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Offline Maledicted

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Re: What other hobbies consume your time?
« Reply #100 on: Tue, 05 May 2020, 22:58:20 »
I've always wanted one of these for home defense. CZ Scorpion Evo 3

And a Dragunov 'cause they look pretty. The P90 is very cool, but without a box mag and bullpup stock it's pointless to own.

Those new Scorpions are great. For PCCs, I would probably want to SBR one of the newly imported semi auto MP5s myself, since they're amongst the softest shooting 9mm SMGs ever designed, partly due to having a locked breech. Otherwise I would want something in .45, and a suppressor for it, though I don't know if a locked breech PCC in .45 with a threaded barrel is even commercially available.

Dragunovs are awesome, even if they're not particularly accurate. Good luck getting one though, those things aren't cheap. Is there some difference in stock between the original P90 and PS90? I hadn't heard of one, and wouldn't see any need for one. Because of arbitrary U.S. law, the important thing is the barrel length, so the PS90 has a stupidly long barrel for compliance without registering it as an SBR. It does have a box magazine, just not a traditional one. Most of the weird bits are part of the feed system in the gun. I think the magazine may be the best part of that design. They're really cool, but they're still just another blowback bullpup chambered in an expensive meme cartridge though.

If you like bullpups, you should look at some of the cool stocks a few manufacturers make for SKS rifles, and the Desert Tech MDR (probably the most practical bullpup on the market). The FAMAS, of all things, is even better, but those are unobtainium in the U.S.

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Re: What other hobbies consume your time?
« Reply #101 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 11:20:44 »
That's cool. I wish our family had anything worth inheriting. The fact that we do not is probably part of the reason I like old things so much. Now I have plenty of guns worth handing down, but doubt I'll ever have anybody to hand them to other than my nephew. lol

My dad grew up in the '50s, so I think he had a thing for cowboy-type stuff. He was also a bit cheap, so all the stuff he had was revolvers, bolt action/lever action, Taurus, and a Chinese SKS. The only quality modern gun he had was a Beretta 92FS (straight dust cover version). But he was mainly into shooting right before and during the AWB, so all the cool stuff was forbidden anyway.


That's a nice collection of Walthers and Sigs. No PPK? I want one of those some day. I almost picked up one of those P232s once. I probably should have. I see that Mishako has a video on the P5, and it looks awesome. I'll have to see it. Do you carry the LCP II at all as well? How do you like that H&R 733? I have the H&R 999 Sportsman, now that I check again.

I used to want a PPK, but I'd want a real PPK, not a PPK/S or Smith & Wesson version. The true Walthers from the '60s are pricey. I did fire one once and it was nice, but the gun has lost a bit of its allure to me. As far as practical use goes, the P232 fills the roll of a PPK for me; the ergonomics are better overall. Yes, they're big for a .380 by today's standards, but blowback .380s are very inherently accurate and nicer to shoot than modern micro guns. 

I had a full size P5 a few years ago, and I couldn't hit anything with it. It was a surplus police trade-in, so I think the barrel must have been completely shot out (I couldn't even see where I was hitting on paper). The P5 Compact is rarer and more expensive (and consequently less worn), but it is very easy to shoot accurately. It has one of the best double action triggers I've felt, like a very smooth revolver trigger. I like the looks of it a bit more, and the regular button magazine release is a plus compared to the full size.

I have carried the LCP II, but then I discovered it would partially eject the magazine during firing even after a trip back to the factory. M*Carbo sells an extra strength mag catch spring that fixed this for me, but I only just tested it a few days ago. I'm still trying to figure out how to carry this gun. I had envisioned pocket carry, but that really sucks because that pocket can't be used for anything else, and the gun still prints. I tried a belly band, but that also printed. I may just get an ankle holster for it.

The H&R 733 is not the greatest. The trigger is atrociously heavy and springy, and the sights are awful. I got it for my wife because she loves the movie Clue and also likes revolvers, but it is hard for her to shoot for the aforementioned reasons.

What's the P220 chambered in? My home defense gun is the M&P 9 with a TLR-1 HL on the rail. I haven't even seen bolt-on rails for Berettas.

My P220s are both in .45 ACP. The SAO has a steel frame and extended beaver tail, which make a big difference in handling. I can't find my Beretta rail online. The box says "G4 Ops", "Wor4TacRail", "TacRail Model B1", and "survivalconsultants.com", but none of these terms result in any hits online. It must have been some gunshow pickup, but it's very similar to this except a bit more secure (https://www.amazon.com/NcStar-Beretta-Accessory-Adapter-MADBER/dp/B0058DC520).

