Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?

[katushkin]

I think it depends what job you do. Workers on a production line would ALL be 4 armed if you could get them. Working in IT, I can't think how they would be more beneficial and they would probably spend a large amount of time doing nothing unless my brain could type and use a phone at the same.

Also I sleep on my front so that wouldn't be effected.

[ideus]

Are Octopuses more efficient than men?

[tp4tissue]

Are Octopuses more efficient than men?

They're more efficient underwater for sure...

Michael phelps is only 4.4mph underwater..

an Octopus can go as fast as 25 mph... 

[tp4tissue]

You know what'd be super interesting..  Octopus LANDSPEED  racing..   I'd watch that over turtle racing.

[xtrafrood]

Are Octopuses more efficient than men?

Yes.

[bazh]

Are Octopuses more efficient than men?

at least they don't go 2 trips

And they run underwater quite fast too

[noisyturtle]

How has no one brought up the main issue: With our current torso design the arms would have no 'resting state' and would therefore constantly be exerting energy while our bodies were upright causing constant fatigue.

One pair would have to come from our sholderblades, able to rest them over the shoulders and out of the way while not in use, freeing the lower pair to be used.

If you think about human physiology this makes the most sense for adaptation, since having the arms come from on high would allow for intricate work right in from of our faces. More suited to human adaptation, whereas a second pair of arms coming from the lower torso would have evolved from sheer workhorse adaptation.

I believe it would come down to having a weaker but more dexterous pair of arms from above our current set, or stronger force-centric arms below our current pair which also could cause potential fatigue.

[tp4tissue]

How has no one brought up the main issue: With our current torso design the arms would have no 'resting state' and would therefore constantly be exerting energy while our bodies were upright causing constant fatigue.

One pair would have to come from our sholderblades, able to rest them over the shoulders and out of the way while not in use, freeing the lower pair to be used.

If you think about human physiology this makes the most sense for adaptation, since having the arms come from on high would allow for intricate work right in from of our faces. More suited to human adaptation, whereas a second pair of arms coming from the lower torso would have evolved from sheer workhorse adaptation.

I believe it would come down to having a weaker but more dexterous pair of arms from above our current set, or stronger force-centric arms below our current pair which also could cause potential fatigue.

It'd probably be like a double shoulder,

We'd have a second set of clavicle and acromion which protrude from behind our current one.

Possibly a little lower or a little higher, doesn't matter, but it would still be hanging at rest.

[rowdy]

How has no one brought up the main issue: With our current torso design the arms would have no 'resting state' and would therefore constantly be exerting energy while our bodies were upright causing constant fatigue.

One pair would have to come from our sholderblades, able to rest them over the shoulders and out of the way while not in use, freeing the lower pair to be used.

If you think about human physiology this makes the most sense for adaptation, since having the arms come from on high would allow for intricate work right in from of our faces. More suited to human adaptation, whereas a second pair of arms coming from the lower torso would have evolved from sheer workhorse adaptation.

I believe it would come down to having a weaker but more dexterous pair of arms from above our current set, or stronger force-centric arms below our current pair which also could cause potential fatigue.

I was thinking that the existing shoulders would be wider, and then have a second set of shoulders underneath.

It could be possible to have just the two shoulders, and one pair of arms primarily front-focussed and another pair of arms primarily back-focussed, but you'd literally need a pair of eyes in the back of your head to make any real use of them.

[tacnificent]

You could just use a tray for all those you carry for breakfast couldn't you?

[tp4tissue]

As an American..   I would like to be able to hold 4 guns.. Quad wield.. pew pew.

[rowdy]

You could just use a tray for all those you carry for breakfast couldn't you?

Nice idea, but the distance from storage to table is about 2 metres, which is about 2 steps.  To involve a tray in the procedure would add another item to be carried there and back, plus loading and unloading times.

Actually I could probably stand in the middle of the floor, lean towards the kitchen counter to grab bowl, spoon and drink bottle, then lean the other way to put them on the table.  Except that would increase the possibility of dropping one or more of the items to an unacceptable level.  Plus that early in the morning I'd probably keep falling over which would add to even more delays.

[xondat]

As an American..   I would like to be able to hold 4 guns.. Quad wield.. pew pew.

you're American?

Surprised you didn't realise you can eat 2x quicker.

[rowdy]

As an American..   I would like to be able to hold 4 guns.. Quad wield.. pew pew.

you're American?

Surprised you didn't realise you can eat 2x quicker.

You'd still only have one mouth.

But you could queue up 4 spoonfuls of food at a time, instead of just two.

[tp4tissue]

As an American..   I would like to be able to hold 4 guns.. Quad wield.. pew pew.

you're American?

Surprised you didn't realise you can eat 2x quicker.

You'd still only have one mouth.

But you could queue up 4 spoonfuls of food at a time, instead of just two.

4 real cores,  with hyperthreading ,  = 8 spoonfulls.. 

[xtrafrood]

As an American..   I would like to be able to hold 4 guns.. Quad wield.. pew pew.

you're American?

Surprised you didn't realise you can eat 2x quicker.

You'd still only have one mouth.

But you could queue up 4 spoonfuls of food at a time, instead of just two.

4 real cores,  with hyperthreading ,  = 8 spoonfulls.. 

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44 real cores, with hyperthreading , = tp IoT army

[tp4tissue]

As an American..   I would like to be able to hold 4 guns.. Quad wield.. pew pew.

you're American?

Surprised you didn't realise you can eat 2x quicker.

You'd still only have one mouth.

But you could queue up 4 spoonfuls of food at a time, instead of just two.

4 real cores,  with hyperthreading ,  = 8 spoonfulls.. 

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44 real cores, with hyperthreading , = tp IoT army

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Tp4 only use abilities for good.

