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Offline Drclick

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[IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:14:08 »
Hello everyone,

I'm a huge fan of vintage keyboards, IBM SSK is very popular in the keyboard community. I always want to make a MX compatible SSK.
Original SSK uses curved plate but MX switches always uses flat plate. Each rows need to have different angles. It also need to use a curved PCB to make it work.
I have no idea how to make it work at first. After a lot of research, I find IBM 5576 plate spring keyboard uses a very thin PCB and a curved plate.
Inspired by that, I tried different thickness of PCB. As a result, 0.6mm PCB works.
However, 0.6mm PCB can't use PCB-mount Stabs, so I use Plate-mount Stabs instead.

Here are some renders from thesiscamper:







Features:
  • 7 slope
  • QMK PCB with hot-swap
  • CNC Alu with anode and E-White
  • Color: Industrial Gray, Black, E-White
  • 84-key Winkeyless, 87-key Winkey, ANSI only
  • Unibody TOP Case and 4mm-Plate
  • Solenoid inside
  • Recommend use SA R3 or SA-like Keycaps (such as XDA, DSA)
Price:
TBD (estimate around $400)

I will update more pics when I get prototypes.
Please leave your feedback below.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:32:40 »
Wow

This is a looker for sure :eek:

Will keep updated on this, and would love to see a proto on-hand soon :thumb:
« Last Edit: Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:34:21 by Agilr »

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:35:42 »
Siiick, cant wait to see prototypes
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:45:02 »
It's time to save again.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 03:05:04 »
This is super cool. I'm lookin' forward to seeing this progress.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 03:10:54 »
9009 looking real sweet in those renders.

You should consider running a small GB for SP SA Row 3 9009 along with the keyboard. I believe MOQ for SP is only 25 for stock colors. Albeit the price would be $200-$220 at a small amount of orders but I'm sure you could find 25 or more willing participants even at that price.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 04:07:28 »
Nice. :thumb:
Looking forward to the prototype and typing test.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 04:50:20 »
Wait wait wait wait wait.
Let me get thsi straight, because I almost didn't believe it when I read the title.
This is still just using MX-styled switches, right?
You're not doing something super crazy like an buckling-sping-to-MX adapter, right?
Because, eff me, a man can dream.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 05:39:53 »
Wait wait wait wait wait.
Let me get thsi straight, because I almost didn't believe it when I read the title.
This is still just using MX-styled switches, right?
You're not doing something super crazy like an buckling-sping-to-MX adapter, right?
Because, eff me, a man can dream.

Yes!!! You can use any MX swithes you want (Cherry, Gateron, Kailh, etc.)
And you don't need use any parts from original IBM SSK.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 06:22:21 »
So sick ****! :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 08:16:10 »
With a solenoid inside for that extra thock!
I'm sold.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:13:46 »
Niiiice
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:46:27 »
Wow... this is looking real nice.  :cool:
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 14:15:55 »
I want one, please add me to the list

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 14:49:01 »
Curved 0.6mm PCB? Heck (yeah!)

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 02:52:34 »
9009 looking real sweet in those renders.

You should consider running a small GB for SP SA Row 3 9009 along with the keyboard. I believe MOQ for SP is only 25 for stock colors. Albeit the price would be $200-$220 at a small amount of orders but I'm sure you could find 25 or more willing participants even at that price.

SP SA keycaps need a long production time, maybe we can try XDA 9009?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 08:04:37 »
Nice job!  Will this be run through zfrontier?
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 08:06:54 »
If you make this I will buy it. I don't even think its an option. If this exists, I own it.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 09:02:58 »
I'm strictly a 60pct and less guy, but this does have me at least following it closely...

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 21:13:44 »
definitely interested in this

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 22:32:06 »
Looks great!


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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 06:53:03 »
Nice job!  Will this be run through zfrontier?

I haven't decided how to run this gb, but vendor will not be zfrontier. :D

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 10:58:41 »
Decided, it's only two meals per day from today till the GB date.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 11:15:51 »
i am interested
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 12 October 2019, 23:54:54 »
ne chance of a non-HS pcb?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 13 October 2019, 01:08:00 »
ne chance of a non-HS pcb?
Yes, there are. Since the PCB is just 0.6mm i got to test the hotswap as well. I have ordered a PCB prototype and i will update it here!

