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Offline helloimlife

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is my hardware dis functional?

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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 27 January 2014, 05:11:46 »
vsync off?

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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 27 January 2014, 06:03:58 »
^^ This...

Unless your FPS is 1...

With vsync on, it waits for the monitor refresh to update the display, so the framerate will sync to the monitor refresh. That limits your maximium FPS to the current refresh rate (often 59 or 60). If your card renders slower than the refresh rate, it will drop accordingly.

My bet is your card can render faster then the refresh even in "very high" detail, so it stays around 60. Turn vsync off and you'll start to see how fast it can really render. This may cause visual "tearing", though, as the display is updated during the screen refresh.

I usually turn vsync off unless I start to notice tearing. If it gets bad, I turn vsync on. Depends on the game / application.
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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 27 January 2014, 07:37:03 »
I don't use vsync on any game i play because i was as high of fps as possible. Unless there is a vsync everything i use option on my graphics drivers or something that i have checked, i never use it.

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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 27 January 2014, 08:38:27 »
Is your PC ****?
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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 27 January 2014, 10:24:59 »
Is your PC ****?

Wow.. paicrai.. you are the master of internet-insensitivity... 


@ helloimlife... don't worry bout paicrai, he's got some rage in um'...  probably cuz he can't get any with the females, so he lashes out.. on the internet... LOL


but... yea... vsync may be enforced through the driver software nvidia/ati side rather than the game..


if you listed ur specs and the game ur playing... we could better help you diagnose.



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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 27 January 2014, 10:43:04 »
Is your PC ****?
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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:56:28 »
haha it's okay, i forgot i made this thread. the specs are amd radeon hd 6670, amd athlon ii x4 640, 4gb ram, 500gb hd. and the game is league of legends. I believe it does this on every game though, and my computer tends to lag really badly on everything it does. No viruses, No malware, if i have too many tabs open while having skype and itunes and league client everything tends to freeze quite often. Also, something that i've never been able to fix which might play a part in this, is i have to have my integrated nvidia drivers running and on at the same time as my amd, so i have 2 graphics adapters running at once that require 2 different drivers. This is because 1. i have 2 monitors, the video card i have can support 2 monitors but this is the strange part that i've never been able to solve and no one else has either.. If i disable my integrated video which is nvidia, whenever i restart my computer for updates or anything and turn it back on i now have no video. My computer thinks my amd drivers are corrupted or not installed and then it's a hassle to get them detected again. It's not even as simple as just re enabling the nvidia and restarting, i don't even know what i have to do to make it work again but i eventually get it working. This is why i find it more worth it to just have both running... This is honestly probably the source of my problem but for some reason if i disable that integrated it just ****s everything up.
« Last Edit: Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:58:00 by helloimlife »

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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 30 January 2014, 08:28:37 »
Don't run a browser while playing. They eat memory like nobodies business.

There is a framerate cap setting in the game. If you want to see a higher framerate, set it to "benchmark". That'll unlock the cap so you can see how fast your machine can really render.

Then set it back to 60. No need to render faster than your monitor refresh rate.
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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 30 January 2014, 08:31:52 »
Whether my monitor refresh rate is only 60 or not, there is so much visual lag in anything under 40 which makes my play so much worse. i would use benchmark whether my monitor refresh rate is 60 or not. But i'm sure it's already at benchmark, i will check when i'm ingame.
« Last Edit: Thu, 30 January 2014, 10:14:30 by helloimlife »

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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 30 January 2014, 09:04:12 »
Ah, I think I begin to understand what's going on now.. It's probably nothing to do with your rendering pipeline (graphics card, etc), but rather that the rest of your system is struggling to keep up. Will be hard diagnose without more info. Can just give some pointers to help performance.

Close everything else except the game.. not minimised, really closed. If you know enough about what processes are what, you can go into task manager and kill all the ones you know are not for the system or the game or other critical program.

What motherboard are you using? Which Antivirus package? What else is installed?

If you first uninstall both the nVidia and AMD graphics drivers, reboot, go into BIOS, disable the onboard GPU, set the PCIE card to be your Primary Display Adapter (or First Display Device), it should boot and then you can install the AMD graphics drivers again.

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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 30 January 2014, 10:14:12 »
Hmm, i've never been in my bios before so I might need help with that honestly, but that seems like the best option. It would most likely solve the whole not being able to disable onboard without everything ****ing up. Uh in total i have tera, starcraft 2, league of legends, osu, skype, itunes, steam but no steam games installed currently. And i have teamspeak, OBS (streaming software) chrome, and project64 (for zelda speedrunning). that's essentially everything. Although, i have 200~ itunes songs, and i have probably 500~ Osu songs/beatmaps. I have microsoft security essentials as my antivirus, before i used AVG but a friend told me security essentials is all i need and i never need to buy a full version of it. He also told me security essentials is a smaller program overall. Honestly, i don't know much about tuning up a computer and optimizing it, i don't know the most optimal anti viruses or malware scanners, etc etc. i know i can put a computer together with all of the parts infront of me but i have never handled a bios before. Where can i look at what motherboard i have? I'm sure there are only a handful of motherboards that have the CPU slot required for my cpu since it's so outdated. My cpu is amd athlon ii x4 640.

edit: i don't like closing everything while playing because i have skype up 24/7. I talk to alot of people haha. i also always listen to music when i play, i don't really have a problem with closing everything else but skype though.
« Last Edit: Thu, 30 January 2014, 10:18:13 by helloimlife »

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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 30 January 2014, 18:19:27 »
Um... ok hmmm... 

Normally I'd just suggest throwing money at the problem until it goes away.. but.... lets see...

6670, that should be enough for LOL,  so it's unlikely that it's the problem

HOWEVER...

the athlon x4 640,  this cpu has seriously hindered single thread performance, even compared to phenoms because it has less cache.

So... essentially, it's the worst line of cpu you could have for "GAMING", because game pipes are dependent on single threaded performance due to input sync and updates.


The solution is to either Overclock the CPU, or buy a new setup all together.


Check if your motherboard supports overclocking.

Look up maximum voltage... and beast it.

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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 31 January 2014, 08:29:35 »
ah okay, i know for a fact this cpu is far better than what i had in the past,  but i didn't know it was really bad for gaming. i don't have money to throw at it sadly but i'll look into oc'ing.

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Re: My FPS is always the same whether i'm on 'Very Low' or 'Very High' why?
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 31 January 2014, 10:12:17 »
ah okay, i know for a fact this cpu is far better than what i had in the past,  but i didn't know it was really bad for gaming. i don't have money to throw at it sadly but i'll look into oc'ing.

it's a perfectly good and fine cpu... it's good even for light overnight encodes for mobile video..

But "gaming" these days, requires a very specific trait in CPUs.


Overclocking modern CPUs generally net ~30-40% more performance..