I would love both a PTR-91 and AUG, although I know I would be unlikely to use them for much other than drooling over. Can't go wrong with Mossberg.

The PTR-91 is cool, but, yeah, it's basically useless from a practical standpoint. The G3 pattern is just too front heavy with odd length of pull, and I've never been terribly accurate with it despite being named "Precision Target Rifle", but I also don't get to practice long range shooting very often. The AUG is much handier, but I really should get some decent optics for them and see what they can really do at distance.

I don't know much about the Bren 2 offhand, though I may have seen some videos. I should see some more. CZ puts a lot of thought into their designs, and I've got a little Czech in me.

CZ has messed with the design so many times that I'm really not sure what to get. I think the 2S with 11 inch barrel is what I would want, but I think it's discontinued. The 2MS looks just a bit off in comparison, and it's heavier for no good reason.

I never liked the aesthetics much of the 92, although it has grown on me, and some of the lines are nice, like how the front of the slide has those concave cuts on it. I like their heft, and if my 92s is any indication of the modern ones, the slides and triggers are like glass. Disassembly is cake as well. I hate those slide-mounted decockers/safeties. I think if I shot them a lot, I would get one of the Taurus clones with the old frame-mounted safety. The trigger's certainly nice enough to go DAO with though as well.

The slide decocker doesn't bother me much, but I do prefer frame mounted controls. The 92X Performance has the original frame mounted safety, but it's a bazillion dollars.
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Re: What other hobbies consume your time?
« Reply #102 on: Fri, 22 May 2020, 21:04:49 »
I recently got a Solidteknics wrought iron 12" skillet and have been working on building a really nice seasoning on it. It's surprisingly difficult. I tried flax oil and it flaked off. They recommend rice bran oil, but none of the grocery stores around here have it. I've been using canola most recently and it *seems* to be working, but I'll have to cook something that really tests it.

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Re: What other hobbies consume your time?
« Reply #103 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 17:30:12 »
I am a pretty avid science fiction and fantasy reader and I make hard cider, mead and wine at home. Nothing special, just stuff for me and my friends to drink.

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« Reply #104 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 22:54:01 »
I finally got some inline skates today. All adult sizes of everything have been sold out locally, so I had to settle for plastic frames (the only adult sized pair in town). The weather was rainy today and will be tomorrow too, so I had to stick with practicing in the garage, but I was a lot better at it than I have been in the past. Excited for a new hobby and form of exercise.

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« Reply #106 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 04:45:13 »
I am an old man but i partake in so many varied things I think most people would be pleasantly surprised. I just keep my mind occupied well into retirement so that it does not fade away. Everything from Teddy bears to AK47's! 

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« Reply #107 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 09:24:59 »
I am an old man but i partake in so many varied things I think most people would be pleasantly surprised. I just keep my mind occupied well into retirement so that it does not fade away. Everything from Teddy bears to AK47's!

I do not yet have an AK, unfortunately. Too impractical to convince myself to pick one up yet. The ergonomics, and cartridge, are far from ideal.

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Re: What other hobbies consume your time?
« Reply #108 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 12:43:50 »
I collected Hot Wheels models and Lego Bionicle.

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Re: What other hobbies consume your time?
« Reply #109 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 12:53:11 »
I collected Hot Wheels models and Lego Bionicle.

I think I still have my original Bionicle figures around somewhere, and tons of old Hot Wheels, and LEGOS ... although mostly no longer in complete sets.

That's a great sig by the way. The rest of my response was seriously mostly just an excuse to compliment it without being completely irrelevant to the thread.

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« Reply #110 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 05:19:30 »
AK I do not even fire it. It is just a must have collector piece. Desert Eagle, That is very fun. Totally impractical but just fun. The recoil makes you sure to miss anything. I know I am going from fully automatic long to revolver but just talking about useless firearms.   

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Re: What other hobbies consume your time?
« Reply #111 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 09:20:41 »
AK I do not even fire it. It is just a must have collector piece. Desert Eagle, That is very fun. Totally impractical but just fun. The recoil makes you sure to miss anything. I know I am going from fully automatic long to revolver but just talking about useless firearms.

When most people talk about AKs, they mean semi autos. Only the rich can afford a fully automatic pre-ban AK-47. I would shoot that thing every week if I had one of those. I wouldn't mind a Deagle myself. I would rather have a 10mm double stack of some kind though.