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 13 October 2019, 10:56:14 »
Looks great!


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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 13 October 2019, 14:34:06 »
hey drclick, looks awesome! pls make the case compatible with original SSK internals so that I can have a real case for my FSSK <3
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 14 October 2019, 00:59:37 »
hey drclick, looks awesome! pls make the case compatible with original SSK internals so that I can have a real case for my FSSK <3
Sorry,it's only compatible with MX.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 14 October 2019, 02:04:21 »
then please do another IC for the original SSK :D
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 15 October 2019, 00:22:27 »
then please do another IC for the original SSK :D
Maybe later.Now we just working on MX one

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 02:04:22 »



Got my prototype PCB today ;D

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 02:11:01 »
that f l e x h o l y  :eek:

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 12:48:30 »
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Got my prototype PCB today ;D
This looks cool.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 21:57:37 »
make the pcb transparent plz.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 22:13:02 »
Not a fan of the badge but other than that I fully support this
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 17 October 2019, 01:57:56 »
Not a fan of the badge but other than that I fully support this
+1 would look much cleaner without.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 17 October 2019, 09:17:09 »
Not a fan of the badge but other than that I fully support this
+1 would look much cleaner without.

Yeah I might have to hop on this train. It's not a deal breaker for me though. I can take it or leave it, but I do agree it would be better without.

That PCB though. That's cool. With the board being flexed and curved like that, you don't anticipate any switch contact issues?




(as a completely un-related side note... the captcha that needs to be filled out for every post on this forum is a bit much).

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 17 October 2019, 22:54:44 »
Not a fan of the badge but other than that I fully support this
+1 would look much cleaner without.

Yeah I might have to hop on this train. It's not a deal breaker for me though. I can take it or leave it, but I do agree it would be better without.

That PCB though. That's cool. With the board being flexed and curved like that, you don't anticipate any switch contact issues?




(as a completely un-related side note... the captcha that needs to be filled out for every post on this forum is a bit much).

The badge will be a PVC sticker like OG SSK, I can add more options when gb start.

Non-HS PCB should be fine but I need to test HS PCB first.

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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 17 October 2019, 23:21:28 »
Count me in  :eek:

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:32:16 »
Update some SSK badges.
Which one do you like? :D





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« Reply #41 on: Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:33:34 »
Update some SSK badges.
Which one do you like? :D
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« Reply #42 on: Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:42:39 »
Update some SSK badges.
Which one do you like? :D
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 22 October 2019, 06:20:26 »
3 on Gray / White board
5 on black board

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 22 October 2019, 10:15:56 »
3 or 5 for me as well!  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 22 October 2019, 14:01:20 »
MAO white should look great with this design.

Questions:

1. What's the connector type?

2. Are there adjustable feet like on real SSKs?

3. How does the solenoid mount?
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 01:06:26 »
MAO white should look great with this design.

Questions:

1. What's the connector type?

2. Are there adjustable feet like on real SSKs?

3. How does the solenoid mount?

1. usb type-c
2. no adjustable feet
3. It will be an extra daughter board on the bottom case to mount solenoid

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 11:30:43 »
3 on Gray / White board
5 on black board

This for me as well.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 03:19:21 »




Badge sample on my IBM SSK. :p

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« Reply #50 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 21:05:51 »
I think Im feeling it!
Its a big sucker!

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« Reply #51 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 21:42:04 »
Curved mx plate/pcb is one of the coolest things I've seen in a while.  I hope this succeeds.  Also, I wish we could get plastic instead of aluminum, but that would be a whole different project, i suppose. 

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« Reply #52 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 22:40:30 »
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Badge sample on my IBM SSK. :p

Damn that looks pretty cool, thought the logo was sus at first and I know sus, but that ain't bad :cool:


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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 23:17:28 »
Curved mx plate/pcb is one of the coolest things I've seen in a while.  I hope this succeeds.  Also, I wish we could get plastic instead of aluminum, but that would be a whole different project, i suppose.
Plastic will need a mold which is quite expensive.Need a much higher MOQ than CNCed Aluminum. If this one is a succeed project,i will consider to make a plastic one in the future :p :p :p

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« Reply #54 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 23:20:12 »
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Badge sample on my IBM SSK. :p

Damn that looks pretty cool, thought the logo was sus at first and I know sus, but that ain't bad :cool:
Yes, PVC logo could be colourful and it doesn't cost too much

