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Re: The Economic Collapse
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 03 June 2026, 13:27:38 »

chasing bad money with good.


How lucky we are to have a very stable genius at the helm.
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Re: The Economic Collapse
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 03 June 2026, 16:52:26 »

chasing bad money with good.


How lucky we are to have a very stable genius at the helm.



He really is the chosen 1,  he's saving the world by destroying the western economy.

You couldn't achieve this with the highest financial jurisprudence.  The greatest climate activist of all of Human History.

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Re: The Economic Collapse
« Reply #52 on: Sat, 06 June 2026, 10:40:25 »
Tp4 goes to the outside yea?

The outside people neither appreciate nor understand what's about to happen to them.

Latest Kpler projections, only 45% output will be operational in hormuz in the "Impossible" situation that the war ends tomorrow.


AFTER THAT,  oil will stay at $100+ INDEFINITELY.  (Current realworld price for PHYSICAL barrels of oil is $150-175) This is different from the futures market, that number is the future, which is discounted, it's not real oil.

Who will pay for repairs in the Gulf States, who will come up with the money,  who would INSURE reconstruction.

The FIRST replacement boat won't hit the water for 2-3 months after wars end, IF it even ends

The 'Muririikan oil reserve, which we've been SELLING on the open market to keep prices down, runs dry END OF JULY.


In all likelihood, geo-strategically Hormuz will never recover to 100%.


Without Petr0D0llr recycling,  'Muririrkan  stonks and MORE IMPORTANTLY,   BONDZ,   Go Pooooooof.

The entirety of Europe is already hitting the poor house, without oil, it might as well be the Stone Ages.

Without CHEAP energy access, they will DE-INDUSTRIALIZE, as not a single one of their industry is cost competitive.


They're hell bent on atkn' Rvssss 1a.    OK.... sure,  Rvsss just said, no more gas for Europe.   ,  Rvsss 1a also lining up Oresniks to TEST the Article5 resolve.

Ur00p were getting Hormuz gas before,  alot of that output Capacity has been blown up too, and repairs are in the 3-5 year ball park.


Imagine having to close a factory for 3-5 years. You think the owners can handle ANY interest payments with 0 revenue for 3-5 years? 


In principle, yea, everyone can go on vacation, as they eat at the breadline everyday and then back to their Tents at night.   This could be fun, you don't know, alot less showering, one would imagine.

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Re: The Economic Collapse
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 08 June 2026, 04:02:15 »
Full war has resumed,

It would seem that dmp did not have any realistic negotiations going on, despite all the apparent lying about it in the last few days, it was yet another stupid attempt at sucker-punch.


What "the wurl" is looking for at this point, is  SOME - Turning point.


Annnnnd,  it would seem that we're NO WHERE CLOSE to it.

Basically, at this point, ECONOMIC """ DEPRESSION """  has been locked in.



There is no political off ramp,  no military off ramp,  NO ECONOMIC off ramp.

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Re: The Economic Collapse
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 09 June 2026, 00:57:55 »
A sense of what's here and what's to come.. !!

Tragic America, by Theodore Dreiser (famous author of the fiction, An American Tragedy)

synopsis::: Non-fiction critique on the social-system in the Era of the Great Depression

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Re: The Economic Collapse
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 10 June 2026, 14:37:02 »
Tp4's seeing in all likelihood, world GDP 1.5-3% drop 2027.

No one has ever seen a post-growth world.

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Re: The Economic Collapse
« Reply #56 on: Sat, 13 June 2026, 07:20:14 »
There is no deal.  MOUs are not deals, anything like this between "Whole Countries" require "Treaties" that are ratified by the Senate w/ 2/3 majority.

Don't believe the hype. All that's happening is they're trying to quiet the markets to STEAL what's left of public funds, 401ks etc,  to pay for their failing STONKS bubble.

They're desperate to steal this money because it's readily obvious, that when you pull THIS MUCH ENERGY out of the economy, ontop of losing Geo-political control over the SOURCE of that energy, it means the total collapse of primacy and borrowing.

Borrowing is all that 'mruruika had, Debt was our only real export. 

The tech bubble is wholly DEPENDENT on energy imports.  Not only have we LOST the excess energy to fuel that bubble, we've also lost the CASH Injection (Petrodollar recycling) to FINANCE it.


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Re: The Economic Collapse
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 13 June 2026, 16:14:57 »
What may come to pass.
 
So, If the Murikuzns does a full TahyK0, leaves the mijd-ease, then the dollar system collapses,  the new world will be denominated in RMB.


That is probably not going to happen, regardless of which administration, racist or otherwise, they probably won't allow it.