[rowdy]

We have hyper-threaded brains.

Left and right hemisphere.

amirite?

[xondat]

We have hyper-threaded brains.

Left and right hemisphere.

amirite?

So brains are just 1 core 2 threads?

[tp4tissue]

We have hyper-threaded brains.

Left and right hemisphere.

amirite?

So brains are just 1 core 2 threads?

Ummmmmmm,   we have 2 cores, 1 cpu, and the system bus is the Corpus callosum, the interconnect between brains..  or maybe the l2 cache is.. hrrrm not sure.

[bazh]

But can we agree that we have ****ty memories? Even our RAM crashes sometimes.

[xtrafrood]

But can we agree that we have ****ty memories? Even our RAM crashes sometimes.

Now that you mention it--a few minutes ago Chrome ate all my available memory and refused to give it back

[rowdy]

But can we agree that we have ****ty memories? Even our RAM crashes sometimes.

Now that you mention it--a few minutes ago Chrome ate all my available memory and refused to give it back

I've found Chrome release memory better that most other browsers.

But I use Firefox to browse GH as the smooth scrolling is better.

With one arm too!  Well, for most of the last two weeks anyway.

[xtrafrood]

But can we agree that we have ****ty memories? Even our RAM crashes sometimes.

Now that you mention it--a few minutes ago Chrome ate all my available memory and refused to give it back

I've found Chrome release memory better that most other browsers.

But I use Firefox to browse GH as the smooth scrolling is better.

With one arm too!  Well, for most of the last two weeks anyway.

I switched to Mint and Chromium. Seems to work pretty well. I learned a few display priority tweaks that smoothed out most of it  

[tp4tissue]

Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

• Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..

[rowdy]

Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

• Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..

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Using 4 soldering irons at once would be dangerous.  You'd need extra eyes to watch all the joints you are soldering.

Does anyone even use 2 soldering irons at once?

[tp4tissue]

Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

• Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..

Show Image

Using 4 soldering irons at once would be dangerous.  You'd need extra eyes to watch all the joints you are soldering.

Does anyone even use 2 soldering irons at once?

I've used 3 at a time, with only the 2 hands that I have..

2 in right hand like chopsticks, and one in the left.

[rowdy]

Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

• Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..

Show Image

Using 4 soldering irons at once would be dangerous.  You'd need extra eyes to watch all the joints you are soldering.

Does anyone even use 2 soldering irons at once?

I've used 3 at a time, with only the 2 hands that I have..

2 in right hand like chopsticks, and one in the left.

Wasn't that awkward?

Were you more productive that way, than you would have been using one at a time?

[tp4tissue]

Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

• Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..

Show Image

Using 4 soldering irons at once would be dangerous.  You'd need extra eyes to watch all the joints you are soldering.

Does anyone even use 2 soldering irons at once?

I've used 3 at a time, with only the 2 hands that I have..

2 in right hand like chopsticks, and one in the left.

Wasn't that awkward?

Were you more productive that way, than you would have been using one at a time?

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

[Moistgun]

Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

• Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..

Show Image

Using 4 soldering irons at once would be dangerous.  You'd need extra eyes to watch all the joints you are soldering.

Does anyone even use 2 soldering irons at once?

I've used 3 at a time, with only the 2 hands that I have..

2 in right hand like chopsticks, and one in the left.

Wasn't that awkward?

Were you more productive that way, than you would have been using one at a time?

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

Two irons in one hand?  Feet?

[rowdy]

Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

• Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..

Show Image

Using 4 soldering irons at once would be dangerous.  You'd need extra eyes to watch all the joints you are soldering.

Does anyone even use 2 soldering irons at once?

I've used 3 at a time, with only the 2 hands that I have..

2 in right hand like chopsticks, and one in the left.

Wasn't that awkward?

Were you more productive that way, than you would have been using one at a time?

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

[tp4tissue]

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

[rowdy]

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

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Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

[tp4tissue]

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

[xtrafrood]

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

I thought I saw a dolphin in that drawing. Is there a dolphin?

[rowdy]

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

Also your left arm seems way longer than your right arm.

[tp4tissue]

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

Also your left arm seems way longer than your right arm.

That's because given that photo's perspective my left arm is closer to the viewer,  therefore...... I drew it larger..

Tis' Rudimentary Watson, rudimentary

[rowdy]

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

Also your left arm seems way longer than your right arm.

That's because given that photo's perspective my left arm is closer to the viewer,  therefore...... I drew it larger..

Tis' Rudimentary Watson, rudimentary

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Actually I did take that into account.

Allowing for perspective, your left arm still seems longer.

[tp4tissue]

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

Also your left arm seems way longer than your right arm.

That's because given that photo's perspective my left arm is closer to the viewer,  therefore...... I drew it larger..

Tis' Rudimentary Watson, rudimentary

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Actually I did take that into account.

Allowing for perspective, your left arm still seems longer.

But did you also take into account lens distortion..

[rowdy]

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

Also your left arm seems way longer than your right arm.

That's because given that photo's perspective my left arm is closer to the viewer,  therefore...... I drew it larger..

Tis' Rudimentary Watson, rudimentary

Show Image

Actually I did take that into account.

Allowing for perspective, your left arm still seems longer.

But did you also take into account lens distortion..

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What lens?

[tp4tissue]

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

Also your left arm seems way longer than your right arm.

That's because given that photo's perspective my left arm is closer to the viewer,  therefore...... I drew it larger..

Tis' Rudimentary Watson, rudimentary

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Actually I did take that into account.

Allowing for perspective, your left arm still seems longer.

But did you also take into account lens distortion..

Show Image

What lens?

Have compensated for the lens as viewed through a human eye (which has a lens_

That is the correct length as it should be..