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« Reply #112 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 18:04:34 »
I got it from Russia before the price went crazy. I never knew that would happen. It is exactly because of the ban the price went crazy. You have to remember my age. Which I am not saying but I am up there. It has not been fired in so long or even taken apart I am afraid what could go wrong. If that jams I am dead.

The Eagle price went nuts my friend told me too. I think I only paid $750. I am kind of good at figuring out what is a keeper. Not just guns though, a lot of stuff. Lost huge on Beanie Babies though. That is funny I go from a deadly weapon to a Childs toy. I collect anything collectable. We are not hoarders though. Our home is very clean. Even with multiple pets present. One thing i really like is glass marbles. Some of you might have no clue about marbles. I do not mean like a kids toy. You can spend a cool Million on 1 marble! Google Sellman glass Chicago. Fountain pens, Knives... just about anything. See the thing is though I always end up buying pennies on the dollar somehow. I am not sure but I just come across deals. There is like a candy store in Elgin Illinois. It is called GAT GUNS. If anyone ever can you must see this place. I know I ramble but I think faster than I can type. I apologize for that.

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« Reply #113 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 20:13:51 »
I got it from Russia before the price went crazy. I never knew that would happen. It is exactly because of the ban the price went crazy. You have to remember my age. Which I am not saying but I am up there. It has not been fired in so long or even taken apart I am afraid what could go wrong. If that jams I am dead.

The Eagle price went nuts my friend told me too. I think I only paid $750. I am kind of good at figuring out what is a keeper. Not just guns though, a lot of stuff. Lost huge on Beanie Babies though. That is funny I go from a deadly weapon to a Childs toy. I collect anything collectable. We are not hoarders though. Our home is very clean. Even with multiple pets present. One thing i really like is glass marbles. Some of you might have no clue about marbles. I do not mean like a kids toy. You can spend a cool Million on 1 marble! Google Sellman glass Chicago. Fountain pens, Knives... just about anything. See the thing is though I always end up buying pennies on the dollar somehow. I am not sure but I just come across deals. There is like a candy store in Elgin Illinois. It is called GAT GUNS. If anyone ever can you must see this place. I know I ramble but I think faster than I can type. I apologize for that.

The Hughes Amendment of 1986 was because the $200 tax stamp, in place since the NFA of 1934 (which is unconstitutional for multiple reasons) was finally becoming affordable for everyday Americans. Our overlords couldn't let every average Joe have their constitutional rights. AKs are pretty bulletproof, pun intended. They were designed to be rugged. Very loose tolerances. Even if there were some rust here or there, I imagine it would function perfectly. They were meant to function literally caked in ice. I haven't really heard of AKs exploding at all, happens more with AR-15s, since people mess around with custom loads and mixmaster parts on those more. You would be surprised how long a good oiling lasts, especially if it is stored in a climate-controlled environment. There are 100-year-old rifles that look brand new just because they were dunked in cosmoline before they were tossed in some musty warehouse somewhere.

How long ago did you get the Deagle? I imagine a lot of that was inflation. I don't think there's much demand for them. They're more of a cool meme gun than a useful tool, like a Barrett.

Those are some cool marbles. I don't know if they're hundreds of dollars cool, but to each their own.

I haven't heard of Gat Guns. What makes them stand out? I did get my M48a from RGuns down in Illinois, when they were selling ones that looked like they just came out of the factory for $250.

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« Reply #114 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 00:02:26 »
You must go to GAT guns. Trust me. You never saw anything like it. It is like 3 floors of Bass Pro only guns! AR15 is all plastic. I do not trust it. they made it because people cannot get an AK anymore. Only reason. I am too sick to try the AK now anyways. Or I would just go do it Tomorrow. Too bad I never used it.

I think I got the Eagle in the mid 90's or something. My wife gave it to me for my birthday. I am pretty sure she paid about $750 then. Now they are more than twice that. It is a stupid gun. Unless your wrist is so strong the recoil you are sure to miss your target. I have a series 1 Glock too. I got these things when they came out, not now. Now they are a lot of money.

