paypal changes

[dorkvader]

And last but not least, you'll see some updates to our User Agreement that go into effect November 18, 2014. If you're interested in all the details, take a look at our Policy Updates Page. Here are the highlights:

• We're increasing the time for buyers to file merchandise disputes (Item Not Received and Significantly Not as Described) from 45 days to 180 days.
• We're extending buyer protection to include item not received claims for custom made products.
• Because PayPal Seller Protection and Buyer Protection policies may vary from country to country, we're adding language to clarify which country's policy applies when a seller makes a sale to a buyer outside of the U.S.

I think the increase from 45 days to 180 is a good move.

[paicrai]

and theyre not selling your dogs to russians for beastiality sex trade rings

[Belfong]

Niceeeee! Thanks PayPal!

[Puddsy]

I think I like these.

I misread the first one, I definitely like these.

[Sent]

Much needed change. 

[asdfjkl36]

My girlfriend mentioned this the other day.

Pretty great change.

[tp4tissue]

and theyre not selling your dogs to russians for beastiality sex trade rings

that totally is not a real thing..  russians have their won dogs..

[fohat.digs]

I think the increase from 45 days to 180 is a good move.

I disagree.

As someone who has sold more than I have bought, I have consequently been screwed by dishonest buyers more times than I have been helped when I had a legitimate complaint.

45 days is plenty of time. There is nothing, anywhere, that takes longer than a month and a half via any delivery service.

[Belfong]

International shipment does take that long, especially if customs come into the picture. But you are right, if this is a Conus only transaction, then the window is just too long for people to change their mind and file a claim.

[tjcaustin]

I think the increase from 45 days to 180 is a good move.

I disagree.

As someone who has sold more than I have bought, I have consequently been screwed by dishonest buyers more times than I have been helped when I had a legitimate complaint.

45 days is plenty of time. There is nothing, anywhere, that takes longer than a month and a half via any delivery service.

This is probably meant as much for rule change number 2 than normal transactions.  But I can see someone breaking what they bought within 180 days and then saying "item significantly different than described", too.  I would be unsurprised if there wasn't an escalation chain that would start based off of date received to help prevent that from being a real nuisance, though.

International shipment does take that long, especially if customs come into the picture. But you are right, if this is a Conus only transaction, then the window is just too long for people to change their mind and file a claim.

int'l claims could already be made within 180 days.

[fohat.digs]

But I can see someone breaking what they bought within 180 days and then saying "item significantly different than described", too. 

There are plenty of things that I could easily wear out in far less than 180 days of normal use.

[jsquared]

I think the increase from 45 days to 180 is a good move.

I disagree.

As someone who has sold more than I have bought, I have consequently been screwed by dishonest buyers more times than I have been helped when I had a legitimate complaint.

45 days is plenty of time. There is nothing, anywhere, that takes longer than a month and a half via any delivery service.

Agreed, I see a lot of buyers taking advantage of this in a system where they already have the advantage in any dispute.

[StylinGreymon]

As someone who commissions clothing and things that are made by order, and from artists  who have backlogs and such, I quite like this change.

I've never had anything sketchy happen, but considering the timescales I'm usually working with, only having 45 days to file a complaint was gonna lead to heartache eventually.