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 30 October 2019, 02:53:29 »
Curved mx plate/pcb is one of the coolest things I've seen in a while.  I hope this succeeds.  Also, I wish we could get plastic instead of aluminum, but that would be a whole different project, i suppose.
Plastic will need a mold which is quite expensive.Need a much higher MOQ than CNCed Aluminum. If this one is a succeed project,i will consider to make a plastic one in the future :p :p :p

Any chance for Policarbonate case ?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 30 October 2019, 03:06:49 »
Curved mx plate/pcb is one of the coolest things I've seen in a while.  I hope this succeeds.  Also, I wish we could get plastic instead of aluminum, but that would be a whole different project, i suppose.
Plastic will need a mold which is quite expensive.Need a much higher MOQ than CNCed Aluminum. If this one is a succeed project,i will consider to make a plastic one in the future :p :p :p

Any chance for Policarbonate case ?
Need to find out about it.But i am worried about the shape change for a Polycarbonate case.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 09 November 2019, 13:24:00 »
What stabilizers will be compatible ?

I'm wondering if the new C3  pcb mount screw in stabs will work

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 17 December 2019, 01:32:13 »
If you dont put navies on this, youre a monster. Also, im in... probably. Im broke.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 17 December 2019, 09:04:00 »
Any updates for this project? I'm still very hopeful to see this come to fruition.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 17 December 2019, 13:42:13 »
Loving all of these modern takes on vintage keyboards

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 18 December 2019, 22:54:21 »
What stabilizers will be compatible ?

I'm wondering if the new C3  pcb mount screw in stabs will work
Sorry, no. We use plate mount stabilizer for this and we will give a set of stabilizer in the kit,so you don't have to buy any stabilizers for this kit.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 18 December 2019, 22:55:42 »
Any updates for this project? I'm still very hopeful to see this come to fruition.
The prototyping is taking longer than we expected. They need custom tools and it will use a 4 aixs machine. It's very complicate to CNC them so it need more time.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #63 on: Wed, 18 December 2019, 23:00:29 »
No rush.  Get it right. This project is very unique and Im looking forward to progress.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 19 December 2019, 07:56:24 »
No rush.  Get it right. This project is very unique and Im looking forward to progress.

Same sentiment from me as well. Just getting antsy waiting on news. I'll just keep on hanging out though.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #65 on: Thu, 19 December 2019, 09:40:57 »
I have missed this IC until now. I agree that it's pretty cool, and I'll keep my eye on it.

If someone could make a blue F1, F2, nav cluster, and arrow key add-on kit, that would be extra cool.
Maybe they're waiting for gasmasks and latex to get sexy again.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 11 February 2020, 12:57:59 »
Can you clarify why SA profile is recommended for this board? Is it because of the curved angle of the board, the need for tall keycaps with this shape, or both?

Would MT3 Profile work? Thought about running a KAT 9009 GB?

I don't like the way SA-profile keycaps fit on modern MX boards. Would they be more optimal for this SSK? How would my Filco R3 SA caps do?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #67 on: Tue, 11 February 2020, 15:21:48 »
Can you clarify why SA profile is recommended for this board? Is it because of the curved angle of the board, the need for tall keycaps with this shape, or both?

Would MT3 Profile work? Thought about running a KAT 9009 GB?

I don't like the way SA-profile keycaps fit on modern MX boards. Would they be more optimal for this SSK? How would my Filco R3 SA caps do?

He's recommending tall, uniform profile keycaps.  No need for sculpted rows since the plate is curved.  Any uniform profile should work well, in theory.  So yea, the R3 filco caps would be good.  KAM profile might work as well.  KAM wraith seems like a good option for this one.  MT3 is contoured/sculpted, so it might be exaggerated with the curved plate to the point of discomfort.  But no one knows for sure without testing. Hope to see an update in here one day from OP.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 11 February 2020, 20:27:18 »
Thanks, that clarifies things a lot.

I can see now why non-sculpted caps would be desired. Yeah, KAM Wraith makes sense for this one.