What does that mean.. Wellllll..... you may think the economics FORCE them to pull a tay(ko, But geo-politically, they will probably become full pirates.


So, the double blockade, if 1rnt is not allowing oil, then the US blokad will ALSO be there indefinitely, 

But this costs FUEL, and enormous amounts resources,   WHO will bear the burden.


The US is probably looking at ur000p thinking, ur000p will not only pay for this war, numbers side of things, but ALSO supply their children (3-5 million soldiers) for the Front lines, most will again die on the beach.  This will be continuous, until the Nv(lr weapons tip, where we all probably die.



That's the only possible outcome if decision making is LEFT to the Oligarchs of each country. 


If you believe the people will have a say about it, Maybe, we could have a short civil war,  if the people come out on top, the 'murikam economy collapses totally, and from total bankruptcy, we balkanize and rebuild from scratch, < the fall of the american union >.
 
This is the less violent option of the 2.



Everything will miraculously be Fine scenario, well,  Unfortunately this is unlikely, because from both end of this, TO THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE, it is Existential.


Tp4 recommends either Moving to your NEAREST nv(lar weapons Big-Country, like Rvss, US, (haiNa.

ur00p is marked for Death by 'Murika, it will be sacrificed.



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Re: The Economic Collapse
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 15 June 2026, 07:43:44 »
Asssssuming the MOU holds.

Tp4 would say, 60/40, favoring holds.

The economic collapse,   on the surface, the bailout is already happening in full swing right now given the stock pumps.

But long run, we've destroyed roughly 15% of world energy production, they were literally blown up, it's done.   This effect will be far excess of 15%.

> 15% physical reduction (already locked, it's gone)
> 20-25% mechanical production "scaling loss"  a $1500 pc vs a $1200 pc,  Night and day difference in performance.
> Any conceivable repairs to oil/gas are 5+ years out. Do we think (the economy) can wait that long..
> 0% Confidence for middle-ezse investment, you might build a refinery in UAE last year, but WOULD YOU EVER AGAIN, now that you see what can happen in the region, when refineries are 20-30 year investments, and might not turn a profit until Year 15.
> 0% Confidence in safety,  if you were an Oil/Gas engineer, would you take your family and move there? you might a year ago, enjoy the brothels/drugs, but today, when NE moment now, bombs could be flying, and they hosed the airport, and people couldn't leave, with NO running water in the middle of a desert?
> Latest Conflict has proven, 'Murikn military technology is obsolete,  they offer 0 protection over the most <volatile> asset on the planet.  = STRANDED ASSETS.

> Stonks are unreliable, because we're in an identical DotCom Dark Fiber situation. Lots of "money" upfront, with NO-realistic-profit-prospective.
> Datacenters CONTRACTED have stalled and / or canceled
>> They run on energy we don't have, can't build.
>> (haiyNa sells the "same tokens." at  1/4 to 1/6th  the price, because of their Industrial Scale.
>> Scale is Everything.

> Locking out (haiyNa from buying western Semiconductor tooling
>> Sounds good right?
>> Stop their AI..
>> Except we forget, technology comes about by way of BRAIN POWER, there's nothing special about it. It's a commodity relative to any large population of humans.
>> East Asians in high tech 'Muririka companies form 15-30% of the Brain-Trust.
>> How come, Genetic Cognitive Superiority + Cultural affinity for education.

>> Official US Doctrine, we're GOING TO WAR with (hyNNA... Look it up, Land and Sea Battle.
>> Let's say you go to war with (hyNA, Kewl kewl kewl.
>>>> Every1 now h8s the yellow people, kewl kewl
>>>> Yellow people go home
>>>> What population can come in and replace these PHDs / Double PHDs, meatbags which took 30 years to train.
>>>> You think the yellow people will just stay around, when you're killing all the yellow people overseas?
>>>> You're going to offer all the koreans and japanese yellow people special Yellow people arm bands so they don't get accidentally racisted ? Hahahahha


>> Historical certainty, Every time US has refused (hyna a technology,
>> (haiNa built it themselves.
>>> Mechanically, we either accept inter-dependence, or we accept defeat by overwhelmingly superior MASS
>>> SCALING is everything, output scales exponentially.

>> Brain power comparison. Engineering graduates.

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Re: The Economic Collapse
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 15 June 2026, 07:55:38 »
Future Production Ecnomy.

Some problems.

The China (Machine) is already built, AND, It's hooked up to Rv55n' Nergy.


Our Western (Machine) is not yet built, AND, we Just blew up a huge chunk of its energy pipelines/ contracts / political handshakes.