maybe... but it sure as hell wouldn't be as easy as Cherry Reds.  We're not talking about polling rates here... Riding the actuation point like some of these guys do is an incredibly rare / hard to develop skill.  I'm not sure what you find so outlandish about this claim.

b4 signing with EG and EG changing sponsorship from Steelseries to Razer, stephano used a Logitech K120

pretty sure he also uses either MX Browns or MX Blues

[dndlmx]

Hmm... today I learned that there's a TKL Razer Black Widow.

I also didn't know. I'm currently in the market for a "gaming" keyboard.  It's not backlit like original BW, and the only abundant version seems to be MX Blue. But it does look decent (matte).

Or I could just go with Ducky, this backlit Poker 2 doesn't seem to be coming soon.

[exousia7]

daaaaaaang Innovation has his name printed on his keyboard???

[davkol]

Grubby's Grubby with a backlit tenkeyless? Is that Ducky Shine?

[tns]

Looks like B4 uses as well RF 10th anniversary

Looks like AZUBU zergs don't like Razer though

[exousia7]

Grubby's Grubby with a backlit tenkeyless? Is that Ducky Shine?

Yes, Grubby uses Ducky 9087 Shine 2 with MX brown switches. The lights in the pic and his stream look white, but one of the mods in his chat said they were blue.....

[knotra]

I'm a huge Starcraft fan, and I know likely every PC pro gamer uses a mechanical keyboard.  However, as hard as I strain to see in some streams, it's often hard to tell their exact model.

Anyone know the exact model keyboard used by any PC pro gamers?

I'll start it off...

WhiteRa (Starcraft 2) -- Tt eSPORTS MEKA G1 w/ Black MX (not sure if modified)

not sure if anyone said this yet. but White-Ra recently switched to using the TT eSPORTS MEKA G1 Prime Edition with Browns

[esoomenona]

The lack of any G81 boards on this list is surprising.

[meiosis]

Keyboards really do not matter, I hope I speak from a fair point of view.

But I got to GM Protoss on NA and M Protoss in Kr using a G105 Logitech keyboard ($30) Rubber dome membrane keyboard

Also Diamond 2 in LoL.

It's all about ingame knowledge and rhythm, can't buy your way in that easily.

Other than that:

I play too much video games and I need a life.

[Melchior]

Please. Mechanical Keyboards are better for gaming, and everything else.

My previous carbon-pad membrane board died a horrible slow death and 2 rows of keys would no longer work.

(Its hard to play when ONE of those rows includes the UP arrow...)

This failure mode is IMPOSSIBLE in a NKRO Mechanical switch keyboard.

Each key is matrix scanned individually - a carbon pad matrix can have whole rows/columns fail when it gets dirty or contaminated.

No to say a single key switch can't fail - but at least they can be individually repaired or replaced if damaged.

[Photoelectric]

Controllers can malfunction, and there are lots of shoddy quality mechanical keyboards out there too.  If you purchase a good quality rubber dome keyboard, it should not fail as you described.  I would call that a bad example.

[meiosis]

Please. Mechanical Keyboards are better for gaming, and everything else.

My previous carbon-pad membrane board died a horrible slow death and 2 rows of keys would no longer work.

(Its hard to play when ONE of those rows includes the UP arrow...)

This failure mode is IMPOSSIBLE in a NKRO Mechanical switch keyboard.

Each key is matrix scanned individually - a carbon pad matrix can have whole rows/columns fail when it gets dirty or contaminated.

No to say a single key switch can't fail - but at least they can be individually repaired or replaced if damaged.

The chances are so slim it's discernible. I doubt there is a correlation between keyboard and success. It's fun and sure, may as well have a fancy ass keyboard, but even in an equal match up with someone at the same skill level, it won't really impact anything.

As for a keyboard failing, my monitors usually fail before my keyboard makes a mistake. NKRO just means you aren't playing correctly, (RTS/Moba wise) in no situation are you actually slamming your face against your desk

[domoaligato]

The majority of this thread is based on rts and mmo's. I play counterstrike and I am not a pro by any stretch. But 6kro+ does help.