Marbles, hundreds? Did you look? Try hundreds of thousands! Look at the "auction". That is the big money ones. I would not pay that. Don't have it. My most expensive one is $600. Flashlights is a big thing too. I have some Surefire and 1 custom. I got in on the ground floor of the build so that was not a lot either. I am just not loaded but i like stuff :)

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« Reply #115 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 12:54:57 »
You must go to GAT guns. Trust me. You never saw anything like it. It is like 3 floors of Bass Pro only guns! AR15 is all plastic. I do not trust it. they made it because people cannot get an AK anymore. Only reason. I am too sick to try the AK now anyways. Or I would just go do it Tomorrow. Too bad I never used it.

I think I got the Eagle in the mid 90's or something. My wife gave it to me for my birthday. I am pretty sure she paid about $750 then. Now they are more than twice that. It is a stupid gun. Unless your wrist is so strong the recoil you are sure to miss your target. I have a series 1 Glock too. I got these things when they came out, not now. Now they are a lot of money.

Marbles, hundreds? Did you look? Try hundreds of thousands! Look at the "auction". That is the big money ones. I would not pay that. Don't have it. My most expensive one is $600. Flashlights is a big thing too. I have some Surefire and 1 custom. I got in on the ground floor of the build so that was not a lot either. I am just not loaded but i like stuff :)

That does sound really cool. I'll have to take a trip there, if only just to drool (I have been trying to reign in my spending lately, and keyboards are already bad enough).

The AR-15 actually predates the adoption of the M16, which was just a military adaptation from the AR-15. The AR-15 has been around since at least the late 1950s, I believe, and is basically functionally identical to its predecessor, the AR-10, which is basically the same rifle in 7.62 NATO. Their receivers are actually made entirely of CNCed aluminum. Most of the internals, especially the important parts of the action, are made of steel. The barrels are also steel. The original furniture was polymer, yes, but that has more to do with the theme of weight savings than anything of structural importance. Most modern AR-15s now have aluminum, or even carbon fiber, free-float handguards to improve repeatable precision, and there are wood furniture sets available, if you were so inclined to buy them.

In short, the parts that must be very durable are, the parts that could be a little lighter instead are. Between that and the extremely ergonomic locations of the controls, the ease of field stripping, and the high velocity, small diameter, low recoiling, flat shooting cartridge, the AR-15 is very much a high speed, low drag sort of tool (not to sound too tacticool, lol).

Without writing a book about it, the AK-47 meets its designed operating parameters well, and probably exceeds them in many categories. The AR-15 certainly does as well. The AR, however, is more easily customizable, much lighter, more ergonomic, more repeatably precise at a given range, effective at much longer ranges (compared against the original 7.62x39 chambering), can be toted with more ammunition at the same weight, and is actually much less susceptible to the ingress of debris of all sorts than the AK (which itself often leads to malfunctions in any platform), and has quicker (aimed) repeated follow-up shots.

If I needed to survive the apocalypse without ever being able to service or, especially not be able to lubricate/clean it for whatever reason, ever again, and/or needed to be able to use it in literally every extreme environment on earth, maybe I would want an AK. Otherwise, I'm AR-15 all of the way, every day.

I imagine you could still take out the AK and have some fun, the 7.62x39 cartridge is pretty girthy, with some mass, but it is still an intermediate cartridge. It certainly isn't nearly as bad as a large hunting cartridge like .30-06 in terms of recoil.

That's a fantastic birthday gift. .50 AE is no joke, but the old ones were entirely steel I believe, and not light. I imagine that helps a lot with the recoil. It can't be as bad as .500 S&W, etc, or even lighter snubby revolvers in your average magnum cartridge. With how quickly a projectile leaves the barrel, ideally, its trajectory is already set before much muzzle flip occurs. It should never be appreciable, that's for sure. The problem is that people flinch when anticipating the coming recoil of large/hot cartridges, and that causes precision problems. Glocks are still in the mid-range, although they're certainly not worth the $500 they cost, no matter how well they're engineered and manufactured. I hear Gaston Glock was going to price it at a fraction of the final retail cost but was swayed to jack up the price by the bean counters. I'm a little old school in that I like to have either a manual thumb safety (ideally) or a double action trigger. With the right practice/training, there's no detriment, and a major benefit in added safety. To each their own, especially since you seem to not worry so much about practical considerations, just collection.

Yeah, I just looked at the random offerings on their landing page. I'll look again later. I get most of my lights as surplus. It is much cheaper that way. I snatched up a lot of TLR-1s, so I'm pretty well set in that regard.

If you haven't noticed, I know a lot more about firearms than I do about keyboards.