I bet blue or purple Filco SA would also look interesting. Although even the brown ones I have would look natural on gray.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 11 February 2020, 21:32:10 »
How do you think KAT would work out? Even those might end up being too sculpted for this.
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #70 on: Fri, 14 February 2020, 20:17:42 »
This is looking incredible. Assuming a metal badge will be standard or at least an option for this? Hope this goes well and you decide to take on another classic like the z-150 or something :)

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 16 February 2020, 13:31:06 »
Just noticed this is listed as a coming soon GB on thekey.company:
https://thekey.company/products/relic-ssk

Has this been fully prototyped yet?   Do plate mounted stabilizers work on a curved plate?  Do hotswap sockets work on a curved PCB?  So many questions :)

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #72 on: Sun, 16 February 2020, 23:47:33 »
This is up there with the coolest projects I've seen on GH yet. Definitely interested in getting one myself. Will be watching~

(also noticed that it's listed as coming soon, any news for us?  :D)

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #73 on: Tue, 18 February 2020, 21:01:50 »
Love the idea, looking forward to see the prototype man <3
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 16:49:09 »
Definitely, getting this!

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #75 on: Wed, 26 February 2020, 11:53:57 »
Interested, can't wait to see a prototype!
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #76 on: Wed, 26 February 2020, 23:19:39 »
Interested


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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 07:14:46 »
never experienced an old board, but willing to get into it with this!

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #78 on: Sat, 29 February 2020, 20:05:20 »
Super excited for this GB! :D
Any news on the prototypes?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #79 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 11:25:13 »
I'm just noticing the whole 'non-sculpted' recommendations for this one.

How do you reckon a GMK set would feel/work on this kit? I bought Darling hoping to slap it on this once if finally comes out, only to then realized that seems not to be the best route to take lol.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 08:07:54 »
Spotted new renders on The Key Company's website. Showcasing Infinikey LedZep.



https://thekey.company/collections/ledzep/products/infinikey-ledzep

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 08:19:40 »
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Got my prototype PCB today ;D

How do you plan on keeping the PCB flexed during building/installation?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 09:59:02 »
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Got my prototype PCB today ;D

How do you plan on keeping the PCB flexed during building/installation?

You can flex it using tape and a hair dryer.

https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13551&start=


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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 19:13:36 »
Any ALPS support?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 06 March 2020, 00:11:17 »
wow this looks nice. does this have an extra PCB and plate for the f row, because they look like they are on an angle.
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #85 on: Sat, 07 March 2020, 17:42:10 »
I found this keyboard on https://thekey.company/collections/upcoming-releases/products/relic-ssk and I am in love with the retro feel in a tenkeyless format.

Would these keycaps work with it?

https://drop.com/buy/gmk-triumph-adler-keycap-set#overview

What kind of cable will it use? usb-c, usb-micro, ps2?

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I registered for this site purely to keep track of this group buy so I don't miss it! Is there a better way to be notified as soon as the buy starts?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #86 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 02:49:09 »
How do you plan on keeping the PCB flexed during building/installation?
The PCB will be screwed into the top case.
When I get the prototype, I will show you how to build.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #87 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 02:54:14 »
Any ALPS support?
If enough people want an ALPS version, I will make one.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #88 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 18:03:00 »
I found this keyboard on https://thekey.company/collections/upcoming-releases/products/relic-ssk and I am in love with the retro feel in a tenkeyless format.

Would these keycaps work with it?

https://drop.com/buy/gmk-triumph-adler-keycap-set#overview

What kind of cable will it use? usb-c, usb-micro, ps2?

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I registered for this site purely to keep track of this group buy so I don't miss it! Is there a better way to be notified as soon as the buy starts?

If you look up in the thread a bit you'll see most of your questions have been answered  :D

Drclick said it will be USB-C, and the GMK keycaps should work but it's recommended to use SA or SA-like Keycaps (such as XDA, DSA).

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #89 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 21:16:38 »
I'd like one in in plastic and ISO like the original for around 200or less. 😉👍

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #90 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 09:40:37 »
Still waiting for this to happen. So excited :)
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #91 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 09:51:17 »
Would you ever run this design but in a 75% form factor if this one is successful? I think it would look really interesting with the same height but a slightly shortened width.


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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #92 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 09:25:52 »
Do you have any estimated date or month for this board ?? I'm very interested in this board. I wonder when it publish and some of notify.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #93 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 02:16:30 »
Any ALPS support?
If enough people want an ALPS version, I will make one.

Please make an Alps version!
 