[meiosis]

The majority of this thread is based on rts and mmo's. I play counterstrike and I am not a pro by any stretch. But 6kro+ does help.

Yeah, what I don't get is how NKRO would help on any of these games. Isn't it humanly impossible to micromanage that fast? Except predisposition moves that go with a rhythm. I feel that the only time it really matters would be in street fighter or arena games such as that

[BucklingSpring]

Right - That's why elite gamers uses aluminum free deodorant because aluminum contamination reduce neurotransmitter speed and accuracy.

They also shave palm hairs to limit the risk of having some falling in the switches and interfering with actuation contacts.
 

At an olympic level, it maters how aerodynamic a persons clothes are. Even if it only makes a fraction of a second difference, the people are so good and so close in skill that .001 seconds means something.
The difference fancy keyboards and mice make gaming wise is that. It's shaving your arm hair to reduce drag. It helps, but not to the point it matters in most people.

[meiosis]

Right - That's why elite gamers uses aluminum free deodorant because aluminum contamination reduce neurotransmitter speed and accuracy.

They also shave palm hairs to limit the risk of having some falling in the switches and interfering with actuation contacts.
 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hair%20to%20grow%20on%20the%20palm%20of%20your%20hand

At an olympic level, it maters how aerodynamic a persons clothes are. Even if it only makes a fraction of a second difference, the people are so good and so close in skill that .001 seconds means something.
The difference fancy keyboards and mice make gaming wise is that. It's shaving your arm hair to reduce drag. It helps, but not to the point it matters in most people.

TIL: Pro-Gamers wear deodorant.

Neurotransmitters on the surface of skin? Did not realize that aluminum slowed bodily functions

[BucklingSpring]

The problem is not at the surface of the skin... The aluminum goes in the blood stream and ends up in the brain.
Like few other posters in this thread I mix science and humor. The bottom line is not to be taken seriously.

BUT - Aluminum contained in antiperspirants is no joke. It is toxic. It's a known carcinogen agent and also tied to Alzheimer.

TIL: Pro-Gamers wear deodorant.

Neurotransmitters on the surface of skin? Did not realize that aluminum slowed bodily functions

[meiosis]

had me interested there xD. Theres so many metals in our food everyday I'm sure our aluminum intake will eventually build up. But there are so many worse things

[kingsoul]

Gonna talk about SC2 because i'm following esport - and mainly RTS - since a very long time.

What i notice is that keyboards are really not the main equipment pro gamers worry about. Most of the time, their choice is based (forced ?) on sponsorship. I do agree if they would use mechanical keyboards, they would be more comfortable with (days playing, fingers health) BUT these guys have so many APM that their main focus is on APM efficiency, and not improve their speed - because they are already very fast, most of them.

They are certainly more worried about their mouse (weight, shape...) because of fast movements they have to do. Mousepads too. You'll see more pro gamer (or even just sub top players you know, not pro but good) with a "bad" keyboard than bad mouse/mousepad.

I don't believe NKRO is necessary, really. I feel 6KRO is more than enough. On SC2, that's quite simple, you won't press more than 3 keys AT THE SAME TIME (mb 4, but not more). But you will press a lot of keys 0.3 second each, something like that... For FPS, maybe you need more because moving already burns 2 keys, if you jump 1 more, if you wanna change weapon, 1 more and possibly more actions too...

[Melchior]

NKRO:

2/3/4 Player games on a SINGLE KEYBOARD.

Next up, you'd say nobody plays DOS games.

If this argument can be won, I just won it.

[meiosis]

NKRO:

2/3/4 Player games on a SINGLE KEYBOARD.

Next up, you'd say nobody plays DOS games.

If this argument can be won, I just won it.

Something just doesn't fit in my mind with 4 guys all with their hands on one keyboard

[mauri]

NKRO:

2/3/4 Player games on a SINGLE KEYBOARD.

Next up, you'd say nobody plays DOS games.

If this argument can be won, I just won it.

Something just doesn't fit in my mind with 4 guys all with their hands on one keyboard

Either you're too young or too old to remember.

[tns]

oh blue switches

edit:
doh I didn't noticed we already knew it was blues
http://imgur.com/a/ixDhR#0

[tns]

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