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« Reply #116 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 15:44:35 »
You most certainly do know a lot about firearms! I am glad you posted that lesson. That was very informative. I just learned a lot. It is interesting what people know that you had no idea. I had no clue about the AR. I thought it was literally a cheap toy. I mean they are not a lot of money stock. Guy up here says he sells about 3 a day. This is the middle of nowhere. I bet GAT sells many a day. that it is probably it with the Eagle I flinch. The newer ones are indeed lighter. .50 cal is pretty big though. I mean for a Pistol. All my guns have locks in them. even though we have no little kids anymore or anything. It only takes one kind of strange accident. A series 1 Glock is not worth $500. Try 5 Grand lol. I bought it when it was $280. In the early 80's. I got my AK in the 70's. There would be no way I could buy those things now.  I can't go shoot. Unfortunately I am in bed Bro. Luckily I am not alone.

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Re: What other hobbies consume your time?
« Reply #117 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 16:34:37 »
You most certainly do know a lot about firearms! I am glad you posted that lesson. That was very informative. I just learned a lot. It is interesting what people know that you had no idea. I had no clue about the AR. I thought it was literally a cheap toy. I mean they are not a lot of money stock. Guy up here says he sells about 3 a day. This is the middle of nowhere. I bet GAT sells many a day. that it is probably it with the Eagle I flinch. The newer ones are indeed lighter. .50 cal is pretty big though. I mean for a Pistol. All my guns have locks in them. even though we have no little kids anymore or anything. It only takes one kind of strange accident. A series 1 Glock is not worth $500. Try 5 Grand lol. I bought it when it was $280. In the early 80's. I got my AK in the 70's. There would be no way I could buy those things now.  I can't go shoot. Unfortunately I am in bed Bro. Luckily I am not alone.

The reason that the AR is available at such affordable prices is that it was one of the very first firearms designed from the ground up around truly modern manufacturing processes. It has an upper and lower receiver with plenty of space between where they meet for machining, and everything is held together by pins that are relatively easy to install. The parts are cranked out by CNC or MIM, and assembly is basically like a hot swap kit keyboard in that they're like LEGOs. You can pick your parts and toss them together with no specialized tools at all other than a barrel wrench. They're also being manufactured en masse by a lot of different companies, so you've got economies of scale and no shortage of supply heaped on that. Some higher-end ARs can cost thousands, a DPMS can be had for $300 sometimes. They're all going to be relatively accurate and reliable because their manufacture is so easily repeatable and the design is quite good in almost all regards.

AKs, by contrast, even in the final design, after waffling between stamped and milled receivers, as difficulties arose, have more fiddly manufacturing. Even the stamped receivers have multiple welds involved to install the rails, the barrel needs to be press-fit, etc, and once you've got the rest of it fabricated, the whole thing still literally needs to be assembled with rivets, which takes some trial and error and good QC to do right.

That's all partly why I refer to kit keyboards interchangeably as LEGO keyboards. ARs are considered the same in that community. They're designed to just mix and match as much as possible without much work required by the user. AKs, if you even have the tools and skills to try to build one in a garage, are truly a build in every sense of the word.

I think they still make the full steel ones, but they've got some that are partially aluminum now, with lightening cuts, etc. I keep most of mine unloaded in a safe. I do keep some handy though in case of trespassers. I keep the rooms they're in locked when I'm not around.

Have Glocks already become collectors items? That's where you would know more than me. I don't have much interest in the polymer wonder 9s, though I see their utility and appreciate their engineering. I was just going off of the approximate value of a new Glock today.

You could get a semi auto AK. Quality ones are available for under $500 sometimes from Palmetto.

It had sounded like you had weathered the proverbial storm, in previous conversations. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.
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« Reply #118 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 21:44:34 »
No, I am not doing well unfortunately but i really appreciate your concern. I would have liked to have had known more about guns. i just have them because everybody does. I bought cheap ones. I had no idea they would become expensive. I really do not know why a Glock is a collector item either. I can see why they outlawed fully auto. that is a weapon of war. Last thing gangs need. There is no way to separate law abiding citizens from criminals. So only answer is to outlaw. Full auto can do huge damage. When you have to pull the trigger you have to think. Although those people have no morals anyways. It won't stop them. I just keep locks in case they get stolen. I imagine they can be defeated though. I am not afraid of intruders. No one comes here. Not even on gps. I had no idea about AR either. I had no idea it was good quality. I always saw military kids buying one. If I recover I want to get one now. I like that I can service it myself. What is the difference between a cheap and expensive one? Sorry i am clueless.