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 19:12:27 »
Is there a discord channel for this project?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #95 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 13:08:06 »
very interested in this, i will keenly be watching for more info on the GB

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #96 on: Tue, 31 March 2020, 19:05:21 »
Any chance to get a non-hotswap version, and a case color that matches the original off white/beige?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #97 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 17:08:29 »
I'm in!! Any way to get notified?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #98 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 18:02:43 »
Interested in an alps version
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #99 on: Fri, 17 April 2020, 18:12:52 »
Any updates man? I'm in and hoping it gets to groupbuy soon, thekeyco keeps teasing with renders on Instagram.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #100 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 18:00:40 »
Interested. Also interested in Alps version.
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #101 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 00:58:35 »
+1 for alps

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #102 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 02:57:09 »
First of all, I really admire you. The project is very interesting and worth watching. The idea of ​​making a curved keyboard is not new, but no one has solved it yet. (in custom keyboard) I have also thought about it, the plan is to separate each Round into each pcb and plate. But doing so will make the center of the plate very sag when typing if doing the top mount. PCB mount can be partially solved but inside the case it will be relatively difficult to cnc.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #103 on: Wed, 29 April 2020, 01:13:54 »
I'm having a nightmare thinking about the PCB production, but this is serious dedication to the ibm design

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #104 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 12:50:40 »
Just came across this on the key dot co and I'm really excited for the group buy whenever that opens up.

Would the solenoid be able to be turned on and off?
Either through a key command or function in QMK or some kind of switch on the bottom or back of the case?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #105 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 18:28:43 »
Would the solenoid be able to be turned on and off?
Either through a key command or function in QMK or some kind of switch on the bottom or back of the case?

Not the runner, but the answer to that is almost certainly yes.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 12 May 2020, 00:55:00 »
Just came across this on the key dot co and I'm really excited for the group buy whenever that opens up.

Would the solenoid be able to be turned on and off?
Either through a key command or function in QMK or some kind of switch on the bottom or back of the case?
There definitely would be a toggle keymap for it. Just like the Beamspring controller has it. There's also folks who have put solenoids inside their regular MX custom cases.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #107 on: Sun, 17 May 2020, 07:23:59 »
We want this !

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #108 on: Sun, 17 May 2020, 07:24:50 »
For sure!


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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #109 on: Sun, 17 May 2020, 08:27:54 »
Beautiful! I'll be watching.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #110 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 11:41:34 »
+1 for alps

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #111 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 21:52:18 »
+1 for solenoid

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #112 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 23:06:07 »
+1 for updates.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #113 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 04:00:33 »
+1 for updates

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #114 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 10:58:23 »
Not a fan of the SSK logo, otherwise it is pretty cool.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #115 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 12:23:51 »
Updates plz


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« Reply #116 on: Sat, 20 June 2020, 02:58:19 »
No beige :(

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #117 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 06:45:01 »
Please update! I really like the aesthetic of the SSK and I will definitely buy the E-white one.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #118 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 17:48:44 »
God I just can't wait for this thing. it's so wonderful. I need it on an emotional and spiritual level.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #119 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 23:43:30 »
Yes, not having this is making me sad...der  :(

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #120 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:47:30 »
Love the look of this,

Will keep an eye out for updates.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #121 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 09:55:37 »
I wonder whether a curved PCB is going to be a problem.  Would the flex stress make it more likely to crack over time?  Could the stretch/compression of the traces be a problem long-term?

Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #122 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 23:26:03 »
Very nice, definitely interested?  Will the GB be unlimited? Thank you.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #123 on: Sun, 05 July 2020, 03:02:07 »
Came to see if there were any updates, but I would like to add my vote to the beige request. I'd like to just go all-in for the retro look if I got one.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #124 on: Tue, 14 July 2020, 03:26:32 »
Is this still in work?
No update for months seems like drclick has gave up this gb.
« Last Edit: Tue, 14 July 2020, 03:28:31 by manaorme »

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« Reply #125 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 09:43:07 »
Bump for updates. Any way a mod can ask what's up? Don't want to be disappointed! :)

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #126 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:37:19 »
Intriguing. However, as I would use this in a Windows/Mac/Linux environment, a WKL only kills it for me.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #127 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:52:54 »
Intriguing. However, as I would use this in a Windows/Mac/Linux environment, a WKL only kills it for me.

It's QMK compatible, just reprogram to literally anything else lol.